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Nintendo 'explains' Smash Bros. Brawl European delay photo

Regular readers of Destructoid will know my long-standing complaints concerning the farcical period between Super Smash Bros. Brawl's North American and European/Australian release dates. Despite a range of excuses, Nintendo has finally settled on a reason -- translation is just too difficult.

"Every time you go through localization you then have to put it through a test, which involves making sure that you recorded the proper voice, and that the proper voice is being activated with the proper trigger, at the proper time… so it’s not just a case of swapping over some words, it requires some proper extra development processes. And so it takes time."

Nintendo's Laurent Fischer explained the above process was the reason why Brawl was taking so long, despite the fact that it takes most Japanese developers about a month to do (rather than Nintendo's six) and despite the fact that most studios can handle near-worldwide release dates these days. Games like GTA IV and MGS4 must simply be easier to localize than Smash Bros. It all makes sense now!

"I realize that from time to time we have still been disappointing some people, but in general we have also been able to bring to them games which would have never been available before in a European market, and the time frame is slowly decreasing, so I’m positive for the future. We know that we are still not reaching the expectations of all the people, but we’re really doing our best to resolve this."

Which would be fair enough, except in this day and age, when nearly every developer but Nintendo can seem to handle the localization process, claiming it takes six months just makes the company look bad. If Nintendo wants to look like it can't handle international publishing as well as its competitors, though, that's cool.


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MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 11:32
MechaMonkey
"but in general we have also been able to bring to them games which would have never been available before in a European market"

They would have been available before if you released them in a timely manner.
njsykora's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 11:36
njsykora
In all honesty, I'm long past caring how long this thing is delayed. Just get it out already.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 11:41
king3vbo
But, most of SSBB is just grunts and squeaks....
lvl54spacemonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 11:41
lvl54spacemonkey
That's a lame excuse. If nintendo were running their company in a vaguely modern way then their QA team should have a group of Localisation testers, one for each language needed, to test all the language changes. Something that would only take each one a matter of days. also they would have access to the text files on the disc to check spelling and grammar is correct. Localisation is done from quite early on in the QA process so there's no excuse for nintendo unless they have literally could not be arsed to pay for a loacalisation team.
that1dood's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 11:45
that1dood
I still don't get it. I don't recall their being any voice acting other than grunts, with the exception of the guy going "READY... GO!"

I guess I can't complain since I've got here in the states already but that seems pretty ridiculous. Also, aside from the additional characters and the slight graphical update, Melee is better than Brawl anyway.
exodus1925's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 11:47
exodus1925
Excuses, excuses... all completely shit. Damn you Nintendo, damn you to hell.
Professor Pew's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 11:47
Professor Pew
Blablabla general Nintendo bullshit. Wake me when they release a game with a good story worldwide.
tornotlukin's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 11:57
tornotlukin
Are there places that sell import versions of games? Or is that more of a online thing? What are the laws about purchases from other regions, or are there any?
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 11:58
Shin Oni
that sense make no.

so apparently Nintendo just don't feel like releasing it earlier...or from what I understand. Cause that didn't get any belives.
AlucardX24's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:01
AlucardX24
I gotta say, it's not really worth all this trouble. Brawl is a tuned down version of Melee, with strange features to make up for a lowered difficulty. The story mode is really dumb, especially the last level, and the wifi play is pretty laggy.
galagabug 's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:01
galagabug
i heard the word 'spaz' was used in ssbb. so yeah, happy waiting :)

nintendo was off to a mediocore start, super paper mario didn't take this long to get its PAL release did it? i guess after that fiasco, they're making sure all the t's are crossed and the i's are dotted.
dragfindel's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:13
dragfindel
do the smash bros games even have voice acting?
just the sounds when they are hurt.
besides the only translation needed are the menus...
so i don't get this argument from nintendo
Boolean's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:19
Boolean
Jesus Nintendo, if you are going to make up some completely BS reason, at least put some effort in.
MaximusPaynicus's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:20
MaximusPaynicus
I didn't know it was so hard to add an extra U to some words.
F Whipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:31
F Whipple
Calm down guys. You don't even realize how hard it is to get a hold of all the voice actors again so they can say "wanker" and "cunt"


