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Nintendo of America needs to STFU photo

Over the past few weeks, I have written harsh criticisms of the way Sony and Microsoft conduct themselves, calling them out on a variety of problems and attitudes. One thing I have attempted to make clear is that I do not hate the systems they have made. I have problems with the companies behind the PS3 and the Xbox 360, certainly, but I love the consoles themselves.

The Wii is a slightly different matter. I had a Wii, once. I don't anymore. I sold mine for a tidy profit before I left Europe for the United States, but so far I have not considered an NTSC Wii to be a worthy investment. Unlike the 360 and the PS3, I have no real love for the Wii. I barely consider it a game system. At least, it's certainly not a system intended for someone like me. It could have been. In fact, it could have been a system for everybody, but it's very clear that's not the way Nintendo, especially Nintendo of America, is headed. 

Yet Nintendo keeps talking like it is, and I really wish it wouldn't. The smug, passive-aggressive comments about the game industry and the almost gleeful dangling of carrots has become quite ridiculous. Nintendo is a man telling you he's your friend while he's steadily kicking you in the groin. For that, Nintendo definitely needs to STFU.

The final nail should have been E3 2008. That was the day Nintendo of America showed its true colors. A huge room full of gamers, and Nintendo stood there, boasted about how rich it was, spent an hour simpering and smirking, then unleashed the embarrassing horror of Wii Music upon the land.

While a man called Ravi Drums had some sort of seizure onstage, a once proud and legendary game designer held a Wiimote like a penis to his mouth and tried to convince us he was playing the saxophone. Then a group of clearly mentally impaired adults attempted to make a decent tune, which became a cacophony, a blasphemous rape of the Mario Bros. theme tune that had become an icon to many true gamers. That's what Nintendo did. Nintendo thinks this is high quality entertainment.

For me, it demonstrated that Nintendo did not consider itself a part of the game industry. That's not something I'm angry or bitter over. I personally have never had any real loyalty to Nintendo so I don't feel "hurt" or "betrayed" or anything similarly melodramatic. What annoys me isn't the fact that Nintendo "abandoned" the "hardcore gamer." It's the fact that Nintendo keeps pretending it hasn't.

E3 08 showed that Nintendo of America is pretty much ashamed of its own roots. During its press conference, NoA saw fit to show us such titles as Animal Crossing, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Music, and some shitty snowboarding game. Easy stuff. Safe stuff. What some call "casual" stuff. If it wasn't cute, instantly accessible, and ran some perceived risk of scaring off the mainstream crowd, however small, then Nintendo didn't want anything to do with it. That Wii Music was Nintendo's grand reveal, while Pikmin 3 was announced quietly to a handful of journalists the next day, typifies Nintendo's attitude: Keep the "embarrassing" stuff behind closed doors to make sure the mainstream crowd doesn't see it, lest they get frightened and run away. 

Reggie Fils-Aime seems to be the one who enjoys stringing what he calls "core gamers" along the most. When he addressed the negative response to E3 08, he smugly declared that he could not understand why people were disappointed. His attitude perfectly encapsulates Nintendo's philosophy when he said this one statement: "How could you feel left out? The Animal Crossing that we've been hearing about that people wanted, fully connected to the Internet, go to other people's towns."

Yeah ... Animal Crossing was Reggie's answer to a new Legend of Zelda or Mario. According to Fils-Aime, a boring game where animals warble insane crap at each other like, "I think pasta is tasty, let's go to a rock concert," is a game we should be grateful for. That's part of the root of my problem with Nintendo right now, the belief that its longest-serving consumers should be thankful for the few scraps that get tossed their way, as if they couldn't get a more fulfilling experience anywhere else. 

