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Nintendo: No more Freeloaders 'round here photo

Dust that GameCube off - it looks like you'll have to put it back into your gaming rig.

Nintendo is now probably twiddling their thumbs and casually whistling while gazing off in the distance, pretending like they didn't know that the latest Wii firmware update would render Datel's Freeloader software unusable.

Freeloader was originally a third-party product for the GameCube, enabling users to defeat the territorial protection of the console to play imported games. Up until now, gamers could use Freeloader to play imported GameCube titles on the Wii, but the version 3 firmware update killed that possibility. 

Nintendo told Eurogamer that there was nothing they could do as Freeloader is not an officially licensed product. Nintendo has said nothing about fixing compatibility problems with the software.

[Via GamesIndustry.biz - thanks, Justin] 

 








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Tristero's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 08:09
Tristero
Remember that whole Game Genie debacle? Nintendo lost that to Galoob big time. I believe this is pretty much the same issue.

Was this really an unintended consequence of the firmware update? Could something like this be an accident? Or did Nintendo purposefully do this to "flex nuts" while they work towards disabling mod chips through firmware adjustments?

Where's the Internet Matlock on this one?

Oh and real gangstas don't have to flex nuts, cause real gangstas know they got 'em.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 08:14
Cowboy TTop
That's a poor excuse if I ever heard one Nintendo. First to do it and second to not tell us, thinking we won't care or notice.

So why didn't you make a call to Datel and create some dialogue, Nintendo? Do we not at least deserve that you tell us gamers about it, just out of basic customer respect? Just as you earn or respect again, eh.

Well, it just makes me more glad I kept my GC, because it was only a matter of time before this happened. I hope Nintendo like their customers enough to work with Datel and fix this.
In a way this is one of things with current consoles, updates are a double edged sword, because you are never told what the updates do, or are you given the option to opt out



lvl54spacemonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 08:16
lvl54spacemonkey
Does the disc swapping trick still work? That's how i used my old version 1 freeloader. I havent got a wireless net connection right now so i can't download the new firmware to test it.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 08:40
Cowboy TTop
This isn't like the Game Genie thing, which went all the way to court. Nintendo Europe/U.K knew about Freeloader and didn't mind U.K/E.U GC owners importing games, which obviously gives them payment, as opposed to piracy which gives them nothing. At that time Nintendo were also last in the console race, so any purchases the were getting were a bonus, even with Freeloader.

Perhaps now they are in first place, they are doing the U-turn. I really hope not, because as consoles get more like PCs, this region lock out stuff just seems evermore stupid. They force it on us and say its for telling territorial sales etc. That may have once been the case, but I'm not buying that any more.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 08:49
Bob Muir
Two things:

1) Nintendo. Stop being dicks. What the hell?

2) Am I the only person in the world who held onto my Gamecube when I bought a Wii? Freeloader still works the same way it was originally intended to work: lets you play foreign Gamecube games on your Gamecube. Yay for being a pack rat.
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 08:51
michiyoyoshiku
I think it's our duty to Spam nintendo until they give us wiigon free wiis.
Tristero's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 09:08
Tristero
@Cowboy TTop

I agree that this is different from the Game Genie thing in that Nintendo's still stinging from that lawsuit. They had to pay out $15 MILLION to Galoob for lost sales. I think they learned that this is not something they can win in a legal battle because the same jurisprudence concepts apply.

So Nintendo does dirty tricks like this instead. Freeloader has no ground to stand on if this was an accidental cold shoulder. Nintendo's release dates vary widely across the globe. Everytime I look at Europe's line-up I get a small pang of pity. I don't know what they're doing or why, but it's obvious they are strategically planning the releases in different territories at different times for some reason. Having a device that counters their marketing/release plan is obviously going to irk them.
Mister Disco's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 09:36
Mister Disco
I kept mine, Necros, mostly for my GB Player.

This is a dick move by Nintendo, if it was intentional. Which, honestly, I can't see how "whoops" fits into this. And we honestly thought they'd make the system region free for a second or two last year? Ha! Ha and Ha! Pricks.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 09:39
Aaron Mxy Yost
And in a couple weeks I'm sure a new version of Freeloader will be out to fix the fix.
lowercaseluke's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 11:07
lowercaseluke
Honestly, they could update my Wii to kill my mother and I wouldn't care. That sexy blue glow gets me every time...
h3lios's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 11:46
h3lios
This is the reason why i won't be getting a Wii this generation. This is bullshit. It's bad enough the Wii is a glorified GC in terms of specs, but not being able to play my NTSC Metroid 1 and 2, MGS:TT, Smash Bros and Starfox: Assault is retarded.

If they really wanted to do something that made sense, why not release a sneaky update to brick all hard modded Wiis? Why should the rest of us suffer, or rather, why should they shun the rest of us from buying Wiis?

It looks Nintendo's taken a leaf out of Sony's book with such a pompous attitude.

And the so called "logic" for having fucked up released dates for EU is useless. In a day and age when MS and Sony can do releases in a few days between the US and EU regions, why can't they do the same?
deanhatescoffee's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 12:42
deanhatescoffee
I'm with AgentMOO on this one. Why shouldn't Nintendo want to patch up its own holes? While it would be great if everything was open source and region free, the reality is that it's not. Nintendo is a business, and they're here to make money.
fluc02's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 13:09
fluc02
This might not be a direct attack on Freeloader, but an unintended consequence of their battle with modchips. Apparently, as of this latest update, the configuration and update disks for several of the more popular modchips also no longer boot.
emorymdotcom's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 15:34
emorymdotcom
I don't understand the anger about this issue... the Freeloader wasn't made by Nintendo and apparently it wasn't approved by Nintendo... Nintendo never stated that unlicensed GameCube products whose intention was to circumvent region lockouts would be compatible with the Wii.

It seems like anger should be directed at Datel for not releasing a newer Wii version of Freeloader which could be updated via USB... what made them think their existing product which was unsupported by Nintendo would continue to function in the face of firmware updates?

If Nintendo must be blamed lets focus on their policy, the region lockouts, rather than the fact they chose to enforce the policy...
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 16:47
Bob Muir
@ Mister Disco
Thank you, I was wondering if I'm the only one who insisted on being able to play Gunstar Super Heroes on my TV.
RevivedDemon's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2007 17:34
RevivedDemon
Goddamnit Nintendo, I love you but now I'm genuinely fucking pissed. I don't care if it costs me a fuckload of money or something like that but give me SOME FUCKING WAY(other than getting an extra Jap Wii) to play import games. I want my goddamn Naruto EX motherfuckers, and I want it NOW.
RJG's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/09/2007 07:58
RJG
Luckily my Wii Modchip (LEGAL HERE IN AUSTRALIA BEFORE THE FEDS COME AFTER ME) isn't affected by this update. Install discs to update the chip won't work, but the chip itself still does, and the dev team are already working on fixing the issue.

Nintendo needs to pull its head out of its ass. The more they try to bend people to their price fixing, regional locking will, the more people will realise they're being fucked over hard and RAW.

Then again, region free absolutely kills console sales and software sales, I mean the handhelds like Game Boy, DS and PSP are...fucking through the roof. Never mind.
Touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/12/2007 12:53
Touch
My Freeloader stopped working in my Wii ages ago - is that something to do with the version I had?

Anyway, I'm glad I didn't sell my cube now.....
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