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Seriously, I played (& beaten) these games and I personally thought they were.....alright. Pandora succked, Xenoblade was ok, and Last Story was kinda cool. I'd probably rent these games in the US . :p
Seriously, I played (& beaten) these games and I personally thought they were.....alright. Pandora succked, Xenoblade was ok, and Last Story was kinda cool. I'd probably rent these games in the US . :p
Well, I pre-ordered my limited edition well over a month ago, so that's +1 for the performance of the game here in Europe. Let's hope I'm not the only one, so you guys can also enjoy this little gem.
@Epic-Kx That Pandora's Tower sucked, I can understand. Always looked pretty sub-par to me. Loved the time I put in Xenoblade however, one of the more impressive JRPGs of this generation if you ask me. The Last Story... doesn't appeal to me, but does look pretty solid. What were your major gripes with the last two titles though?
Well then, since Epic-Kx's opinion is the same as the rest of the worlds', there's no reason to bring these over. Glad we settled that...
@Freek
Pandora was sub-par. Didn't have any personality that the other two had (and probably because I was tired when I was playing it). Xenoblade, I approached it as something to do with Xenosaga. The universe is really cool, & it plays quite well. Last Story was the best of the three. An amazing story from start to finish.
I do wish that Earth Seeker gets localized by XSEED. THAT one, looks so fucking buttery.
I dunno, I might write a blog about my experiences with it.
Pandora was sub-par. Didn't have any personality that the other two had (and probably because I was tired when I was playing it). Xenoblade, I approached it as something to do with Xenosaga. The universe is really cool, & it plays quite well. Last Story was the best of the three. An amazing story from start to finish.
I do wish that Earth Seeker gets localized by XSEED. THAT one, looks so fucking buttery.
I dunno, I might write a blog about my experiences with it.
@Insanity
Woahwoahwoah, I didn't enforce my opinion. Not sure if trolling me, or if that's what people actually think of the game.
Woahwoahwoah, I didn't enforce my opinion. Not sure if trolling me, or if that's what people actually think of the game.
@fmaguy
Jim's in the Midwestern region (THE BEST ONE. WE MAEK YO FOOD, BITCH!) So, you're like two hours behind him, meng.
Jim's in the Midwestern region (THE BEST ONE. WE MAEK YO FOOD, BITCH!) So, you're like two hours behind him, meng.
@Epic-Kx
Hmm, yeah, I've never really played Xenosaga or -Gears, so that might work in my advantage here.
Also, a huge amount of kudos to you, sir, for mentioning Earth Seeker. Just played the Japanese version a bit and, by god, is that game awesome. ^^
Hmm, yeah, I've never really played Xenosaga or -Gears, so that might work in my advantage here.
Also, a huge amount of kudos to you, sir, for mentioning Earth Seeker. Just played the Japanese version a bit and, by god, is that game awesome. ^^
Nintendo is innovating by not having a number of worthwhile games to play this year. They will be watching your disappointment closely to see if any business opportunities are there. They seriously have nothing to lose when it comes to releasing games like this to America. (Release Mother 3). If they are really that worried about losing money they could just release the games in limited runs like ATLUS.
Last time he said that, it was for Disaster: Day of Crisis - a game which even Nintendo UK/Europe sent out to die quietly. In other words, don't get your hopes up, Americans. This is just something Reggie says to seem considerate when he has no plans of actually making the effort to support fans.
I'm watching my neighbour getting undressed 'very closely'. Doesn't mean I'm going to do anything about it.
I see your proposal sir and offer you a counter proposal ..... release the game because its the right thing to do to show your good will towards supporting core gamers.... and I will buy last story and Xenoblade.
Continue to limpwristedly skirt around a possible release if we your CUSTOMERS prove that we really really really want and deserve them and are willing to let blood at the all holy alter of Nintendo for the privilege ...... and if I buy them I will buy them used to out of principal.