"Show me your moves, cunt"
Mxyzptlk's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:36
Mxyzptlk
You guys still don't have Brawl?
garrfunkel's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:40
garrfunkel
Im glad they sorted that out. And I tought they were just being slow for no apparent reason.
Remo's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:42
Remo
Bully Bully Bullshit.
5thDimensionYeti's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:53
5thDimensionYeti
I really dont care about this release anymore. I was so hyped about it when it was released in the other territories, but now I just dont care :(
And Nintendo's "excuse" is just pathetic......
Anus Mcphanus's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 12:59
Anus Mcphanus
@Mxyzptlk:
Nope it isn't out until the end of next month (27th June)

Is GTA IV out in Japan in Japanese or do stores just import it?
It seems all Nintendo says nowadays is "blah blah bullshit excuse blah"
Monte's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 13:14
Monte
Allow me to translate Nintendo's reasons: "FUCK Europe!"
Necros's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 13:41
Necros
I think this just proves that Nintendo of Europe is really inefficient at translating and putting out games. Don't take this as a fanboyish comment, but I highly doubt Nintendo would like to delay a big money maker like Brawl from the February/March release dates other territories got, when there was tons of hype to sell more copies of the game. It just reeks of them not having enough resources. In which case, I would tell them to get more resources, but I'm sure that they're saving money for themselves somewhere along the way.
Kaspar's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 13:49
Kaspar
Wow, translating all the menus must be hard as shit.

FUCK YOU, NINTENDO! FUCK YOU!
Kaspar's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 13:52
Kaspar
Wow, translating all the menus must be tough as shit.

FUCK YOU, NINTENDO! FUCK YOU!




*I posted this comment before, where the hell did it go?*
Haxan's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:00
Haxan
Wow! Now that they say it, it just seems so obvious! I can't believe it's coming out in Europe this year even. What, with all of the voice-acting that's contained within the SubSpace Emissary. That's a lot of translating!
Face's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:00
Face
Why are we still talking about this?
A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:04
A New Challenger
I kinda missed the option to change the language to Japanese in Brawl, that was awesome in Melee because of all the little changes it made. With all the stuff filling the two layers of the DVD though, I guess that had to go.
3r0t1c n3rd's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:12
3r0t1c n3rd
"and the time frame is slowly decreasing"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*Wipes of tear* Good one.
Yuphrum's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:28
Yuphrum
Oh god, I've reached the point now where I couldnt care less about this game after having to wait so f*cking long for it.
David Quinn Carder's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:40
David Quinn Carder
@ Necros

As someone who has worked on translating and subtitling DVDs, I can tell you that their reasoning is absolute horseshit. Any decent translation team coupled with QA testers (and really, there shouldn't be much of any QA needed for this, as the code is already all there and working) should have this finished up in no time. Not to mention, they knew they were going to release worldwide from the beginning, so they had a huge head-start.