Ever since it crawled itself out of third place last generation, Nintendo has swiftly adopted a sneering, condescending attitude toward the rest of the industry and the game-loving public. Fils-Aime is certainly the biggest outlet for that, consistently laughing at gamers with patronizing statements like "the core gamer is insatiable." He seems to enjoy the bait-and-switch that Nintendo pulls, where it appeals to hardcore gamers for one day out of 364, gives them the occasional treat, then ignores them again. 

At this point, you may say to me, "But Jim, E3 09 was the shit, son! They had Metroid. Think of the METROID!" Again, however, this merely proves my point. After the disaster of E3 08, a press conference so bad that even mainstream outlets like Yahoo came away disappointed, Nintendo had to do something. So it did what Nintendo does best: It threw a few bones, put up some smoke and mirrors, then sat back and basked in the jizz of naive Nintendo loyalists who screamed, "Nintendo is BACK," or "Nintendo has redeemed itself!" People are so quick to forget Nintendo's bullshit, and so quick to claim REDEMPTION at every turn. Nintendo played them like a Hammond organ, and it worked like a charm. How many more "redemption" moments will Nintendo have before this generation is out?

A new Metroid, Mario and the teased new Zelda (Pikmin 3 appears to have been forgotten by this point) do not exactly make for a killer lineup, especially considering the fact that it's been a year since E3 08. Yet Nintendo fans will justify the company's attitude by actually being grateful for it. As if Nintendo has done an amazing thing. Really, Nintendo has done what it's always done: Made a big show of being "sorry" for its arrogance, tossed a mere handful of interesting videogames our way, then gone back to its usual embrace of soccer moms and grandmothers. The fact that Nintendo fans lap that shit up like starving dogs is kind of pathetic, really. 

Its executives say things like, "Only geeks and otakus want a hard-drive on their Wii," but if it announces just one Zelda game, all is forgiven, like an abusive husband who kicked the shit out of his wife one night, then comes home with cheap flowers the next. Nintendo of America has adequately demonstrated its contempt for the "core" gamer, and does very little but patronize and mock, yet it still sticks around for no good reason whatsoever. 

It's the half-measures that irk me more than anything else. If Nintendo wants to be an arrogant, condescending shit, then that's fine. That's fantastic, in fact. However, it never wants to go all the way. It should have abandoned events like E3 long, long ago, but it sticks around, possibly because it knows nobody stands on top of the industry forever and it'll need loyalty from the people it's currently laughing at one day. Maybe it's simply because it realizes it can still make plenty of money out of a demographic it's shown public disdain for. Not many companies can laugh in the face of its consumers on a public stage and still command their loyalty. That would make you feel like some sort of God.

Whatever the reason, I hate that Nintendo sticks around, tossing down chicken feed with one hand and smacking people around with the other. Nintendo of America ought to have the balls to go the whole way with its attitude. Shit or get off the lavvy. Not act like the two-faced bitch it's currently being. 

That's not a criticism of the Wii, I hasten to add. The Wii just is what it is. It's neither good nor evil, merely shaped by good or evil hands. I don't have an issue with the Wii's wasted potential, I just wish Nintendo would keep it on shows like Chelsea Lately where it belongs. That's Nintendo's core audience now. Still pretending that's not the case is just adding insult to, well, insult. 

Oh but wait, there's another Mario game! All is forgiven!


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Count Grishnack's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:02
Count Grishnack
Over/Under on comments: 100.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:02
Magesx
THE WII ISN'T FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU'D EAT IT DOHOHOHOHOHO
Zcdrike's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:07
Zcdrike
I could try and point you to dozens of quality titles for the Wii, or counter-point all of your arguments, but since we all know that would be a waste of time I'll just say I respectfully disagree with you.
Havoc Fang's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:10
Havoc Fang
I had a Wii. For a week.

