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Nintendo confirms game-break bug in Skyward Sword photo

Oh, Nintendo!

Remember the cannon room glitch in Twilight Princess that prevented players from progressing? What are the odds that there would also be a game-breaking bug in Skyward Sword? Does this make it a trend now? Will future home console Zeldas carry on this new tradition?

The exact requirements to trigger the glitch were unknown until Nintendo responded to emails from inquisitive fans. I'm going to post the details after the jump because it's a late-game occurrence and there are some slight story spoilers. Here's a spoiler-free version: When it comes time to assemble the three-piece "thing" to get the ultimate "whoosit," leave the trip to the desert for last.

Hopefully Nintendo finds an appropriate fix soon. You might have to send your disc in for a swap if the glitch happens to you. Lament the lack of proper patching.

Nintendo Addresses the Skyward Sword Game-Breaking Glitch [Zelda Informer]

Below is the Nintendo response in its entirety. It contains spoilers!

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We have been made aware of the issue that results in being unable to progress in the Song of the Hero quest. If the game has been saved after completing the sequence of events, it will no longer be possible to proceed through the game on that save file. The only options at that point are to either start the game over or to use an earlier save file to continue.

The situation is caused by performing the following sequence of events during the Song of the Hero quest:

1. At the beginning of the quest, go to Lanayru Desert to retrieve the song of the Thunder Dragon.

2. In the Lanayru Mine, speak with Golo the Goron.

3. Complete the Thunder Dragon's event, and receive his song.

4. Before heading to the forest or volcano regions, speak with Golo in the mine again.

5. At this point, the forest and volcano events will no longer occur, making it impossible to continue.

Solutions:

- This issue WILL NOT OCCUR if the Fire and Water Dragon songs have already been collected before collecting the Thunder Dragon's song. Talking to Golo in the Lanayru Caves will also NOT trigger this issue.

- If the game has been saved after completing the sequence of events, it will no longer be possible to proceed through the game on that save file. The only options at that point are to either start the game over or to use an earlier save file to continue.

I wish I had a better answer, but I'm afraid there currently is no other fix available. I can assure, however, that we are documenting all feedback we receive on this issue. Thank you for your patience and support.

Sincerely,
Sharon Matheny








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Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:19
Syn
HOW DO YOU READ THIS? THERE'S NO PICTURES!
BoomingEchoes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:21
BoomingEchoes
That sucks.. I never even knew about the bug in Twilight Princess till now. I hope they work out a fix for those who've been set back by this soon.
qlum's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:23
qlum
sometimes being able to patch a game is a necessity
GameQueen's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:24
GameQueen
Totally saving that header image! Also since I don't want to read any spoilers (currently playing this game and loving it)... I'll have to come back to this.

Hopefully I don't encounter such a glitch.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:25
The Silent Protagonist
Lefou I'm afraid I've been thinking.

A dangerous pastime, I know.
Janklogs's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:30
Janklogs
I'd like to thank you all for coming to my wedding. But first, I gotta go in there and...**** the girl. >:3
hanowyoucantseeme's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:31
hanowyoucantseeme
Lol I love when they say there's nothing they can do to fix it but then say:

"I can assure, however, that we are documenting all feedback we receive on this issue."


Its like The spaces and weight they put on each word and spacing will make a difference to people who've put in serious time to another broken Zelda game.

I hope they start to patch games rather than sending a disc in for a swap.
Leonardo Bandeira's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:38
Leonardo Bandeira
now everyone has something to thrash about Skyward Sword... but this problem will never appear to 99% of the players.
Street Flighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:40
Street Flighter
I'm right at this bit, so thanks for the heads-up. Saved me a few hours there.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:41
PappaDukes
What's all this hoolabaloo about sending your physical disk in to Nintendo for a fix? Haven't they heard of the internet!?
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:42
Mr Andy Dixon
"Lament the lack of proper patching."

Yep. Say what you will about the current gen's reliance on release-and-patch games, sometimes you really, really need to have that ability.
Scissors's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:43
Scissors
Can anyone give me a spoiler free solution to avoid this.