Do not release them and say goodbye to the possibility of me EVER buying a WiiU and if I do ever get around to buying a 3DS (think infinite space 2) I will be buying your hardware second hand.
Continue to limpwristedly skirt around a possible release if we your CUSTOMERS prove that we really really really want and deserve them and are willing to let blood at the all holy alter of Nintendo for the privilege ...... and if I buy them I will buy them used to out of principal.
Do not release them and say goodbye to the possibility of me EVER buying a WiiU and if I do ever get around to buying a 3DS (think infinite space 2) I will be buying your hardware second hand.
...... "great data". ..."business oppourtunities" "consumer uptake"
Reggie seems to not really care about giving fans what we want, but getting money from us.
Reggie seems to not really care about giving fans what we want, but getting money from us.
Europe tends to buy these things in bigger numbers than America does so if Reggie's looking to Europe, your yanks may be in for some good news.
I think it's ridiculous though that NoA needs to wait to see 'if' "business opportunities" arise. As if the fan support wasn't enough already. Clearly these games would make a profit. Perhaps not if Nintendo ship in millions and millions of units expecting record sales (as I fear they are hoping for), but so long as they're sensible about it there's no reason why a game like Xenoblade couldn't make them a tidy bundle.
I think it's ridiculous though that NoA needs to wait to see 'if' "business opportunities" arise. As if the fan support wasn't enough already. Clearly these games would make a profit. Perhaps not if Nintendo ship in millions and millions of units expecting record sales (as I fear they are hoping for), but so long as they're sensible about it there's no reason why a game like Xenoblade couldn't make them a tidy bundle.
With the new LetterBomb software hack for Wii, I've discontinued my caring.
Gonna hack my Wii tonight and order all the missing Wii goodness from Europe. They're probably not the second coming of Jesus, but still hard to beat compared to the most recent uses of my Wii.. the most recent being MARIO FUCKING GALAXY!
Really want Last Story though. The others can fuck right off as long as I can get Last Story.
Gonna hack my Wii tonight and order all the missing Wii goodness from Europe. They're probably not the second coming of Jesus, but still hard to beat compared to the most recent uses of my Wii.. the most recent being MARIO FUCKING GALAXY!
Really want Last Story though. The others can fuck right off as long as I can get Last Story.
All I can say is that I really hope that the long term cost of not releasing these games is worth it.
Certainly if there are Customer opportunities and positive Nintendo uptake from some of those titles, that will be great data for us to consider as we look at what to do with future Nintendo loyalty.
Certainly if there are Customer opportunities and positive Nintendo uptake from some of those titles, that will be great data for us to consider as we look at what to do with future Nintendo loyalty.
I hope all three make it at some point as they all look pretty great to me. If nothing else the publicity should hopefully get Pandora's Tower(smaller game) a fan translation like Fatal Frame 4
"Reggie.... you are making Nintendo sound greedy.... I suggest you stop now."
A business not wanting to lose money on something. Wow, how greedy can they get? For all the people who say they want these games, I bet that if they all came out, none of them would even sell over 250,000 in North America. A couple of them would probably struggle to sell 100,000. So people just like to hear themselves complain!
A business not wanting to lose money on something. Wow, how greedy can they get? For all the people who say they want these games, I bet that if they all came out, none of them would even sell over 250,000 in North America. A couple of them would probably struggle to sell 100,000. So people just like to hear themselves complain!
I find it odd that Nintendo seems hell bent on completely ignoring an outpouring by fans to release these games in the US, especially considering they have already translated and localized it for Europe. The cost of producing physical disks can't be that significant.
This may just be me being a fanboy, but I wish they were more like the folks over at Atlus or Nippon Ichi, who are willing to take a chance on bringing quirky titles out in the US, and who understand that there is a niche market that will buy these games.
This may just be me being a fanboy, but I wish they were more like the folks over at Atlus or Nippon Ichi, who are willing to take a chance on bringing quirky titles out in the US, and who understand that there is a niche market that will buy these games.