Everything I was going to say in this comment is summed up by the spousal abuse metaphor.
Catmurderer's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:10
Catmurderer
ANTI SONY BS WTF
drgonzo666's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:11
drgonzo666
you should go back to europe
pixelpunx's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:12
pixelpunx
That video was pretty embarrassing to watch.
Death by Yeti's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:13
Death by Yeti
and...
GO!
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:14
Wedge
BUT JIM SAMURAI WARRIORS 3 IS COMING OUT FOR WII. HOW CAN YOU NOT WANT ONE?
BGFUSAB's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:15
BGFUSAB
I kind of have to agree. I suppose I would consider myself a core gamer, whatever that means. I play mostly RPGs of any form except MMOs (because when I play those I play them too much), and Nintendo hasn't done anything for me recently. Nor do I expect them to, but they certainly act like they ARE doing something for me. There's no doubt that Mario, Zelda, and Metroid are all great franchises which I have enjoyed at one point in time bu those three franchises alone are not enough to legitimate my buying of a Wii.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy the Wii exists and Nintendo is doing what they're doing. They are expanding the game market and while they may skew more towards casual players, I don't think it is unreasonable to think that people brought into casual gaming might one day start to check out some of those game aimed at the more traditional gamer, which is ultimately a good thing. But Jim's right, Nintendo needs to stop pretending that it is doing a lot for all types of gamers, they aren't. I'm not sure if I would care it core gamers or not, and I wouldn't say you can't be a core gamer and choose the Wii as your system of choice but the bottom line is that Nintendo has consistently failed to provide a product that appeals to some segments of the gaming population like myself and they need to stop getting indignant when we say the Wii isn't interesting to us and telling us something is on the way.

I don't really care what's on the way, I'm not buying your product until there is something interesting I can do with it right now.
DoubleDragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:15
DoubleDragon
Ignorant, meaningless editorial chocked full of more prolix and obfuscation than actual points. You make much ado about nothing.

E3 2008 sucked. No shit. Everyone knows that. Get over it.

I've never seen so many words say so little. Condescending? How? Because Wii Music and Animal Crossing bombed? That's not condescending, that's just dumb.

It's funny how I could use the exact same arguments you make about Microsoft. One Halo and Call of Duty after another and everyone is happy. 2009 is the year of sequels. Period. It doesn't matter what platform you choose. Not every Holiday can be spectacular. Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros. came out in the first half of the year with Animal Crossing, Wii Music and WarioLand left to pick up the slack. It didn't work too well.

It's not like we've never seen this before. What did 2004 have? Metroid Prime 2 and Zelda: Four Swords? I think that's it.

Nintendo experiments and tries to give you great games and you shit on them for their attempted inventions. Some will be successful (Wii Sports, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit), some won't (Wii Music), but at least the company is TRYING.

I have to question any writer who attacks yet another Metroid, Mario and Zelda title but doesn't attack yet another Call of Duty and Halo. Way to go hypocrisy.
peachboy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:18
peachboy
i laughed fairly hard, however extreme your opinion may be.
Anus Mcphanus's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:20
Anus Mcphanus
One thing that I think gamers should appreciate when it comes to Nintendo is the mere existence of Punch Out (wii). That was a franchise that Nintendo didn't need to revisit but the hardcore gamers called out for it after E3 08 and they got it.
PEICanada7's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:20
PEICanada7
Has this little tangent been brewing inside you since E3 Jim? I don't get where this big rant is coming from? Nintendo really hasn't said anything good or bad lately, so why would we care why you haven't bought another Wii? Well either way I hope you feel better now, because of course that's all that really matter right?
ALT's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:21
ALT
Eh. I'd be al fired up with you in 2008, but we are way past that.

Not really sure why you are more bothered by Nintendo's shitty marketing teams and bastard executive appearances than the squandering of what could have been one of the best system out there, but hey sure, pull out that dusty axe and grind away.

Now that the grinding has begun, I have to add that I haven't bought a single wii game since Mario Kart, and I'm not sure I can find anything that I've 'missed.'

