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Reggie Fils-Aime, the man with meatballs of steel, has stated that Nintendo's ultimate goal is to capture all of us, and hardcore shooter fans are up next on the list of souls he wishes to claim. With The Conduit and Dead Space: Extraction, the pork flavored president believes that the "core" gamer is his for the taking.

"We have near-term, mid-term and long-term opportunities," he claims. "The near-term opportunity is the consumer who owns a PlayStation 3 or an Xbox 360 and has been bad-mouthing Wii to their friends. We can reach that consumer with games like The Conduit or Tiger Woods with Wii Motion Plus."

Reggie's mid-term goal is to get the more mainstream consumer who "just needs a little extra incentive" to get a Wii, something he believes he can do with Motion Plus and New Super Mario Bros. The long-term goal is to seize the hearts of those who don't play, and have zero interest in videogames. 

"We think we win over the Halo audience with something like The Conduit, a multiplayer, online, shooting experience, or Dead Space Extraction," he adds. "And you know what? Once those people buy into Wii, they'll go buy Mario Kart or Wii Fit Plus."

I'll pass, thanks.


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Ckarasu's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 08:31
Ckarasu
Hate to ask, but what's wrong with your post? I see a bunch of <i>'s instead of italics. Just alerting you.
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 08:32
Justice
The Conduit will not convince Halo players to buy a Wii if they haven't got on already. Halo players like Halo, hence why they have a 360. A generic FPS will do little to make them garner interest in another console. WiiMotionPlus isn't a system seller either, regardless of whether or not it's bundled with Tiger Woods. This proves that "Hamburger Reg" is now delusional.
Ckarasu's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 08:34
Ckarasu
Ah, it's fixed. And moved to front page (probably what fixed it).
Maxxthepenguin's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 08:35
Maxxthepenguin
Either delusional or doing some PR.
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 08:35
Justice
@Ckarasu
The post was in the cblogs for some reason, which don't use HTML, but since it's not on the main page (which I presume does use HTML) the tags are working correctly.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 08:38
Jon B
>we win over the Halo audience with something like The Conduit

I have a problem with this statement. Not least is it a load of bollocks, but isn't The Conduit third-party, and Halo MS-GameStudios?
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 08:40
Black Nexus
I knew Nintendo had gotten delusional, but this is worst than I thought.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 08:50
ParaParaKing
"We have near-term, mid-term and long-term opportunities," he claims. "The near-term opportunity is the consumer who owns a PlayStation 3 or an Xbox 360 and has been bad-mouthing Wii to their friends. We can annoy that consumer even more with talking idot crap like this."
nailerr's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 08:53
nailerr
Cor, if I had not sold my Wii I could be not buying a poor looking waggle shooter for it soon. Call me judgemental, but no fucking thank you, Big N.

Wii is good for some people, that's fine. Just not for everyone and I suppose Nintendo will have to learn that.
sickNasty's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 08:54
sickNasty
I love that he points out the Wii's only online FPS as a reason 360 owners will get a Wii.

Does he not realize that both the PS3 and 360 have dozens of quality online FPS games?
grasslunatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 08:57
grasslunatic
Sorry Reggie.
Scroll's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 09:01
Scroll
Nope even when I owned a wii I didn't buy the extra silly peripherals.

Oh and Modern warfare 2> Anything that is "hardcore" on the wii.
CallMeRotten's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 09:04
CallMeRotten
Nyah you'll never get me alive Nintendo, see?
atastysammich's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 09:05
atastysammich
You'll never catch me, Reggie! Wheeehehehehehe--ooh, ice cream!

@sickNasty
Don't forget RPGs and fighters that aren't forced to hold back because of the controller.
Trev's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 09:07
Trev
Once those people buy into Wii, they'll go buy Mario Kart or Wii Fit Plus.

