Quantcast
Destructoid Japanator Tomopop Flixist
Dtoid Forums now support TapATalk and ForumRunner on your iOS/Android devices. Whoot.

Nintendo catches, shuts down fan-made Pokemon MMO photo

Nintendo has stretched its legal muscles and shut down a Pokémon fan project MMO, Pokenet, Joystiq is reporting.

The work-in-progress Pokenet was mostly operational at the time that it was shut down, with some 7,000 players logged in to the game. Players were able to catch, evolve, and trade Pokemon across two regions -- Kanto and Johto -- with more to come later. The game was free-to-play, with the developers losing money on hosting running the developers 80 American dollars monthly.

One of the game's programmers, who goes by the name of "Nushio," told Joystiq the team was surprised when Nintendo hit them with a cease and desist in March. The project is not the only Pokémon-inspired MMO out there; it was, however, the only one that was open source and freely handed out the code.

"I'm not sure if that's the reason they attempted to shut us down or not," Nushio said, "We don't know what exactly we did different."

No word on whether the project will continue without the Pokémon branding, but Nushio tells Joystiq that most of the team is "just giving up." 

Nintendo shuts down fan-made Pokemon MMO [Joystiq]








More gaming stories around the web. Got news? Submit yours to tips@destructoid.com



Post a comment! You can also post a photo below:

Comment with Facebook





Click connect and comment instantly!

Comment with Dtoid





New? SIGN UP - it takes 5 seconds

46 comments | showing # 1 to 46
prev next

Budogenkai's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 20:04
Budogenkai
Maybe Nintendo plans on making their own pokemon MMO?

Pfft right.
JDefined's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 20:07
JDefined
It's not the popular decision, but this is clearly copyright infringement. I don't blame Nintendo for doing what they did.

I just hope they only released their code as open source, and not claiming the Nintendo properties were as well.

Okay, buzzkill over. As you were.
huetoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 20:20
huetoid
Now we wait for the standalone servers to begin to pop up. If all the major MMO's can do it, why cant pokemon.

Futile effort Nintento, welcome to the internet.
Rocketmaus's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 20:24
Rocketmaus
Please tell me, that mankind is braindead already! They seriously are surprised that Nintendo is pissed about this?? Sorry, but this makes my brain go puff.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 20:30
MrSadistic
Heh, I remember seeing ads for the game at a few web sites I go to. I was wondering if Nintendo would do something about it.
RudyChan's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 20:32
RudyChan
I remember playing this way back in the day.. When you could barely do anything, like walk outside the starter house. lol. It's a shame, but business is business.
Daniel Wales's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 20:35
Daniel Wales
Nintendo suck for fan made games.
GZTom's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 20:50
GZTom
The one time I could actually get into this game's lobby, I thought it was pretty well done. They needed to get more servers, though.
PixelSith64's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 20:53
PixelSith64
@Karutomaru:

Good idea. Get sued for more than you make.

Starting it back up again would be stupid, as Nintendo already knew about it and is probably monitoring what happens next to see if they do.

I'd like to see their talents invested into something similar but without the Pokemon label. I did go on there once or twice and I was impressed.
Kvb's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 20:54
Kvb
I knew people would make Nintendo out to be the bad guy for this. Are you fucking serious, internet?
No amount of effort and good intentions makes plagiarism legal. And if you're using someone else's property and assets, then yes, you are definitely committing a crime, even if you are losing money committing it.
DCDerekUSA's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 21:02
DCDerekUSA
These guys were just giving people what they want. And people have wanted this for a long time
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 21:03
Corduroy Turtle
Yeah! What Kvb said!

Just take the 3D Dot Game Heroes route! Make an 'homage' and just allow character creation!! That way, your users can commit plagiarism without your help!
TheDirtyHobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 21:04
TheDirtyHobo
@Rocketmaus
I don't think anyone is surprised over the fact this could hapen so much as surprised at the dick move they are pulling on it. The devs aren't making any money on it and are doing it out of pocket and as a tribute. It's not like their stealing some of their market either. Sure, they absolutely have the legal right to do this, but there's not really a good reason besides just being a bunch of jackasses.
Neonie's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 21:07
Neonie
Ya this is actually pretty understandable. I don't really see this as a "OMG BIG BAD COPERATION HURTS TEH LITTLE GUYS." Situation, Nintendo is very active with the pokemon franchise and is still doing a lot with it, so they kind of have every right to shut this down.
A Very Drunk Panda's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 21:13
A Very Drunk Panda
I remember trying this when it was early in the development stage. It was a lot of mind-fuckery with all the weird bugs.
Not entirely surprised by the actions nintendo took towards this, though. I kind of wish they'd release a pokemon MMO of their own, but with the money they're making on the current (mostly) single-player games, I can't blame them.
ProperlyParanoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 21:16
ProperlyParanoid
Makes sense. So Nintendo, why don't you do a Pokémon MMO? (Yeah, right)
Clarke's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 21:26
Clarke
Just call it a Digimon MMO and add "-mon" to the end of all the names.
SpidaMahn's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 21:35
SpidaMahn
Good ole shitty Nintendo.
ShuperShawn's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 21:46
ShuperShawn
Fuck those fucking fuckers. That is all.
Greylocke's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 21:47
Greylocke
@ Clarke: http://digimonbattle.wemade.net/main/main.asp
mudkip5000's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 21:59
mudkip5000
ANGER!
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 22:00
Shadowiii
I've always said that a Pokemon MMO would make millions. The system is already set up perfectly for an MMO.
Hell, if they made one, I'd buy a Wii just to play it. Yes, I'm an adult, and I love me some pokemans.
Elzam's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 22:01
Elzam
It's totally illegal, but that being said, I've said time and time again that if I just got an online version of Pokemon with only trading and the ability to just request duels from one of the thousands on my server? I'd be down.
oldskool's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 22:11
oldskool
Well within their rights to do it, but whoever the first developer is to see a fan-based game and go "Hey, y'know what's a good idea? Coming to work for us so we can all profit off your work instead of us spending money to shut you down & wipe out all the work you did with our IP out of your own pocket" is going to see a major increase in business from me.