That said, I'm pretty stoked about Muramasa next month.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:25
Super Drybones
I have to agree with DoubleDragon on the last point, everyone made a huge thing that Mario Galaxy 2 look like Mario Galaxy 1, but haven't every single Halo game(except the RTS, because of genre) looked the same. And no one complains.
slayerofpanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:26
slayerofpanda
Ok this article is exactly what i think of Nintendo, I couldn't have said it better.

Had my wii for a year then got rid of it and got a ps3 with the money i got for the wii plus games...never looked back.
Sukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:27
Sukes
...I love the Wii, I only play it when I have nothing else to play but that's because I can play tanks on Wii Play over and over again. Whenever a good game like RE or Zelda comes out that appeals to me, then yes I'll buy it. It sounds like Jim is just saying that Nintendo should be a little more honest and straightforward and tell people, "Were still here to give you what you want...its just that we would rather make WiiMusic First and then we will get to your game." Its like being dragged along hoping for the best, and when it does your happy, sorta like HalfLife2 Ep.3...
Christophart's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:28
Christophart
Nintendo's next marketing campaign will be "WERE COMING BACK TO THE HARDCORE" (for their next console) i bet you....
buri3's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:28
buri3
the funny thing is, not even nintendo cares about metroid and i certainly don't think they're capable of making a metroid game anymore, that's why metroid has been farmed out to better more "game-centric" dev companies like team ninja or retro studios, companies with a direction for games, not just products.

That's what's happened to nintendo, i held my gamecube and Ps2 as a winning combo meerly because the games nintendo was putting out were still ok, but now they're just releasing a product, it's a well oiled machine of casual Q&A and dev farms who now don't even need to make models since all they have to use are the mii's we put together ourselves. MAX money for minimal effort.
Dark Kensou's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:29
Dark Kensou
What a useless post. I guess just like any other post from Jim. He seems to think Dtoid is a personal blog where he can rant how he wishes.
Maybe his job is not to write articles... maybe it's just to get people reading his shit and then infuriating them enough to put comments on top of his garbage. If his job was to write proper, thoughtful articles, he'd be unemployed already.
Unicorn's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:29
Unicorn
@DoubleDragon

MGS: TwinSnakes
Tales of Symphonia
Pikmin 2
Paper Mario:TYD
also came out in 2004.
Nic128's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:30
Nic128
True about the company. But gimme ONE good game, and I'm satisfied and screams redemption. Yup, just like you described.
Jaxyl's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:31
Jaxyl
At DD

While I agree with you, his lack of attacks on Halo or CoD have less to do with hypocracy and more to do with the theme of the article. It wouldn't do to point out Halo or COD releases in an artie about Nintendo.

Though I have to agree that this article s little more then wasted space from someone who acts entitled to having his ass wiped. While there is a valid point to be made that NoA focus too much on casual (especially since there are great non-casual games from NoJ), but to focus on a company's supposed attitude toward core gamers and said gamer's response when something they like is announced? That's like writing an article about a boyfrind who only focuses some of his time on his girlfriend and not all of his time, then bitching about how inconsiderate he is. So congrats Jim, you're writing like you belong in that Seventeen mag.
zombielifecoach's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:31
zombielifecoach
@ Zcdrike "quality titles for the Wii" ...
That's something you don't hear every day *ahem*

As a Wii owner, I believe that it is only possible to compare the quality of Wii games to OTHER Wii games. Its like being in a room full of ugly women and saying that the girl with the unibrow and MOST of her teeth is hotter than the girl with a cleft palate and a wooden eye. If flailing your gimmicky little nunchakas around and balance-boarding your days away is your thing than the Wii is the way to go. But there should be NO denying that Nintendo's Uber-system isn't even remotely on par with its competition when it comes to quality of games overall.
ZenGaijin's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:32
ZenGaijin
The thing that keeps me owning my wii are the classic titles I can remember fond memories of myself playing the games as a younger lad.