I have a Wii (well, still have, by virtue of No More Heroes 2) and I can honestly say I will never buy either of those games or The Conduit. I had a ton of fun with Double Dash because of the two-person karts and then Mario Kart went downhill, back to the same old thing. Couldn't care less about The Conduit or The Grinder until one is proven and stops looking like a generic alien shooter with a protagonist trying too hard to be cool.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 09:21
PappaDukes
I actually fired up my Wii for the first time in months (the DS one my heart and all my time) in order to play Final Fantasy IV: The After Years, and lord almighty, I'm certainly glad I did. That game is ZOMG RETROMAZING!
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 09:51
Dv8thwonder
Any true hardcore gamer would play any game regardless of the console.
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 09:52
pascuz46
The Conduit is the next Halo killer, there you have it. Confirmed by Reggie. What a smug bastard. I have no interest in the wii, Im sorry that console is not for me. 3 of my close friends have a wii and that still will not persuade me to buying one. If anything I would buy a 360.


PS3 KICKS ASS!
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 09:53
Jim Sterling
"Any true hardcore gamer would play any game regardless of the console."

Not if they think it looks a bit rubbish.

You can't just throw out a shooter and say "right, the hardcore gamers will lap that up," especially if they've been playing CoD, Halo or Killzone 2 the whole time.
bluerei's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 10:02
bluerei
The only thing that got me to dig out the wii after a whole year of collecting dust in the basement was Muramasa and Tatsunoko vs. Capcom. They should have promoted those games during their press conference.
habslove's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 10:03
habslove
People who would maybe buy The Conduit are the people who own PS3s and 360s. That's why MadWorld and GTA: Chinatown Wars did poorly. It's pretty obvious. And it's not like we have to buy Wiis to get The Conduit because we already have Killzone, Halo, Gears, CoD4...
usernamefail's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 10:04
usernamefail
Exactamundo, what is Nintendo's plan to draw in the hardcore gamers who already have a Wii and have not purchased a game in two years?
Springsteen's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 10:06
Springsteen
I'm starting to not stand this guy. It's like he has no idea about what he's saying. Ever.

There are no good PURE FPSs on the Wii so far. The Conduit won't change that. High Voltage may come to learn one thing or two in the process, but it just doesn't seem like they've nailed it this time.

As a platformer/adventure enthusiast with lots of non-gaming friends, I'm pretty much satisfied with the Wii. Super Mario Galaxy is possibly the most cohesive, fun platformer I've ever played and there's always Zelda or the promise of it. Either way, for FPSs I stick with the other 2 consoles. By the way, why did hardcore become synonymous with FPSs?
Cartman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 10:14
Cartman
Nintendo, leave the hardcore gamers alone. You can not get to us, we are too powerful.
Timdabrat's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 10:26
Timdabrat
wait. Did he just lop mario kart into their casual games? Oh help us all.
Superfluous Moniker's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 10:59
Superfluous Moniker
Core gamers will just say it's 'gay' or 'more of the same' (because that new Halo looks like a totally original experience, right?), but I'm pretty impressed with what Nintendo's got coming up. New 2d Mario, Galaxy 2, and Metroid Other M alone are enough to almost double my Wii collection. And Punch-Out means my Wii's been busy lately.
Velt's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 11:25
Velt
Well now is time for trash talk post-e3... Since when mario kart is not for the hardcore? And since when a hardcore will buy a wii fit plus?
Games on the wii are not looking good.
WhiteX's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 11:37
WhiteX
"Not if they think it looks a bit rubbish. "

Looks are not everything Jim, Little King´s story is amongst the best games i ever played and it does not look good as a ps360 game.
Mr Jonson's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 11:43
Mr Jonson
there's some sense to what he's speaking

If you play FPS games on xbox/ps3, you might find the wii controls of The Conduit appealing (probably nothing else beyond that). If you played Dead Space on a next-gen console, you might want to check out it's prequel.