@Lucky Pierre:
I don't. Their data suggests that these games will not turn enough of a profit to justify selling it here. You being a fanboy by your own admission suggests of myopia. Atlus and NIS don't work the same way as Nintendo does, and they're more willing to take risks than Nintendo is, even though they're smaller. Nintendo of America wasn't built that way. Deal with it.
I don't. Their data suggests that these games will not turn enough of a profit to justify selling it here. You being a fanboy by your own admission suggests of myopia. Atlus and NIS don't work the same way as Nintendo does, and they're more willing to take risks than Nintendo is, even though they're smaller. Nintendo of America wasn't built that way. Deal with it.
@PEICanada7
I don't expect these games to sell like gangbusters I do however at the least expect them to turn a profit. It might not be anything record breaking it might be just a little over breaking even but there will be a profit involved.
At a point where nintendo could use all the credit they can get with the "hardcore/core gamers", you know the gamers who could rally around the WiiU and the 3DS and make them both a huge success. They choose instead to dismiss them.....after going on some apparent bullcrap schpeel about trying to win them back....
These are the same gamers who when the WiiU comes out are going to look at it and potentially be in a position to write it off as another Wii (see: going to collect dust and have few worthwhile games)and continue walking right over to the PS4 or the 720.
It all boils down to how NOA wants its customers to remember it when it launches its new platforms?
The company who goes the extra mile to support its core gamers like it says it will. Or the company that dicks us around and brings us little more than shovelware (No first party Nin titles are not shovelware but a majority of the software on the Wii is) when they could bring us quality games?
I can say I'm done, I will never be an early adopter of Nintendo hardware again in the future and if (really big if) I ever purchase a Nintendo home console again it will be at its end of life (you know when they launch the new zelda, again Huge freaking IF).
I don't expect these games to sell like gangbusters I do however at the least expect them to turn a profit. It might not be anything record breaking it might be just a little over breaking even but there will be a profit involved.
At a point where nintendo could use all the credit they can get with the "hardcore/core gamers", you know the gamers who could rally around the WiiU and the 3DS and make them both a huge success. They choose instead to dismiss them.....after going on some apparent bullcrap schpeel about trying to win them back....
These are the same gamers who when the WiiU comes out are going to look at it and potentially be in a position to write it off as another Wii (see: going to collect dust and have few worthwhile games)and continue walking right over to the PS4 or the 720.
It all boils down to how NOA wants its customers to remember it when it launches its new platforms?
The company who goes the extra mile to support its core gamers like it says it will. Or the company that dicks us around and brings us little more than shovelware (No first party Nin titles are not shovelware but a majority of the software on the Wii is) when they could bring us quality games?
I can say I'm done, I will never be an early adopter of Nintendo hardware again in the future and if (really big if) I ever purchase a Nintendo home console again it will be at its end of life (you know when they launch the new zelda, again Huge freaking IF).
Sure, Nintendo...gauge the sales in Europe to see if it can sell in North America...because Europe and NA are SOOOOOO the fucking same.
I have the feeling the 3 games will be in the first run of titles for the WiiU. They've done this before, you know...No Mother/Earthbound for NES even if it was done just to put it on the SNES.
I have the feeling the 3 games will be in the first run of titles for the WiiU. They've done this before, you know...No Mother/Earthbound for NES even if it was done just to put it on the SNES.
Fuck you Reggie!
Have you ever thought of using your massive influence in the world of video games to contact the MeatMaster himself and set him straight?
The Xenoblade/The Last Story situation is by far the worst thing Nintendo has done in the last 5 years.
Have you ever thought of using your massive influence in the world of video games to contact the MeatMaster himself and set him straight?
The Xenoblade/The Last Story situation is by far the worst thing Nintendo has done in the last 5 years.
@JetSetRadioForever
If they launch them as WiiU titles .... they might as well have not launched them at all as far as I am personally concerned. I might be able to stomach a copout dual Wii/WiiU launch like they pulled with twilight princess, if they came out right now and said that was their plan (tho several months ago would have been much better) .... I'm just so tired of the same old Nintendo schtick.