Well, besides Valve, they've got enough of my money.
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 22:13
Hcapt
Do you have any idea how dangerous a Free and Open Source Pokemon game is to the franchise as a whole?

If this is the only one that handed out all it's code for free, then this is the one distributing, for all practical purposes, the unlimited, easy, and free ability for all of it's users to make their own pokemon games, with their own regions, gym leaders, elite four challenges, dungeons, etc., and possibly even exact replicas of the games Nintendo tries to sell. It's not simply an easy avenue to piracy; it a route by which a pokemon game could pop up to destroy the relevence of the main series.

Nintendo would have to be nuts to allow gamers to distribute the pokemon games with source code to other gamers for free.

About fan projects - while I appreciate the effort, they are always a waste of time. They are never as good as the original, can never be profitted from, and can and will be shut down if they become good enough to threaten the main series. It is advised that original work be done for two reasons - 1. It helps developers learn how to make good games rather than ride the popularity of a game they mostly copies, and because making original games can lead to something profittable.

Instead of making a pokemon MMO, make an MMORPG that's like pokemon and try to entertain your friends with it. This would not be a pokemon clone. This would simply be an RPG that recognizes what it is about pokemon that attracts so many people, and attempts to make a game to caters to consumers by giving them something that they don't have. Figure out the mechanics of making a successful game rather than finding a game that is successful, and cloning it.

The reason I'm so hard is not that I don't like pokemon MMOs. I actually want a good one pretty badly. I'm being hard because fan projects are like all the not very good pokemon clones, but the fan projects are so identical to the main franchise they become illegal. That is not how one becomes successful in the real world, and anyone with that kind of energy for creation can become successful. They have to learn how to make games that customers find value in, enough value that the game is worthy of purchase, for that potential to be fulfilled. People will not buy a game that is pokemon, except not as good or more questionable or obscure. They would rather buy the original, as they want pokemon, not a knock-off. In this industry, cloning is death, and we should not encourage or side with a point of view that brings commercial developers death. It is not doing these talented fans any favors letting them think their games are a worthwhile endeavor, when what these fan-made games actually do is distract fans from making their free-time passion, game making, into their career.
The Pat Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 22:13
The Pat Man
Whoever I side with depends on if the sprites and code are ripped from the series or if they were made. If the sprites and/or code from the official series were used, then Nintendo has every right. If they didn't and did everything from scratch with no subscriptions or any means of payment for the MMO, then Nintendo are dicks for shutting down something that people worked hard on. It's like they treated this thing as something that would damage franchise sales (which wouldn't because c'mon....... its friggen pokemon).
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 22:23
Hcapt
@ Shadowii - An official pokemon MMO might also kill the franchise, long term.

Something I learned after a while is that many improvements I wish for pokemon would actually hurt it. I thought I wanted more moveslots and larger parties, but then I played a real RPG and found I hated the added complexity. I think I want a pokemon MMO, but I'm not sure what that would do to the franchise. An MMO is very stable and somewhat based on consistency, like any service. Such a philosophy could not create the wii though, as it's customers were quite a bit different than the customers the gamecube served. A service based company is stable, while a product-based company can be (not always is though) a lot more innovative. Nintendo's success is based on being a product based company, and it has been using asymetric values to a service based company. If it were to become a service based company, it would lose the ability to create radical innovations like the wii and the DS, as it would always have to keep its services stability in mind.
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 22:25
Hcapt
I still think I want a real pokemon MMO though, reguardless of knowing why it won't be made and how it conflicts with innovation potential.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 23:25
Jon B
Hcapt - you clearly haven't seen quite how open a lot of the Pokémon ROMs actually are. You can make entire new Pokémon games based off the GBA versions VERY, VERY easily.
Hell, I've even done it myself, it's literally drag and drog stuff.
Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/02/2010 23:43
Harris Hatsworth
At this point this sort of story doesn't surprise me. Nintendo has a long tradition of not liking fan-projects of their stuff. It's not any less stupid than it was 10 years ago but at this point, being surprised by it or thinking you're coming up with new arguments against it makes you look pretty damn foolish.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2010 00:06
Monodi
Well if they made one, they could stop the whole deal. A release for PC would be nuts, on Wii... I am not sure if it could work, and if it does, they NEED to upgrade their online system.
Turbofail's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2010 00:24
Turbofail
When will people realize - You are STEALING their property! It's not yours to own and make a game with, it's theirs. Quit using other peoples hard work and property and stop being surprised when they tell you to fuck off and leave their shit alone.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2010 00:34
Cowboy TTop
Sucks to be them, after all that work. While Nintendo are within their rights to shutdown such a project, its worse that Nintendo are so scared of the net, that they won't do this kind of thing themselves.

