NieR director Yoko Taro is working on a game that undeniably looks sexy in the graphical department, but it seems like too many hi-def visuals can spoil your eyes. Taro recently spoke of his personal experiences at the Tokyo Game Show, describing the various Square Enix trailers he saw and outright claiming that he found Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers "painful" to watch.
"I wanted to see the NieR video at TGS, so I watched the Square Enix booth theater continuously," explains Taro, who apparently isn't allowed to look at his own trailers. "It was looping, so after FFXIII came Crystal Bearers. To be honest, the graphics in Crystal Bearers are hard on the eyes ... Bearers' graphics are well done, I get the feeling that you could call them the highest level for Wii. However, SD graphics are just painful."
"Nintendo should use their profits to make a backwards compatible HD Wii, or release an optional upconverter for the Wii, or give the television industry money to properly handle SD video."
I find certain Wii games hard to look at, but a well-designed title can look pretty good. I personally think a lot of Nintendo's first-party games are actually quite good looking, at least for what they are. What do you think, though? Do you find Wii titles hard on the eyes, or is that a complaint for the graphic whores only?
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8:30 PM on 10.06.2009
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Tell that to No More Heroes, or any PS2 action title: all of which are better than anything the 360/PS3 has to offer so far.
I think the NieR Director is just bitter that the game looks like a half-rate Devil May Cry with a transvestite.
There's a fair share of great looking Wii Titles: Muramasa, Mario Galaxy, Metroid, Zelda, RE4, Little King's Story.
Oh wait.. what I meant to say is.. that guy is a graphics whore.
I mean seriously how many shitty looking PC indie games are amazing?
It didn't effect the fun of the game but it was hard on the eyes going from a first party PS3 game down to a first party Wii game.
If you happen to be one of those people who delude themselves into thinking an SD feed will burn your retinas after viewing almighty high-definition... shut it. That's nonsense. Stop spreading retard all over the place.
I'm a paying customer who owns a Wii, and I do not care at all that I'm getting SD graphics on my HD TV. That does not mean I like my games ugly, Mr. Yoko Taro, it just means that I can't really tell are appreciate the difference between HD and SD. Now instead of making beautiful games about transvestites in HD, why don't developers make a game that I can actually play with other people without embarrassing myself, and forget about the things that I, the paying Wii-owning customer, have no interest in.
On the guy's statement, it was, at the very least, tremendously unpolite towards his own company colleagues and Nintendo as a whole. Yeah, an HD Wii would probably be great, but there's a hundred better ways to express this point. HOWEVER, the profits point is very well taken. The whole "we depend solely on videogames to keep afloat" talk has grown very bullshitty as of now. I always supported Nintendo, as I still do, but it aches giving them money(lots of it, given their profit margin) that looks like is being absolutely NOT reinvested on my future purchases from the company.
Just think about that for a second.
Does he really think Neir is a title with any potential to travel by word of mouth? I don't think I know a single person who would admit to owning Neir, so his game has no hope of traveling by word of mouth. And he has no comprehension of how to make a game that sells, judging from the fact that he thinks the Wii needs HD. He simply lacks any appeciation of the art of being a salesman.
I'll try it sometime.
But the Wii games i've played on my plasma tv: Muramasa & Wii Sports Resort, both look pretty good.
I recently bought a LCD TV and let me tell you, for someone like me, used to a 29" phat TV, that was like seeing heaven, all those textures and details suddenly appeared before my eyes.
PS: I bet Hideki Kamiya doesn't like the Wii.
Although I understand his argument, its a non issue to me. But then again, I play my Wii on a SDTV.
And I never heard of Nier before.
As such, from a design point of view, a lot of games look better on Wii. Look at SMG for example, and compare it to, say, Ratchet and Clank. There's really not that much difference in terms of graphical quality, because SMG is styled really damn well.
I'm spoiled right now while playing Muramasa: The Demon Blade so I'll take my leave.
Yes, Nintendo is slacking in the graphics department, but hey. How many Nintendo AAA titles would benefit from realism anyway? Metroid Prime? MAYBE Zelda? It would be nifty if Nintendo would go ahead and make motions towards HD, but I'm not going to insult them for NOT doing it. Especially given the number of consoles they're selling...the HD tech-whores are definitely a minority.