I'm a long-time Nintendo fan but I'm getting really fed up with this kind of dishonesty. When they are being honest, they're being irrational. They make some great games, but there's always some ass-backwards Nintendo bullshit limitation or mucked up "feature" that ruins some aspect of the game for me. More than either of the other two console companies, it seems like the people making the big decisions at Nintendo do not play games themselves and are out of touch. That might be why they do so well with hitherto non-gamers.
Tamz's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 14:57
Tamz
I did not read the post, therefore I don't know the excuse they gave because I don't care, the delay was unacceptable and Nintendo can go f*** themselves.
Murumasa123's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 15:15
Murumasa123
How the hell have we offended them for god sake!
Did some europeans kick them in the crotch when they were young or something? Has a frenchman been peein in their cerial?!
Fuck em they lost atleast one sale of brawl for me (not that it matters thanks to those casual cunts who will buy enough despite the wait). There is nthing we can do but post on Indie Gaming sites about how much of a big CUNT they all are in the vein hope one will look feel ashamed and right this wrong.
More likely if they do see this they'll just cackle and jump in the money pile with the other exects and four hookers apiece...
Shane86's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 15:27
Shane86
I've played the game in Europe using a freeloader and I understand it perfectly, English is a universal language.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 15:40
Syn
So...they want to make Link grunt in an English accent? Who would even notice? They should just leave all the english dialogue (god knows theres tons of it) in and just translate the menus.
KMCC's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 16:09
KMCC
But will the online actually work for you guys? Nah, it won't.

Why aren't they fixing that??
Dende-snail's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 16:23
Dende-snail
I guess they mixed up the Pokemons names...
Paroxysm's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 16:32
Paroxysm
Falcon Poinçon!
Luigi takes over's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 16:44
Luigi takes over
Super Smash Bros Fisticuffs is going to rock europe
Monte's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 16:48
Monte
the day after Brawl's american release:

Sakurai: Congrats team, it was a hell of a release, now lets go home
employee: uh, sir? what about the european release
Sakurai: Euro-what? oh right that... uh, err... ok, um ya, why don't you get right on that. Ok, everyone else, let's get outta here.
(lights go out and employee is left alone)
Employeer: ...
Moltar's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 17:01
Moltar
Europe? Where's that?
Morrius's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 17:02
Morrius
"Every time you go through localisation you have to (explanation of localisation process) and thats why it takes us fifty times longer to localise our games for European than everyone else"

We got Wii Fit first though... Shame it looks about as exciting as solitary confinement.
Chilly's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 18:37
Chilly
Simple. Release brawl in english speaking countries at same time then do bloody "european, lets all speak different languages" Why the hell should aussies and brits have to wait for something that america gets we speak the same language! (about 95% anyway).

*Goes to sleep ranting*
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 18:59
Jonathan Holmes
Europe got WiiFit, Mario Kart Wii, and now Dr Mario Wii before the USA did.

Plus, you're money is actually worth something. I went to London last year, and you know how much a hamburger cost in American dollars?

$20.

STOP BITCHING, YOU LUCKY LIMEY BASTARDS.
BlackSunEmpire's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 19:33
BlackSunEmpire
I'll believe that they intend to improve when I see it.

If they could get their games out within a few weeks, I'm sure they would have a lot more people wanting to buy them. As it is, they sell poorly 6 months after the hype and online experience has died, and it reinforces their idea that it's not worth it.

Fuck you Nintendo.
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 21:03
hpv
Adding and checking all of those U's takes time, guys. Valuable time that Reggie and the gang could better use rolling around in money.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/19/2008 21:24
Shin Oni
Oh crap, I forgot that Brawl wasn't out in Europe.

oh well. At this point, people either have it with a modded system or just don't care about this shit.
yiggs's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/20/2008 00:43
yiggs
hahaha, Translating english to english takes 6 months?

Maybe Translating to French/German etc does.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/20/2008 00:49
mistic
Wait, What?

timeframe is decreasing?

he must not be living in Europe... Cause it sure feels like its getting longer and longer...
Puppy Licks's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/20/2008 02:12
Puppy Licks
surprising nobody's mentioned rock band yet, since us here in australia are probably getting it a full year late by the looks of it.
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/20/2008 03:35
Dyson
Oy vey yourself. I told you before that it takes at least three months to localize a title from English to UK English, or vice versa. And those three months are for shitty sports titles that barely have text. A longer, text heavy title will have almost double the localization time -- which is about six months.

So, enough of the complaining. If you UK fuckers used the same English as the US, then we wouldn't have this problem.
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