If they launch them as WiiU titles .... they might as well have not launched them at all as far as I am personally concerned. I might be able to stomach a copout dual Wii/WiiU launch like they pulled with twilight princess, if they came out right now and said that was their plan (tho several months ago would have been much better) .... I'm just so tired of the same old Nintendo schtick.
After seeing Epic-Kx's post I really really don't care anymore.
It would be pretty ironic that so many people wasted their time asking for mediocre games.
It would be pretty ironic that so many people wasted their time asking for mediocre games.
Yeah I'm not holding my breath. I would love to see these game brought to the US, but after getting burned by Nintendo in the pass, I just don't care anymore.
"Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime..."
What? No meat reference?
"...like the cruel little sausage that he is."
That's better.
What? No meat reference?
"...like the cruel little sausage that he is."
That's better.
Funny story, yesterday my girlfriend asked me when a new game was coming out for the wii because she misses watching me play them and she liked some of them too. How they can sit on these games while the system moulders is beyond me. You would think they would be more aggressive give the 3DS news.
Reggie said this for the last 8 wii game they never released in America. He's just saying no without saying no.
i think the best course of action is to round up an angry mob, go to Nintendo of America and force them to release these Wii games...and well we are at it, we should get Mother 3 released in America too. that is the only way i think America will have get Mother 3. it must be done for the greater good!
@Xander Markham
"Last time he said that, it was for Disaster: Day of Crisis - a game which even Nintendo UK/Europe sent out to die quietly. In other words, don't get your hopes up, Americans. This is just something Reggie says to seem considerate when he has no plans of actually making the effort to support fans."
These are the facts, folks. Too bad, really. Seems like a jerk move to say "Well, maybe!..." When in reality, this totally isn't going to happen.
In the meantime, Rhythm Heaven Wii, I await you.
"Last time he said that, it was for Disaster: Day of Crisis - a game which even Nintendo UK/Europe sent out to die quietly. In other words, don't get your hopes up, Americans. This is just something Reggie says to seem considerate when he has no plans of actually making the effort to support fans."
These are the facts, folks. Too bad, really. Seems like a jerk move to say "Well, maybe!..." When in reality, this totally isn't going to happen.
In the meantime, Rhythm Heaven Wii, I await you.
Business opportunity? Nintendo, how about coming up with an excuse that you know, kind of makes sense!
So noticeable fan support and a platform suffering through one of the worst software droughts isn't enough of an opportunity to release XenoBlade, a game that's already localized ? If that's not an perfect opportunity, then I don't know what is. No ones even asking you to market this game! Where's the harm in releasing a limited shipment ? Are you worried it would sell out and you'd have to go through the trouble of sending a 2nd shipment ?
A bit of advice, Nintendo. If this kind of crap is going to happen on Wii U (practically guarenteed), then perhaps you better not region lock the console because youre customers shouldn't have to jump through hoops like this.
So noticeable fan support and a platform suffering through one of the worst software droughts isn't enough of an opportunity to release XenoBlade, a game that's already localized ? If that's not an perfect opportunity, then I don't know what is. No ones even asking you to market this game! Where's the harm in releasing a limited shipment ? Are you worried it would sell out and you'd have to go through the trouble of sending a 2nd shipment ?
A bit of advice, Nintendo. If this kind of crap is going to happen on Wii U (practically guarenteed), then perhaps you better not region lock the console because youre customers shouldn't have to jump through hoops like this.
@Sebastian Matthews
From what I remember of the sales comparisons graphic that was posted a while back, the US bought more of the "borderline" Wii games (like No More Heroes, Muramasa, etc) than Europe, with Japan generally buying the least of the three regions.
From what I remember of the sales comparisons graphic that was posted a while back, the US bought more of the "borderline" Wii games (like No More Heroes, Muramasa, etc) than Europe, with Japan generally buying the least of the three regions.
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