Out of the current titles on Wii Super Mario Galaxy was that last one that really blew me away with how quality that game is. Though when playing it I just cept remembering older times I've had with Mario. Partially because the game threw flashback enemies and items at you at every turn as if to say "Hey remember back in Mario 3 where we had the Giant Goomba's in giant world? Those were good times right?". I finished the game collected all the stars and never touched it again. Why? Challenge as great as an experience as that game was it can never recapture the magic of the old 2D games were even though the enemies were in the same place everytime you felt like you would get a different experience each time you played it. And that every time you started the game that ol'challenge would be right there staring you in the face.

To me Nintendo is like celeb thats desperately clinging to that last ounce of spotlight.
peachboy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:32
peachboy
also, more or less what ALT said.

i've traded away any of the wii games i have purchased now except for the four titles i actually enjoyed. though i'm not really a big motion sensor enthusiast, the options now exist (however good/bad), for both xbox and ps3.

all i can safely say is that all nintendo really has going for it is the faint glimmer of indie games on wiiware and a few dusty old IPs which i think we're all getting tired of, however unfortunate that may be with regards to nostalgia.
TheCleaningGuy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:32
TheCleaningGuy
I'll be interested to hear Jonathan Holmes' take on this article, but in the meantime, I'm going to get a huge umbrella.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:33
DaedHead8
Oh boy, the Fanboys are out in full force today.
killboy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:33
killboy
I think whatever Jim thinks
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:33
Elsa
Now if they take Animal Crossing... and give us weapons and the abilities to invade and take over someone else's town...
:)
Megabuster's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:33
Megabuster
Jim is right on with this one. If you're calling him extreme, it's only your inner antagonist doing it. Just because you can name a couple games that would satisfy the "hard-core" doesn't mean that Nintendo isn't pissing on the industry that brought it where it is. It's not just about releases, it's about focus. They don't care about our demographic, yet they pretend like they're servicing us in our beds every night. Sony/Microsoft are directing their attention to us. They have their casual market there as well, attempting to draw in new people, but they aren't overlooking the people that are already there. Like Jim said, it's not the way they're acting, it's the fact that they don't have the guts to just admit it.
buri3's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:33
buri3
@ zombielifecoach

I agree, we should also stop comparing direct to DVD movies to other full release movies, because the only reason that the D-to-DVD movies suck so much is because we compare them to their better more well-made counterparts, that's why uwe boll sucks so much, it's just because we compare his movies to other non-uwe boll films.

I love how if this was an anti-sony or MS rant ALL of these posts would be pro jim sterling for speaking the "truth"
possumwrangler's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:35
possumwrangler
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but all of the video game developers/manufacturers/publishers stick it to the consumer. As soon as the industry became mainstream enough to be able to make profits without having to give a shit about the consumer, they stopped trying. This shows up as the pushing of shoddy hardware (M$), a lack of major titles that gamers are clamouring for (Sony and Nintendo), or the flood of garbage titles/rehashed sequels from major developers/publishers (EA, UBISOFT, ACTIVISION...). Except for Atlus. Atlus is the last bastion of consumer friendliness.

Of all of these, Nintendo seems to be faring the best at least in terms of overall popularity, so it doesn't seem reasonable to single them out when arguably, they're doing the best job of appealing to consumers.
TheNine's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:36
TheNine
*Facepalm*

Look everybody.
Another dime-a-dozen editorial/blog coming from a guy who apparently feels threatened or is completely out of touch with the reality of the wii.

Expanding an audience =/= abandoning another, and it's pretty mind boggling how we see the consoles current and future lineup constantly overlooked by "gamers" like this. This whole trend is so sad, and the people behind it remain almost unbelievably clueless.

0/10
Dreamsower's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:36
Dreamsower
Hehe, the pond surface was too still today so Jim threw in a big rock I love it. Rabble rabble rabble, emotions, arguing.

