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Mario Picross is amazing if you like 2D Picross games! But beware: the amount of Mario-related puzzles in it is shockingly low.
I wish all companies would lower the prices of digital downloads. There's no way bandwidth costs as much as running a factory to press discs, write info on em, package them, air transport then ground transport them. There's just absolutely no way.
To be fair, every other digital retailer, including Steam, also asks full price for new releases. But yeah, it should be lower than retail.
Not like anyone else is passing the savings on to their customers. Digital copies of Bethesda, Activision, EA, Capcom and 2K games are all full retail price. Plus digital copies often take longer to lower in price than retail copies. Skyrim is still $60 on steam but you can buy the boxed copy at a retailers online for $40
It's kind of sad how much publishers have been able to screw over their consumers without having to release boxed versions of games and go through a retail outlet with this generation of gaming with things like price control and DLC being ways publishers can get more money out of a consumer without passing on any of the savings to them.
It's kind of sad how much publishers have been able to screw over their consumers without having to release boxed versions of games and go through a retail outlet with this generation of gaming with things like price control and DLC being ways publishers can get more money out of a consumer without passing on any of the savings to them.
What Script said. It's not a Nintendo problem, it's an industry problem. They just sell it at the RRP on digital stores as the publisher controls the price while other stores are trying to undercut each other.
At least for PC there's a lot of competition from other digital retailers now, but I do fear for the console "full game" digital experience. Even if they were the same price, I'd still go for the physical copy I can keep or resell.
At least for PC there's a lot of competition from other digital retailers now, but I do fear for the console "full game" digital experience. Even if they were the same price, I'd still go for the physical copy I can keep or resell.
Nintendo are just a bunch of toy makers trying out this big scary digital world.
I am really looking forward to the utter disaster that the Nintendo Network is gonna be.
I am really looking forward to the utter disaster that the Nintendo Network is gonna be.
in all fairness, it's pretty rare to see Nintendo-published titles on sale anyway. When they are, it tends to be over a year later.. sometimes two.
I'm a huge fan of Steam so I'm already used to the pros and cons of digital distribution, and to me the pros of having it ready to go at any time and without having to carry anything extra outweighs getting a plastic case that i will put on a shelf and never touch again until i move.(i store my game cards all together in one(well two) of those penguin cases)
I'm a huge fan of Steam so I'm already used to the pros and cons of digital distribution, and to me the pros of having it ready to go at any time and without having to carry anything extra outweighs getting a plastic case that i will put on a shelf and never touch again until i move.(i store my game cards all together in one(well two) of those penguin cases)
I know I saw it full price in the Australian eShop, but I checked ours and it had no price listed. Guess I was being a bit optimistic. :<
@tekbunny actually bandwidth has nothing to do with cost for digital releases except for first party releases where the product is released by the company that owns the distribution system (Such as Origin for EA, Steam for Valve, XBL for Microsoft, ect ect.) since most DD systems allow a person to download the same game any number of times (though DRM may prevent them from actually RUNNING the game) no publisher would agree to a per bandwidth usage cost.
Steam takes a flat percentage of each sale. which according to people I've talked to who have worked with steam is significantly lower than the amount a retail outlet takes as a discounted price when ordering a shipment of games (E.G. a retailer may ask for 30-35% discount off of the wholesale price for a large bulk shipment while Steam may only take 15-20% off each sale) Plus retailers can sometimes return large portions of their product and get some money back if the game doesn't sell (which is why you can't count "X Game has shipped 1 million copies!" as being "X game has SOLD 1 million copies") . This is a double whammy because then the publisher is out the cost of those printed and shipped games, but they didn't make any money on them. While digital distribution only takes money out when the sale occurs.
Steam takes a flat percentage of each sale. which according to people I've talked to who have worked with steam is significantly lower than the amount a retail outlet takes as a discounted price when ordering a shipment of games (E.G. a retailer may ask for 30-35% discount off of the wholesale price for a large bulk shipment while Steam may only take 15-20% off each sale) Plus retailers can sometimes return large portions of their product and get some money back if the game doesn't sell (which is why you can't count "X Game has shipped 1 million copies!" as being "X game has SOLD 1 million copies") . This is a double whammy because then the publisher is out the cost of those printed and shipped games, but they didn't make any money on them. While digital distribution only takes money out when the sale occurs.
As a soon-to-be 3DS XL owner, should I wait until Nintendo has their unified account in place before I buy downloadable content? I want my content tied to an account, not hardware.
@billy
That you can only have by paying ridiculous rates on undersized cards.
Just sayin...
And then there was that one game sold in 2 pieces that added up cost the same as the full retail version.
Like others have said, this is something no one is truly innocent of.
That you can only have by paying ridiculous rates on undersized cards.
Just sayin...
And then there was that one game sold in 2 pieces that added up cost the same as the full retail version.
Like others have said, this is something no one is truly innocent of.
Well NewEgg was doing a pre-order of this last month for $30 with free shipping (deals over now) so yeah I'd say retail is the way to go.
@billyballs, Ridiculous priced memory cards makes your argument invalid. The slight discount mostly applied to 1st party games, most 3rd party games are full retail. And I bought hot shots golf believing in that discount but saw it new at gamestop for 10 bucks cheaper a few days later, just saying..
