Wii Music sounds like the biggest shitfest.

They're running out of new ideas.

I bet we'll see 15 Mario games and none will be a true successor to Super Mario Galaxy

And Nintendo knows that 80% of its Wii owners won't even be following/keeping up with the latest Nintendo news.

They don't care that we don't know what they're planning.

o/ slap myself, sorry. I just got it.

the more they deny the neglect, the more they prove they are. even if it's just briefly.

if I don't see or hear a confirmation of a F-Zero soon, Wii's pointless.

i swore i wouldnt touch another pkmn game since Blue until they come out with a true 3d or mmo pkmn game. that was 10 years ago. ive had to sit through countless 3d pkmn snap/ stadium/ collesium games. WTF. It's the only way pkmn can win back that original generation of red/blue AND bring in the new young kids.

give us new franchises or up the playing field for the current ones.

don't get me started I could rant all fuggin' day about ninty. they are really diggin holes deeper and deeper. And when I think about it. I shoulda saw this coming way before I bought the system.

You've really got to prove yourself ninty to keep me for Wii2.

where are original IPs, and rpgs. I doubt someone will complain about a New Super Mario Bros 3.

Just do them right. damn it. Now I've got a hemorrhoid. thanks.

Yeah, don't wanna sound fanboyism but does everyone just disregard wario land? I'm really excited for a new 2d game that looks that crisp and is wario to boot.

Lies all lies.

I'm at the breaking point with Nintendo. They can pretty much suck my god damn balls. Maybe they'll pull a Sony and in a year or two be totally bad-ass again, but I doubt it. The wound their E3 presser caused is just too deep.

It's too late Nintendo! I've already abandoned you! I got rid of my Wii and because of that I have a handful of new games to play and a copy of FFXIII with my name on it. Fuggov!

Nintendo is breaking my heart at pieces.....


but im going trough this thnxs to my xb360.....

When Pikmin is the "core" game, we live in a sad world.

What's the point of ranting about it? If you don't like what Nintendo is offering, then get a PS3 or a 360 and STFU

They even make it easy for you to do the switch: the Wii is on such high demand, you can get most of your money back from your purchase.

Devil's advocate here.

I didn't like Nintendo's press conference. Cammy is frankly scary, and WiiMusic looks like shit. That being said, they are still working on new Zelda, Mario, and even Pikmin games, Miyamoto said it himself during E3. So while I don't like the quality of some games that they're churning out right now, I realize that actually making a quality game takes time, and understand if they don't have anything concrete to show us at this moment.

This also shows us that we can't rely on first-party titles all the time. While we're waiting for new installments of Mario or Zelda, third-party companies have the potential to release their games now while there's no competition from the core Nintendo franchises. An opportunity that many of them don't take seriously. If the Wii had more third-party support, the first-party titles would simply be icing on the cake, but since they've come to be the only thing we expect from the Wii, we demand more out of them when they're released.

Nintendo is far from perfect, obviously, but I'm not ready to sell my Wii yet. If the quality of those core titles starts dropping though, then I'll jump off the bandwagon. For now though, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

There's always the 360 and my DS to keep me entertained until then.

Once I see F-Zero WiiX, I'll believe it.

"We still have developers working on popular core gaming franchises."

I maybe crazy, but how about you leave those "popular gaming franchises" while they're going downhill and make something...well, I don't know...new?

I'm tired of seeing old games with gimmicky Wii controls. I'd like to see something fresh. Something that was built from the ground up with Wii in mind.

I'm tired of Mario Kart and I'm tired of fucking Zelda.

If not that then please give me another 2D Metroid game for my DS.

may be*

Also, fuck Animal Crossing.

The core audience loves friend codes as well

I don't much pay attention to what Nintendo is doing anymore. That said, I'm still very happy I have a Wii. The Virtual Console kicks ass (except for no Earthbound... grr) and that's keeping me busy enough. And then there's the DS which has no shortage of kick ass games...

What's the problem?

I officially call bull**** on anything Nintendo. Except another powerglove.

Powerglove 2.0 is win.

They esentially told the market group that had been buying their stuff for years to go fuck themselves, Nintendo didn't just forget about them, they tossed them to the sharks.

You can't tell me that them releasing so many big titles wasn't their plan, you release "hardcore" content first and once you're established, you experiment, that's why they don't have shit to show right now, they released all their big ones to sucker GC owners into buying the Wii, now that the market group they actually wanted is established and BIGGER than their old group, they can do as they please.

Even a Kid Icarus would make me happy at this point, just something.

I don't know man. I feel like the neglected buddy that got shoved aside because Nintendo found a cooler, richer friend. That pisses me off! "Hey look, there's Casual - he's an awesome friend. He doesn't read reviews and he has a really short memory, as well as DEEP pockets, so he'll buy lots of cheaply made shitports and smile while he's doing it. He's my new best friend!

And I am still a huge fan of their old stuff (my office has Mario shit everywhere), like SNES. I look at Nintendo the same way I look at MTV or Star Wars - it kicked ass at first because it was raw and real, but over time it just got all used up and then sold out.

Now I'm just indifferent to it. I won't sell my Wii because I bought a shitload of virtual console games, but I haven't bought a disk game since Baroque, and I really wasn't happy with that. I've traded most of my Wii games on Goozex, which has allowed me to catch up on all the good PS3 games I missed out on as a late adopter.

Real gamers still care about Nintendo?

I really think this comment just goes to show how disconnected Nintendo is from their fanbase at this point. We're not waiting around for more Zelda and Mario. Indeed, constant sequels from the assembly line would only water those names down and wear them out.

Core gamers are not obsessed with big name franchises, we just want more games that are challenging, deep and fun.

"They're games sell well. They're systems sell well. Where is the expansion?"

It goes directly to their heads.