The last game I bought for my Wii was Blast Works or Zack & Wiki, that being said I don't mind having dry-spells of games I am personally interested in since then I can give time to another console. I am also really looking forward to Muramasa this fall.

Jim was just voicing some frustration he had with Nintendo itself, not the Wii console. I can understand why people may be upset with Nintendo. Jim writes many articles criticizing any of the three companies and yet in each one people always say "omg but the other companies...!".
Halidar's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:36
Halidar
Man... Half the fun of your articles is reading the retarded comments.

I agree with many of your base points. I haven't played a quality Wii game in a very long time (other than Punch out). I've lost faith in Nintendo, and no amount of Mario/Metroid/Zelda can change that.
andycadaver's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:38
andycadaver
Good job, kids.
buri3's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:39
buri3
@ possumwrangler

you gotta be kidding cause out of all three devs, Microsoft doesn't make it's own games ever, they bought studios that make games and shut down alot of the better ones anyways.

At least sony has shown trailers for games that sony gamers are actually asking for like GoW3 and The last guardian. Also giving free online services to those same customers, there are NO additional charges past actually purchasing your console which IS something gamers want.

Nintendo took 3 years to come up with one picture for a new zelda, 1 trailer for a metroid they gave to a 3rd party dev to make, and a remake of a DS game. and let's not mention the pikmin debacle.
Cadtalfryn's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:40
Cadtalfryn
Sigh, Jim may have strong opinions that not everyone may agree with but Destructoid would certainly not be better off without him. You can't be serious.

Nintendo definitely hasn't been as good to us as it has in past generations, that is for sure. I have very few first party titles for my Wii. However, there is more than enough third party love to keep me entertained. XSEED, Capcom, Marvelous, Grasshopper, Platinum, High Voltage and Sega have offered far more this generation than Nintendo has.

However, you would have to wonder if the Wii didn't have that install base, how many of these developers/publishers would be putting quality titles out for Wii in the numbers they do.

Regardless, I've never really felt the need to have more than one system in a generation before but I'm PS3 shopping right now. Nintendo's poor online is driving longtime fans to their competition. Five or ten years ago I wouldn't have thought about buying a Playstation.
HolyCowCubs's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:41
HolyCowCubs
this article makes me very happy because I have plenty of naive Nintendo friends who went crazy when the new marios were announced. it doesn't make sense that they can be happy with one great game a year but they are. don't get me wrong, I love super smash bros and Mario kart, but I see no reason to own a wii when I can own a ps3 instead.

to the people who claim that more halo or call of duty games are just as bad as more Mario, those games havent been around for 20
YEARS!! for gods sake nintendo, make a new franchise. be like Naughty Dog: make a couple awesome games in multiple different franchises, not a bajillion
zombielifecoach's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:42
zombielifecoach
We should ask him?

Jim are you out there?

Are you hiding from the Wii because you are scared? Scared of what it IS? What it represents? Does Nintendo haunt your dreams, Jim? Do you wake up in a cold sweat, with the creeping notion that poorly manufactured Wiimote peripherals are lurking in the dark recesses of you room?

BWOOHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:42
Dexter345
So, in summary of all three articles, all of the big three console manufacturers need to STFU.
Solozaur's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:42
Solozaur
Wow the fanboys are having a bonfire here!
bobyoko's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:43
bobyoko
i guess you can say what you want about nintendo, but the truth of the matter is that nintendo is running the industry right now. and, i've got to tell you, i don't see much in the way of innovation on the sides of their competitors. it's obvious to EVERYBODY that interface is where change is happening in the industry, and nintendo has spearheaded the movement. it is true that they need to play catchup in some other areas, ahem online ahem, but i see them as the only company out of the three that's truly trying to do something new and unique.

i'm sorry, but the other systems really don't seem that different to me than last gen. the style of games available are about the same, in terms of control, as last gen. i'm not that excited about a simple graphics upgade. it's not 1992 anymore.

is it true that nintendo is making mistakes this gen? yes. that really isn't up for debate. is motion control the next movement in the industry? yes. and that's the point.
Jack Maverick's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:44
Jack Maverick
Jim writes stuff which effectively describe how I feel about the company. Other people disagree with his writing and start to argue about it. Much fun is had.
FistfulOAwesome's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/16/2009 16:44
FistfulOAwesome
(Wakes Up) Mmm? Time for one of these again? Jim, will you ever learn?