Sure, if you take Reggie's comment as "OMG Teh Conduit is bettar then Killzoen!!!!1" then yes, he'd come across as being bonkers.
Nerdy Suit's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 11:51
Nerdy Suit
Reggie is a great businessman. The problem is that he doesn't understand the gamers that play things like COD4, Bioshock, etc. I was watching Reggie talk about how Nintendo will capture the hardcore gamer with The Conduit and Deep Space: Extraction, and I thought to myself that Reggie either:

A) Doesn't understand core gamers

...or...

B) Does understand core gamers and knows that they won't be satisfied with those games, but still has to put on the company face and act like they will be satisfied.
L0cky's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 11:55
L0cky
sure good grapichs are nic to have but they dont hide bad game or bad controls.
i own both a xbox 360 and a wii and to b honest i played more on my wii then my xbox.
most games on the 360 i can also play on my pc or are fps games which i am not intrested in at all.

i care more about good artstyle and polished games and are original and fun then technical amazing looking games which are generic.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 11:57
Holyetheline
There's too many things wrong with what he said. Hell is coming.
Artemus's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 12:00
Artemus
Mr. Fils-Aime, the consummate salesman.
Vanor's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 12:03
Vanor
Let me ask a question:

Aside from the very very purdy graphics, what do the 360 or PS3 offer in the way of games that hasn't already been done on the previous consoles? I'm not saying that the newer games for those systems are bad. There are quite a few that are good, but do any of them really do anything differently compared to their older brethren? When I see most FPS games on the 360 or PS3, I think, "Golly, those graphics sure look pretty good, but is that it?"

This is what pisses me off about the 360 and the PS3: Beyond making everything look better, it's still all the same! In fact, the only reason I considered getting a 360 recently was because of Red Faction Guerrilla, and that's because I can actually interact with the environment! That's what I've been wanting to see in games with their higher processing power: More freedom for the player to interact with the environment and do things you couldn't do in the older consoles.

But I hardly see any of that on the PS3 or the 360. And that's why I'm really excited for the new Silent Hill, where the game is designed around letting the player interact with the game's world in ways that's not possible on the the other consoles. I'm not defending Nintendo, far from it. They have done things to piss me off, but on the other hand, the other two haven't done much to wow me with their graphical horsepower, especially when you don't do anything with it!

Anyways, what this boils down to is thus: I got a Wii, I got plenty of good games for the system. I got games that take advantage of the controls, and more traditional games that work just fine with the Wii Controls. So why buy a more expensive console with more expensive games, when I can get the same experience on a cheaper console, with cheaper games. If the only difference in the gameplay experience is graphics, then that's something I'll gladly sacrifice as long as I'm still having fun. Which is probably why my PSP and DS collection is extremely large right now.
NeoGreenLantern's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 12:20
NeoGreenLantern
@ Jim Sterling

You are right hardcore gamers won't play a game if it looks like crap. They will play a game if they want to increase their achievement score.

That is what Nintendo needs. An overall score system.
kce05d's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 12:30
kce05d
why is it that they release 1 or 2 games of a particular genre then talk about how they are capturing that type of gamer. Unless the conduit is 1000 hours, that's a very ignorant statement to make.
CocoJambo's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 12:39
CocoJambo
I'd never play a FPS on anything other than a mouse and keyboard, and probably a wiimote.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 13:02
EdgyDude
"...The near-term opportunity is the consumer who owns a PlayStation 3 or an Xbox 360 and has been bad-mouthing Wii to their friends. We can reach that consumer with games like The Conduit or Tiger Woods with Wii Motion Plus."

"Once those people buy into Wii, they'll go buy Mario Kart or Wii Fit Plus."

Tiger Woods? Wii Fit Plus?, i'd sure love to know what old Reg smokes to come up with this level of insanity in his quotes. I think Nintendo has wooed the shot term (read: Casuals) long enough, problem is they won't stop until they actually start losing money with them, but by that moment, when they turn to their core audience for support they will already have been absorbed by either MS or Sony (which might have happened already). It's gonna be a sad, sad end for Nintendo, but certainly not an undeserved one.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 13:13
Chronic Logic
Just goes to show that Nintendo is the true devil here and not Microsoft or Sony.
peachboy's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 13:17
peachboy
there are many things stinking up nintendo, but reggie is a big flaming pile of corpse puke. i try not to yell at my wii too much, i can't blame it for having bat shit insane cash whores for creators.

