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They really know what they are doing when it comes to consumer electronics so I am extremely excited to see what they come up with. I see them more as a Nintendo in terms of the competition because they went off and did their own thing with the Wii and it did brilliantly, but it was really in a whole different class than the PS3 and 360 and so cannot be said to be in direct competition. I see Apple's foray into this realm being similar--not trying to out do the big boys in terms of graphics and such but offering some other synergy of elements that has a tremendously broad appeal not unlike the iPod, iPhone, and iPad. Should be awesome to see. I remember what people thought about Steam way back when....
dont know how to use a computer or turn on a radio or tv? let apple do it all for you with the new Apple Bushel Box. it chooses what you watch, listen to, read, play, and even think! at only 2000$ for a 300mhz 1gb ram machine with camera to take pictures for you.
now you will no longer need to leave your house. cause it does everything!
now you will no longer need to leave your house. cause it does everything!
Gabe Newell: stop looking at the fruit of sin as something good and go make a good linux version of steam.
*looks at Apple's abysmal support and pursuit of games across all of their hardware platforms* Yeah good luck with that.
soon you will be able to use all your stupid worthless apps in the comfort of your own home. on your TV.
@OneRed:
We don't cling to closed platforms. Companies that make closed platforms cling to closed platforms, because if successful they can make tons of money, much more than sharing the pie from an open platform. They can also create a brand loyalty that can be further milked (like the "status" of Apple, Sony, Nintendo, or whatever.)
And those companies are willing to funnel large sums of money and wield larger hammers of influence to create and push that platform to dominance. Enough to knock others out of the game.
Look at Blu-Ray versus HD-DVD versus DVD. DVD was a profitable format, but the pie was cut into a lot of pieces. So there was a battle between the new formats, started years earlier than it needed to be and costing everyone involved large sums of money, for the simple reason that the companies involved felt that the one that won the war would be guaranteed large sums of money and influence for years to come.
We don't cling to closed platforms. Companies that make closed platforms cling to closed platforms, because if successful they can make tons of money, much more than sharing the pie from an open platform. They can also create a brand loyalty that can be further milked (like the "status" of Apple, Sony, Nintendo, or whatever.)
And those companies are willing to funnel large sums of money and wield larger hammers of influence to create and push that platform to dominance. Enough to knock others out of the game.
Look at Blu-Ray versus HD-DVD versus DVD. DVD was a profitable format, but the pie was cut into a lot of pieces. So there was a battle between the new formats, started years earlier than it needed to be and costing everyone involved large sums of money, for the simple reason that the companies involved felt that the one that won the war would be guaranteed large sums of money and influence for years to come.
'Newell expressed concern that this closed attitude would see more companies applying a "console model" to lock out the competition and keep everything gated.'
Wait what? Isn't that similar to what Steam does?
Wait what? Isn't that similar to what Steam does?
A future where console generations are every year? Yeah, that'll be fun. If consoles die, which they probably will after next gen, I'd prefer everything to just be playable on PC.
I'm getting sick and damn tired of these developers claiming a company is going to make an end-all gaming console.
IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
I'm done with this shit. Is it me or do game devs and publishers not understand the market they're in... at all?
I'm guessing many of the people ignoring the subject and instead throwing mud at Steam have never registered games purchased elsewhere on Steam...
I wouldn't be surprised if Apple end up integrating their iTV with a service like Onlive for big screen gaming..or even end up buying someone like Onlive
Pippin is what happens when there's no Steve Jobs at Apple. Apple would have to go a long, long way to compete with the established crew. FWIW, MS' foray into consoles was a hardware venture, as they'd been in the game business for many years already.
Apple is stable, solid, and good quality... Better than Shady and wonky SONY...
phuckers... making you agree not to sue them if they phuck up again their online service and your personal information... or no online for you.
They are the worst in the business.
slimy weasels
awesome if it happens... Nintendo, Apple and Microsoft FTW!... they will all do something different... ...Sony with be the jack of all trades master of none... like always...
but shitty... like they are
phuckers... making you agree not to sue them if they phuck up again their online service and your personal information... or no online for you.