You suck, Nintendo.
Joshingo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2010 01:30
Joshingo
@Turbofail Coding an MMO is a LOT of hard work. I don't think its fair to get angry at people who clearly loved the original games and wanted to build an online community around them.
ohno's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2010 01:56
ohno
Good riddance! Those jerks were using all that copyrighted material without permission. Good job Nintendo on busting these CROOKS good!

:\
grayjo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2010 03:53
grayjo
Is fanfiction illegal? By all rights it should be... but I don't see anyone filing injunctions or suing websites that host the stuff all over the place.
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2010 04:40
Strandli
why the hell didn't anyone tell me about this earlier?!
WilliamRLBaker's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2010 04:43
WilliamRLBaker
@Hcapt

Huh fan projects are all ways a waste of time? rightt...Let alone the fact the majority of well made fan projects often surpass the companies offerings, Translations, map packs, texture bundles...ect
Fan projects are not a waste of time, and sadly its likely that Nintendo ceased and desisted them because they had created a vastly superior product then they did which is often the Case with Nintendo since they are no where near the quality they used to be.

Look up Chrono Resurrection Fan projects are not all ways useless,.
Adonai's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2010 06:38
Adonai
Dick move? Nintendon? Noooo, never!
Dunther's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2010 07:51
Dunther
Nice work, Pokémon should be buyed.
sprldr's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2010 11:52
sprldr
I am siding with the fans here.
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2010 12:00
Hcapt
@ WilliamRLBaker - I'm saying that they are a waste of time to save fans from their blindness. I will not look up Chrono Resurrection Fans because I do not care about the exceptions when explaining the truth, as you will not be an exception, and I am talking to you.

It is irrelivant whether the fan products surpass the company offerings, but they will not if the quality of their products is determined by customers. Customers decide quality, and they side with the original work because that is the origin of the quality. It cannot be vastly superior, therefore, unless it attains greater popularity than the original. And fan products are ALWAYS a waste of time that should have been spent on original work, as only original work can become greater than the franchise it was inspired by, and only original work can be used legally and for profit.

It is a waste of time that should be spent making a new game ratheer than copy-pasting an okd one with a couple of new tricks thrown in, and the sooner idies learn this, the sooner quality can come from independent developers. They need to learn to define quality by customers, otherwise, they are wasting their time, and customers reject fan projects of originals as markedly inferior to originals. You also can't sell the works, so you customer base is lower than the original base in spite of giving it our for free. That makes it a waste of time.
Tye The Czar's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2010 13:21
Tye The Czar
Less of a fan-made tribute and more of... I don't know. But these developers seriously had it coming.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/03/2010 13:29
vexed alex
"One of the game's programmers, who goes by the name of "Nushio," told Joystiq the team was surprised when Nintendo hit them with a cease and desist in March. The project is not the only Pokémon-inspired MMO out there; it was, however, the only one that was open source and freely handed out the code."

How could you be surprised? It's Nintendo's legal responsibility to do this. They have to protect their property.
DustyBlue's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/04/2010 01:01
DustyBlue
@Kvb

Yeah, it's the law. That's all your reasoning? By keeping Pokenet online, who's it hurting? Nintendo only does this to protect their rep, I bet.

I would have tried this MMO out, had I known about it. Oh well... Thanks a lot Nintendo, you bad guys.
George Eric Oliver's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/05/2010 21:53
George Eric Oliver
I hate when comapanies shut down things even when they have no intentions of making money off said idea
prev next

Comment with Facebook





Click connect and comment instantly!

Comment with Dtoid





New? SIGN UP - it takes 5 seconds

Comments policy

Destructoid is an open discussion community. You don't need to "audition" to post a comment - just speak your mind. We respect differing opinions on the site, so have at it. Be smart, funny, insightful, clueless, or cute -- but back it up with substance. Keep your cool, keep it fun. We only ask that you act respectfully and above all: don't be a troll and ruin it for everyone else. Don't bring down gamers or we'll, you know, gently shoot you in the face and stuff you into a flaming mailbox. Each comment is your opportuntity to make this community awesomer. Is that even a word?

Avoiding the banhammer only requires common sense: spamming, trolling, racism, NSFW stuff, and other forms of sucking will not be tolerated. If anyone is griefing please report abuse. Be good. Don't suck!