I never even knew Twilight Princess had a glitch, is this like the Other M glitch where you have to go against the natural progression of the game to encounter it?
GoofierBrute's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:43
GoofierBrute
Huh I didn't have this problem when I was playing through it. Maybe I'll encounter it on my second play through.
AeriusAstrum's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:43
AeriusAstrum
it's a testament to Nintendo that when a single bug appears in one of their games it's huge news.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:44
Syn
@Scissors: Apparently you glossed over this in the article, so here it is again: "Here's a spoiler-free version: When it comes time to assemble the three-piece "thing" to get the ultimate "whoosit," leave the trip to the desert for last."
VGFreak1225's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:47
VGFreak1225
The Wii's lack of patching is a double edged sword. On one had, developers have to make sure that their games are FINISHED before they go gold. Sadly, if something seemingly insignificant like this does go wrong, they're screwed, save the enactment of a recall. Hopefully Nintendo might be able to throw in an extra reward for this, like how Activision sent out guitar faceplates after they recalled the Wii version of Guitar Hero III.
Danielzilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:48
Danielzilla
Finally, Skyward Sword is as good as Skyrim.
El Conrado's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:49
El Conrado
For anyone that has played this art already, how common/simple is it to reproduce this sequence of events?

The Twilight Princess glitch was very rare.
Dhaos's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:50
Dhaos
So not one play tester did the quest in that order? Strange
llort het's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:53
llort het
Honestly, I'd be willing to deal with the rare game breaking bug if it meant saving the entire galaxy load full of bullshit that the internet has brought to game consoles. Honestly, a good solution to situations like this is what Ubisoft did with Prince of Persia: the Forgotten Sands, where the game keeps a hidden backup save a couple hours back, so if the data gets corrupted or you get stuck in an inescapable room, you lose some progress, but you can fall back on an old save.
Tony Ponce's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:53
Tony Ponce
@El Conrado

It's very simple to do. The guy you talk to is literally right by the door. The temptation to trigger a convo is strong.
Neroisonfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:54
Neroisonfire
Dammit Nintendo. Stop being dumb.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:55
Chris Carter
Can anyone confirm if this is the "flames" part, or later? I can't really tell even reading it.
flintmech's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 17:59
flintmech
@Magnalon

No, after.

@El Conrado:

Tough to say. It's rather simple to pull off and not exactly out-of-the-way but I also don't imagine accidentally tripping it will turn out to be very common.
GRiVEN's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:00
GRiVEN
Time to make a back up save. I'm coming up to this part.

How about patch support already, Nintendo? Jesus.
El Conrado's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:02
El Conrado
VGFreak1225
"The Wii's lack of patching is a double edged sword."

Is there an actual physical reason that Wii games don't get patched?

Hackers seem do it all the time.

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@Tony Ponce

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
BrainWasherAttendent's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:06
BrainWasherAttendent
I prefer the simplicity of older consoles. Game breaking bugs is nothing new, and easily avoidable.

Buggy game releases that needs 12 patches afterwards is somehow better to this generation? LOL

Ah Skyward Sword, GOTY that thousands of douchers won't play because they have a stick up their ass. Already on my Hero Mode and loving it.
Forsakeneyes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:08
Forsakeneyes
@El Conrado
Well I would say because of the lack of internal storage and because Nintendo's internet-strategy is lackluster at best. Storing patches on SD-cards seems way too flaky.
sockbat25's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:10
sockbat25
I use Goddess Plumes in all of my DECORATING!!!
Forsakeneyes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:11
Forsakeneyes
@BrainWasherAttendent
Yes, yes we know already. We're infinitely inferior for disregarding motion controls and it's our loss and whatnot.
Talking Bidoof's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:12
Talking Bidoof
@AeriusAstrum
That is because literally every other company's system has the ability to fix these bugs once anyone finds them, and then they stop being news. If you find one on a Nintendo system, however...

Also, I did the Thunder Dragon first, and I cannot believe I managed to dodge this. So relieved. And on that note, how is this even a thing? It seems like such a roundabout way of deactivating the other quests.
El Conrado's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:14
El Conrado
@Forsakeneyes

For massive content updates? Sure, 512MB of internal memory is paltry.