E3 is a trade show. It isn't for gamers. It never was supposed to be. It's for companies to show off their products to investors. Nintendo showed off Wii Music and Animal Crossing because they thought those were the games that would equal big sales to them and to investors (of course, both ended up disappointments at about 2 million sales compared to Wii Fit and Mario Kart's over 15 million, but that's not the point).

Nintendo has little reason to show off "Hardcore" games since they aren't their big money makers (for instance, Metroid is "Hardcore" but has rarely (if ever) made more than 2 million a title (poor by Nintendo's standards (which is why Metroid was off the map for 8 years) and "Hardcore" gamers read up far more than "Casual" gamers do, thus they'll already know those games exist (for instance, do you remember how angry gamers were than Warioland: Shake it wasn't shown off at E3 08? You know, that game that they all already knew existed, thus didn't need advertised to them).

Do I even need to point out your hypocrisy?

Jim on E3 2008- Shitty Casual titles but no Zelda or Mario (despite both already having releases (Mario's most recent being only 7 months old) on the Wii). This is bullcrap!

Jim on E3 2009: (in Sarcastic voice) OHH, new Mario (3 actually), Zelda, and Metroid, along with several third part offerings. I guess I got what I asked for. Well, it won't work, Nintendo! You really expect that to be enough!?

Nintendo isn't "ashamed" of it's core gamer audience. It simply doesn't cater exclusively to them anymore. There are many types of gamers and Nintendo seeks to satisfy them all. Wii, as in We, remember? That's their entire message and sell here, to bring everybody to game (so I don't sound like a fruit, everybody meaning many customers), and not just those that have for their entire lives (which I remind you is an incredibly small number of people compared to those that play casually (which is a small number compared to those who don't play period).

By the way, nice on calling Animal Crossing a "boring" game, like that's everybody's opinion and not just yours. Even nicer on claiming that Reggie wasn't right about Animal Crossing Wii being for "Hardcore" more than it was for "Casuals, which is true (aside from the sales reflecting this, the game had online play (which "Casuals" don't care about), Voice Chat (which "Casuals" don't care about), no intergrated Wii controls (which "Casuals" would find boring (Why can't I fish? Why do I just press a button?), and basically being little more than an update to a game that "Casuals" didn't like much in the first place).

Also, while that guy who made the Hard Drive comment was far too brash in his phrasing, he is right. The Virtual Console audience (and the ones who buy an impressive amount of games) are a fraction of a fraction of the Wii's audience. Nintendo still hasn't found a way to make Virtual Console appeal to the majority of the Wii's audience (likely because the games are essentially long-term rentals that are tied to the Wii they are downloaded for).

Seriously Jim, stop crying and accept the fact that Nintendo had done almost only good this generation. They are appealing to their old audience (aside from some internet stalwarts who are all too proud to claim how "few" good games the Wii has or how long ago they sold their Wii/How long it's been since they used it) while bringing in a huge new audience rich in their diversity.

I plead for you to get over your "Hardcore" hatred of Nintendo for "abandoning" it's older audience in favor of greener pastures.

Read this site: seanmalstrom.wordpress.com

I know you already told me that you think this guy is full of crap, but that's because you only read (pronounced red) what he wrote, you didn't read (pronounced reed) what he wrote. Get over your hate, before it's too late (and you end up like those sad sacks who still hate Nintendo for killing 80's "Mature" computer gaming with the "Simple (i.e. dumb)" NES (huh, that sounds familiar).
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