@edgydude

too right, just what I was thinking. I know that I for one have let my wii gather dust in favour of my 360, and I even camped out for the damn waggle box. really though it's not surprising, as nintendo has been slowly circling the drain since gamecube, despite what their bankbooks say today.
Vanor's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 13:17
Vanor
Let me ask a question:

Aside from the very very purdy graphics, what do the 360 or PS3 offer in the way of games that hasn't already been done on the previous consoles? I'm not saying that the newer games for those systems are bad. There are quite a few that are good, but do any of them really do anything differently compared to their older brethren? When I see most FPS games on the 360 or PS3, I think, "Golly, those graphics sure look pretty good, but is that it?"

This is what pisses me off about the 360 and the PS3: Beyond making everything look better, it's still all the same! In fact, the only reason I considered getting a 360 recently was because of Red Faction Guerrilla, and that's because I can actually interact with the environment! That's what I've been wanting to see in games with their higher processing power: More freedom for the player to interact with the environment and do things you couldn't do in the older consoles.

But I hardly see any of that on the PS3 or the 360. And that's why I'm really excited for the new Silent Hill, where the game is designed around letting the player interact with the game's world in ways that's not possible on the the other consoles. I'm not defending Nintendo, far from it. They have done things to piss me off, but on the other hand, the other two haven't done much to wow me with their graphical horsepower, especially when you don't do anything with it!

Anyways, what this boils down to is thus: I got a Wii, I got plenty of good games for the system. I got games that take advantage of the controls, and more traditional games that work just fine with the Wii Controls. So why buy a more expensive console with more expensive games, when I can get the same experience on a cheaper console, with cheaper games. If the only difference in the gameplay experience is graphics, then that's something I'll gladly sacrifice as long as I'm still having fun. Which is probably why my PSP and DS collection is extremely large right now.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 13:42
pedrovay2003
I think the Grinder is going to be a better reason to get a Wii than the Conduit, personally.
darknil's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 13:44
darknil
I cannot stand this man, you can't expect PS3 and 360's players to change because of one game! Especially if you have it already on those consoles.

Btw, I shall ask, you have PSN and LIVE, with friend list, status, game invitations, simple and clean way of getting in a game with some friends, so, you expect to change that with Friend Codes?! The Conduit's devs already said that they can't change that structure.
Numpty's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 14:10
Numpty
Funny how quickly Nintendo became the Devil again once they were no longer the scrappy underdog fighting out from under Sony and MS domination...
Magnalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 15:04
Magnalon
I was able to play The Conduit at E3 and I have to say, coming from a huge Halo fan: it's f'ing garbage. It was very sloppy, the weapons, character designs, and the level designs were all generic as well.

If I rented this game, I'd probably return it and keep playing Killzone 2.


@Pedrovay2003
EASILY. 4 player coop similar to L4D? Even if the game is a pile of shit, it'll still be a blast to play.
Revolution's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 16:47
Revolution
Reggie isn't gonna capture anyone with those games. But Wii FPS controls > Dual analog anyday.
mrsatan's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 17:09
mrsatan
@Vanor The PS3 and 360 offer far more horsepower so that you can up the level of environmental interaction. Take a look at GTA4 and the level of detail in the environment. That would never be able to run on Wii. Also the new Silent Hill you are describing looks terrible. Sorry, but making Silent Hill into an icetown is not my idea of scary. Also it's the first "Mom Friendly" Silent Hill. WTF, since when was Silent Hill ever supposed to be Mom Friendly. Nintendo got their grubby hands on that one too.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 18:51
EdgyDude
@Vanor: Granted, it's true, besides pretty as hell graphics nothing is truly different. But here's a good question too, what have third parties done for the Wii lately that's good? i'll quote the lovely Colette Bennett here when she said even though the Wii doesn't have half the horsepower, that that is still no excuse to make ugly games. FYI i also own a Wii, and besides first party games, most else somehow ends below par (with notable exceptions), and i'm not talking graphics here, let's break things into points:

1)Horrible graphics (even for last gen level): Again, the main offenders are games like DR:CTYD from Capcom, i still can't believe they used the same engine as RE4:WE, i just can't, and if they did, they just did a crappy use of it, Smash Bros Brawl is a perfect example of awesome graphics that aren't HD.

2)Go core or go casual, but not both unless you do it right: I'll unleash the ire of many here, but an example of this is Madworld, yes, Madworld, how come? Madworld was marketed as a hardcore brawler for the Wii complete with gushing blood and limbs a-flying, so far so good, but if that is the case, then why the hell it takes a group of enemies around 30 secs to decide to launch a punch against you?, if you want to make casuals feel as cool as regular gamers, make a casual difficulty level and let people choose, don't force the rest of us to go through the whole damn game to actually unlock the real 'normal' difficulty level (which seems is now known as 'Hard' difficulty).

3) Stop resurrecting old IPs, resurrect GOOD old IPs or at the very least fix the original problems they had, example given: You know, i'd give my left nut to see MGS3 on the Wii, there are plenty of good IPs that can be properly brought to the Wii, so please stop bringing crap. As a counter example of this point i'll mention Rygar, not even the tiny details such as the arm sticking through the golden disc armor were fixed, just tacked some waggle and release, which brings me to my next point.

4)Cut the damn waggle over use: If anyone played RE4 Wii they'll know that not only it feels just as good as the original on GC or PS2, it actually feels even better on the Wii, why? because motion controls actually are properly used, not just tacked on as gimmicks or so poorly and unprecisely implemented that they are hindrances instead.

5)Stop releasing half-baked bug-filled games: Deadly Creatures and Tomb Raider Underworld are perfect examples here, anyone that played DC will attest to the level of bugs that happen when horned lizards appear, from epileptic seizures from said lizards to bugs so bad that you have to restart the whole chapter to fix it (not even loading a save will work, you have to restart the chapter). TR is even worse as the Wii version had a notorious bug on the Thailand ruins level where a missing lever prevented you from going further. I'll admit this is not limited to the Wii, but when you are taking risks on a console, it improves the odds for you not to release defective games.

I'm having some hopes with coming releases, but i'm also considering getting a 360, i'm just to damn tired of waiting for a decent third party release, next gen, i'm waiting at least a year before choosing a console, if it's certainly true that pretty graphics don't make up for gameplay, it's also true that bad graphics with crappy gameplay is much worse.
ration's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2009 19:34
ration
wii's internet connection sucks

who the hell wants to play an online shooter thats already sloppy to begin

with on a wireless connection
LsTr Of SmG's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2009 12:08
LsTr Of SmG
@ Vanor everyone else has addressed the main points in your post but I'm amazed no one has picked up on this one:

'I got a Wii, I got plenty of good games for the system. I got games that take advantage of the controls, and more traditional games that work just fine with the Wii Controls. So why buy a more expensive console with more expensive games, when I can get the same experience on a cheaper console, with cheaper games.'

Err, the 360 is cheaper than the Wii and I don't know what country you live in but the games cost the same. True the PS3 is more expensive but it can also do a lot more. Also your points about pushing games with motion control is being addressed if you paid ANY attention to E3. So not only will the PS3 and 360 have more horsepower they'll have more accurate motion control too.

Don't get me wrong I like my Wii, if only for games like No More Heroes, Zelfa, Super Mario Galaxy and Trauma Centre but many of your points smack of fanboyism. Why can't the love be spread between all the consoles?
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