But for the occasional killer bug fix? That stuff is usually very, very small. The save data of some games is bigger.

But on the other hand, your point about their online infrastructure is very valid.
DrNo0's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:16
DrNo0
I didnt even know there was one in TP hope I never run into any of them
AriesSiren's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:20
AriesSiren
man im in the desert now, bout 23 hours in, and apparently im about to meet the goron. thank god i saved when i did. that was a close call, i always talk to the NPCs and would have done the dragon quest first as its right there.
RchardNixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:22
RchardNixon
Holy shit, the only thing I didn't do was step 4. Dodged a bullet there.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:24
KingSigy
This is honestly very hard to get. If you land in Lanayru first, the game doesn't even help you find the Thunder Dragon. I went there first and I figured you couldn't even progress.

Still, this is unfortunate for people who stuck it out. I'd hate to restart after 35 hours of gameplay.
Pringao's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:27
Pringao
This is Metroid Other M all over again. Except I actually care about finishing this game. If this happens to me I'm going to put my head on a fish bowl and scream for hours.

I just can't believe that Nintendo EAD developed this for five years and didn't spot this bug. Un-fucking-believable.
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:27
Scuffles
@Scissors

lol I wouldn't consider walking back to a save point after finisheing a boss battle even if it meant back tracking a little to be "unnatural".

Specially if that boss happened to have given me particular trouble and there is no telling when the next save point might show up :P

Course I have never played OtherM and probably won't in the foreseeable future.

......... On a side note .... I never really understood why Nintendo didn't create a savegame patcher for these kind of things. It would be small, simply need to be able to detect that the issue it was going to fix was in fact an issue and then change a few bits around. It would be something any user could run themselves..... just make it a free "app" in the Nintendo store...

Anyhow I guess since they can't seem to do that ..... I will just wait for info on where to send my defecto-disk for a replacement.
Scissors's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:37
Scissors
@Syn

Oh, I read spoiler, and immediately dropped to the comments. Probably should have read the rest of the word considering it was hyphened and all Lol.

@Scuffles
It wasn't a boss fight it was just a regular room that when you cleared it the door on the other side opened. It would have been an awkward moment to decide to backtrack, but still it shouldn't have been there.
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:44
Scuffles
@Scissors

Hmm for some reason It had sounded like a boss fight when I read about it (months ago lol), oh well... yeah I guess that would be a little strange/unnatural unless I picked that room to decide to call it a night for gaming :P

Hopefully they are adding similar things to the check list for the QA department.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 18:44
Syn
@Scissors: No sweat, bro
Excel-2011's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 20:10
Excel-2011
The downloadable games on Nintendo's consoles can be patched.
FrankYorkMorgan's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 20:47
FrankYorkMorgan
IT KEEPS HAPPENING!
Dr-Peace's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 21:03
Dr-Peace
Well it sucks that Skyward Sword has a bug at all, for the vast majority (I beat it days ago) the game is entirely bug free.

Like the Twilight Princess bug (which required you to save and quit in a VERY specific room) this bug is quite obscure.

I went to the desert section SECOND (before the volcano) and I never had a problem.

When considering the plot, the forest is the FIRST place you'd logically go considering what you're looking for, and there's NO reason to talk to this particular Goron again after the fact.

You have to go out of your way to get this sequence bug, but it's a shame it exists.
Lionalliance's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 21:16
Lionalliance
That's why patches come in handy.
VitaminShoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 23:27
VitaminShoe
The only game killing bug I ever found was the one where I literally fell asleep while playing TP. Nintendo QA must rock their software is generally spotless.
KirbyMcDope's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 23:31
KirbyMcDope
Thanks for a spoiler free warning, man. I appreciate that.
Burdmayn's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 23:48
Burdmayn
It's regretable that a glitch like this is in the game, but the chance of encountering it is rare. There's no reason for you to go back and talk to that goron, and you have to do it in the right (or should I say wrong) order.
Proxx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/06/2011 23:56
Proxx
Well this didn't happen to me. But when I went into the forest the event didn't trigger! But now the volcano event is happening, so I don't now.
enderx30's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/07/2011 00:41
enderx30
Someone have a link to a better version of that header image?
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