Honestly, I implore anyone looking to buy this game to look for a good deal, below the full price, and only buy the physical copy. Show Nintendo that their weird sense of "convenience" doesn't really work, as the that convenience is only for the company and not the customer.
@patrick,ronin
Well I was merely pointing to the fact you get a discount, not really taking other things into account. I'm all digital on vita, and most of my purchases are day one. I've gotten a 10% or close discount on every full vita game I've bought, which has nearly paid for my 32gb card already. So... there you go. Also, if you don't care either way on format, shop wisely. Don't complain if you miss a good deal.
Well I was merely pointing to the fact you get a discount, not really taking other things into account. I'm all digital on vita, and most of my purchases are day one. I've gotten a 10% or close discount on every full vita game I've bought, which has nearly paid for my 32gb card already. So... there you go. Also, if you don't care either way on format, shop wisely. Don't complain if you miss a good deal.
@Raby
THIS...
speak with your wallets, not with your keyboards.
Any game with launch day DLC is a no buy from me until the 'goty' edition drops down to $40... sure I'm late to the party, but I don't have time to play that much anyways... Instead of bitching about how much it sucks, I just either don't buy it, or wait till it's 'worth it' to me.
THIS...
speak with your wallets, not with your keyboards.
Any game with launch day DLC is a no buy from me until the 'goty' edition drops down to $40... sure I'm late to the party, but I don't have time to play that much anyways... Instead of bitching about how much it sucks, I just either don't buy it, or wait till it's 'worth it' to me.
So you're bitching about paying $40 for a $40 game...
I suppose Steam rips people off by charging retail games at the full $59.99 as well? And no, I don't want to hear the "sales" argument. The point is they're initially being sold at full price. How's that not a rip-off and this is?
I suppose Steam rips people off by charging retail games at the full $59.99 as well? And no, I don't want to hear the "sales" argument. The point is they're initially being sold at full price. How's that not a rip-off and this is?
Was the entire internet asleep the week that Nintendo explained their reasoning behind this?
Nintendo has already said it's to keep a healthy relationship with retailers rather than undercutting them, a problem threatening retailers already with services like Steam. This is also why Nintendo is creating the specific digital code cards per game for retailers to sell, and discount below MSRP, at their own discretion.
You can still get the digital version for $19.99 down the road, you just have to wait for the retailers to discount their NSMB2 digital cards just as you would have to wait until they discount their physical carts.
I understand the argument is "well we aren't getting a box so it should be cheaper," and while in practice that should be true, it's better for the industry in the long run to not cut out and kill off brick and mortar retailers, otherwise we will be stuck in a market with less flexible prices outside of Steam.
Have you seen how much Microsoft is trying to charge for 4-year-old full games on the XBOX LIVE Marketplace? It is disgusting.
Nintendo has already said it's to keep a healthy relationship with retailers rather than undercutting them, a problem threatening retailers already with services like Steam. This is also why Nintendo is creating the specific digital code cards per game for retailers to sell, and discount below MSRP, at their own discretion.
You can still get the digital version for $19.99 down the road, you just have to wait for the retailers to discount their NSMB2 digital cards just as you would have to wait until they discount their physical carts.
I understand the argument is "well we aren't getting a box so it should be cheaper," and while in practice that should be true, it's better for the industry in the long run to not cut out and kill off brick and mortar retailers, otherwise we will be stuck in a market with less flexible prices outside of Steam.
Have you seen how much Microsoft is trying to charge for 4-year-old full games on the XBOX LIVE Marketplace? It is disgusting.
Sweet, $40 discount on NSMB2! Glad I bought a US one instead of an Aussie one. And such convenience!
I happily will pay full price for this game because it will bring the joy i require.
Who gives a fuck . Gamers are shit in 2012.
Who gives a fuck . Gamers are shit in 2012.
Excuse me, but where are the deals on the physical version in the states? I want digital because I don't wanna deal with fucking carts anymore. I bought a 16gb SD card to throw into my 3DS XL and I'm planning on buying all nintendo games digitally, I must not be in the super secret saver club, but I don't remember a nintendo game I did not pay full price for, ever.
I'm staying away from new games on digital download. I'm not paying full price for a game that could be deleted and may not be playable with a console update afterwards. That has happened with a lot of Xbox Live games. I mean it's great to have a Streets of Rage trilogy on Live, but the SoR2 I purchased a few years back no longer works. I want my money back you thieves! Anyway that's M$, nintendo usually aren't dicks about that situation, but I do think it's lame that people can no longer buy R-Type on the Virtual Console. Someone scoop up that Irem license and bring those games back (along with Metal Storm)!
I love how everyone is throwing a fit over this, but 360 games on demand are almost always more expensive than the box copy, and they almost never come out as a digital offering on launch day. I mean, it sucks that Nintendo felt they had to charge a premium price for digital distribution, but they are not the only ones.
Why the fuck are people demanding discount on launch? Why would Nintendo undermine the distributors that allowed them to get where they got through their visibility? Why don't people simply go out and buy the freaking thing at a discount? Why are people cheering for Nintendo's eventual failure on the digital front and as an enterprise? There are people living around the globe that have no access to physical copies discounts and will make good use of the convenience of gaining instant access at good price for the software. Too much whining...
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