They are the worst in the business.
slimy weasels
awesome if it happens... Nintendo, Apple and Microsoft FTW!... they will all do something different... ...Sony with be the jack of all trades master of none... like always...
but shitty... like they are
If Apple crushes the other 3, I quit gaming.
Or more than likely, I'll just become a retro gamer, buying old consoles.
Never liked Apple. Never will.
Or more than likely, I'll just become a retro gamer, buying old consoles.
Never liked Apple. Never will.
No Apple for me thanks.
I don't understand the brand loyalty they do, all they do is repackage ideas in shiny plastic, give it an idiot proof interface and market it. They make tools.
This is an art industry, and Apple do not make art. They have never understood games and how to create an environment for them, and there is little chance of them starting.
Steam is still DRM, even if it's pretty much the best DRM for the PC. So Newell can SHUSH up.
I don't understand the brand loyalty they do, all they do is repackage ideas in shiny plastic, give it an idiot proof interface and market it. They make tools.
This is an art industry, and Apple do not make art. They have never understood games and how to create an environment for them, and there is little chance of them starting.
Steam is still DRM, even if it's pretty much the best DRM for the PC. So Newell can SHUSH up.
I have yet to see anything on an iPhone that compares to my stack of games for the PSP. Rail-brawlers don't count. I imagine one day there will be an iOS game that I want, but we haven't seen that day yet.
Okay, sorry, that was a bit of a reflex reaction to the ongoing "iPhones will replace [insert actual gaming device] for videogames" talk that keeps coming up. But at least the iPhone actually exists, I love mine, unlike the vaporware that Newell is talking about.
Apple has a non-existent tract record for games, unless you count 99 cent impulse buys from the app store. They've done some great stuff, but never showed any understanding of games.
Apple has a non-existent tract record for games, unless you count 99 cent impulse buys from the app store. They've done some great stuff, but never showed any understanding of games.
Not that I would mind an Apple Console because Id like to see what it would be capable of but I like the way the game industry is now. I loved it back in the early 2000's and in the 90's.
I feel though that if Apple did happen to make a game console every major company or most of the major companies out there would flock to them and make the Apple console their main console while making all others secondary. That may be me simply being negative but I feel like that might happen. Also everyone and there mother would say how its a revolutionary product and how it completely destroys the competition in every way. And every year after its release date every console there after will be a copy cat, lack luster, poorly conceived etc.
Just a thought. Part of me thinks that could happen and the other part thinks probably not. There are, no doubt, people who would spout that kind of stuff. Maybe not a vast majority but you might hear it.
Again Im intrigued at what Apple could make just not intrigued to hear people say how Apple has "once again, like always, revolutionized the technology field single-handedly."
I also think it could be some kind of combo between itouch, ipad, iphone and Apple TV. A new Apple TV with amazing specs possibly?
Who knows. I just dont want to hear how its better than every console ever created and that no console from now till the end of time will ever compare to it or even come close and any competitors will be deemed plagiarizers.
I feel though that if Apple did happen to make a game console every major company or most of the major companies out there would flock to them and make the Apple console their main console while making all others secondary. That may be me simply being negative but I feel like that might happen. Also everyone and there mother would say how its a revolutionary product and how it completely destroys the competition in every way. And every year after its release date every console there after will be a copy cat, lack luster, poorly conceived etc.
Just a thought. Part of me thinks that could happen and the other part thinks probably not. There are, no doubt, people who would spout that kind of stuff. Maybe not a vast majority but you might hear it.
Again Im intrigued at what Apple could make just not intrigued to hear people say how Apple has "once again, like always, revolutionized the technology field single-handedly."
I also think it could be some kind of combo between itouch, ipad, iphone and Apple TV. A new Apple TV with amazing specs possibly?
Who knows. I just dont want to hear how its better than every console ever created and that no console from now till the end of time will ever compare to it or even come close and any competitors will be deemed plagiarizers.
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