P.S. If you want an SD game to look good on an HDTV, buy a Samsung or something with a good upscale engine.
Actually, the advent of 3D gaming was in many ways a very depressing time for me. All the controls landed me in death chasms by accident, there very few fully 3D games, all of which were very ugly, and the collectithons like Banjo Kazooie left me stuck clueless on the first level.
I believe that many people who own an HD TV own it simply because they have become standardized and cheap, while SD TVs have become less convenient due to the bulk non-flatscreen displays have. I myself don't notice much difference. And if you are using the standard cables that come with the Xbox 360 or the PS3, you won't notice the difference either; both Microsoft and Sony reverted back to supplying SD cables with their systems, which makes HD graphics irrelivent for every customer that doesn't know any better. Which according to one of the recent articles (within the last 2 months), is more than half the gamers that played Gears of War 2.
i will drop my two cents tho and be part of the lame-dom.
of course gaming in sd is not the end of the world, and there are plenty of beautifully designed games on the wii. that said, it would be nice if the wii output hd like the other two consoles so we could enjoy super-crisp visuals on current tvs.
there is a very noticeable difference in picture quality and its comparable to the difference between vhs and dvd, or dvd and blu-ray. if u dont believe that then i must assume that u own a wii and a sd tv, or a wii and an hd tv (and have nothing to compare it to). thats your choice and theres nothing wrong with that. that used to be my setup.
i have a wii and a 360 and play both regularly on a large hd tv, the 360's video is simply much clearer and it would be awesome if games like mario galaxy, zelda, eledees etc. could be played with the same level of clarity.
haha, i guess im now a graphics whore for posting this comment. oh well :S
Sure, the *gameplay* can still be decent with shoddy graphics. But oftentimes, it can ruin the atmosphere, which is just as important.
Can anyone say that Call of Duty 4 for instance would have been as good with PS2 graphics???
http://www.i4u.com/article26220.html
Look. It's not like HDTV is even rare or special anymore.
The game has changed, and Nintendo are scrubbing the visual barrel. There's a reason why all their games feature simplistic graphics, so that they can't worry about graphics and using new 3D tech. While this is fine, gamers require a certain degree of quality in the 21st century. I too was a fool who bought their bs excuses, but no more. 360 and PS3 are setting the display standard of HD, and for Nintendo to drop this one is embarassing. You'd have thought Nintendo would have learned from, the GC lacking behind and also lacking true online, no hard drive etc etc.
Sure, some Wii games look cool, but if you are a Wii developer, its already hard enough to sell your games. Nintendo, you can't always expect to be right about everything, but it seems many just take their spiel at face value.
Art direction and design counts more on Wii, but still can't find the awfulness of some games.
I also agree, that the new Wii FF game looks like a lot of fun, more so than even FFXIII. Why can't the main FF games get some of that too?
There is a huge majority of "normal people" who DON'T have HD TV's yet.
Surely there is no real problem setting your console's abilities to match the majority of your market? Right?
Now, i dislike SD, only because I've been spoiled by HD, If you watch a film on Sky HD, then flip to the same SD channel, it's REALLY noticable, but not painful.
i think a lot of us have been spoiled by upscalers too, my friend is debating the HD TV purchase, but watches a DVD on my PS3 and HD TV, and says that it looks the same as a blu-ray, can't tell the difference, (i can) that is until I show him a DVD on a DVD player plugged into the HD TV, no upscaler = horrible.
i LOVE the upscaler on PlayTV - that update was the fucking bollocks! Now all my TV, even recorded TV, looks not far off blu-ray quality, but not quite. I still love's me those Blu-rays that lovefilm keep sending.
HD is better, it's a step in the right direction, but it's not essential.
(unless you're playing one of those games with tiny type designed only to be readable on HD, my buddy has trouble with some games because of that, about time he bought an HD TV to go with that PS3 methinks)
PLUS FFXIII is really to good graphically and gameplay wise has not differntiated itself from the rest of the FF games, and it is more like a cheep USA MMO.