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New Xbox 360 65nm chipset = cheaper 360s and a cure for cancer /  RROD photo

We all knew it was only a matter of time, and now it looks as if that time has come: Microsoft is implementing codename Falcon in order to reduce overheating in 360s and also greatly reduce the price of manafacturing costs which will translate to a long-overdue price drop across all SKU's. Not a moment too soon either, as Sony has already unwillingly announced the PSDoorstop is getting it's own price rolled back.

Now if only there was a way Microsoft could announce this price cut in a grand fashion, perhaps like a show or some kind of big press event, an expo perhaps. If only...

Hit the jump for all the sexy details and sexy impressions.*

*Note: May not be all that sexy.

Via The Mercury News

Falcon is the name for the latest internal electronics in the Xbox 360. It will have an IBM microprocessor and an AMD/ATI graphics chip that are manufactured in a 65-nanometer production process. These are cost-reduced chips that do the same thing as their 90-nanometer predecessors, but they’re smaller.

With smaller chips, Microsoft gets a bunch of benefits. They won’t generate as much heat. So the risks of overheating — one of the main reasons behind Microsoft’s billion-dollar write-off for repairs and extended warranties — are much lower. The chips may also cost half of what it took to make them before because they use less material and fewer manufacturing steps to produce.

Everyone knows that console makers cut the prices and costs on their consoles over time. But you may not be aware that the primary chips – microprocessor, graphics, and the Ana video processing chip – are the bulk of the cost of the machine. Microsoft started making the Xbox 360s in August, 2005, with a 90-nanometer process. It is overdue to switch to the newest technology, 65 nanometers, but that day has finally come. It may be some time — a year, maybe two — before it moves on the a 45-nanometer process.

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BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 16:52
BahamutZero
goddammit joe burling, don't you have a yob? or is it just making us all look bad full time...
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 16:52
BahamutZero
and I don't feel bad I just got an elite, theres no way I could've waited the year or so before this comes out
Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 16:54
Joe Burling
I bet 42 halos and 72 dead wolves that the RROD to drop off dramatically with this revision. Any takers?
Skeeblar's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 16:55
Skeeblar
So...
Do we have to wait for our 360's to crap out to get the new chips?
Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 16:55
Joe Burling
...will drop off dramatically...
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 16:55
TheStripe
fo' sho. I wonder if I claim warranty on my box if I'll get a new 45nm box instead of an old 90.
William Haley's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 16:55
William Haley
The Elites are more stable anyway. You may want to hold onto your receipt for the impending price drop, however...
William Haley's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 16:56
William Haley
Is Stripe from the future?
Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 16:57
Joe Burling
Good question, skeeblar. Now that the 360 has a 3 year warranty, will older-revision boards and chips with RROD issues be replaced with newer ones? Which would be more cost effective for MS? Is this part of that $1 billion dollar budget MS has planned?
wonky360's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 16:58
wonky360
Microsoft will probably not drop the price too drastically, the machine will sell very well at christmas with GTA, Halo etc not to mention the unknown E3 announcements. I reckon a series of small drops so that it does not offend the masses who have one now.
Tron Knotts's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 17:03
Tron Knotts
If the 360 drops to $200, it will be #1 this year.

Unless the Wii drops to $150.

Then, the usual Wii dominance will continue as usual.
SeraphX's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 17:05
SeraphX
I see a 50$ drop, they have no reason to go lower.
Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 17:09
Joe Burling
Tron, I think the Wii will continue to dominate either way. There are five gamers in my office who will buy next-gen systems (360/PS3/both). There are 50 other employees who want a Wii who would normally not buy any consoles. They'll buy a couple games, get bored with it, and it'll collect dust until the family Christmas party.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 17:13
PappaDukes
The 360 is dropping to $200!?!?! SOLD!
Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 17:26
Joe Burling
If the RROD dropped the amount of faulty 360's to a level of that of the PS3, what would be the 360's biggest flaw? No Blu-Ray?
William Haley's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 17:38
William Haley
If people wanted Blu-Ray, they'd buy a Blu Ray player. The 360 plays games, and lots of good ones at that.

The 360 is expected to see a $50 drop tomorrow, except for the Elite which may go as low as $399, in which case Sony will probably take a bunch of pills and lock themselves in the bathroom.
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 17:53
Danmartigan
I am still waiting on the 65nm chip before I purchase a 360. It's too damn loud and runs too hot otherwise. C'mon microsoft, you might not screw this one up! (but you probably will)
mrsamuel's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 17:58
mrsamuel
Uh...don't we need to work on a 360 release of Folding@Home before we get the cure for cancer?
Tron Knotts's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 18:14
Tron Knotts
Buck- Are casual gamers really that lame? I work with too hot girls who are obseased with the Wii, who never liked video games before.

I know it's easy for most of us to doubt the casual gamers taste, but they seen pretty intense about their love of the Wii.

Wii Sports on Monday, Wii Play on Tues, Wario Ware on Wed, Big Brain on Thurs, and Rayman on Friday. They call it their "Force Five", each game for a half an hour on it's day. They don't seem to be getting sick of it.
Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 18:21
Joe Burling
Tron, I love casual gamers and I'm not taking stabs at the Wii as much as I'm giving my opinion of what will happen to it. Look, I think the Wii will sell the most hardware this generation, but I do expect software sales to eventually start to fade out. For each girl that you mentioned, I can name 10 girls who loved it at first and now aren't even interested in playing it even at one of our Wii parties. How long have they had the Wii? How much will they be playing it next month? What about the month after that?
deiga-the-semivaliant's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 18:21
deiga-the-semivaliant
Well Tron, I personally know Megan Fox. Even though she has a Wii, she doesn't play it as often as Nintendo says she should, choosing instead to model in front of a giant fan and lift up the hoods of cars to expose her sexiness to whoever happens to be passing by.

It is pretty much collecting dust in the corner at the moment. Once in a while I'll bust it out when I'm at her place, but she doesn't buy many games.

I was her date to the Transformers premier in New Zealand, by the way. It was a blast, for those who were curious.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 19:28
Sharpless
Well, I live in Jessica Alba's vagina, so there.

Anyway, this is good news. I don't think there will be a huge difference to the RROD epidemic, but there will probably be some small decrease.
Aerox's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 19:47
Aerox
I swear to god, every single time I buy a console the price ends up dropping within a month or two. It happened with the PS2, it happened with the Gamecube, it happened with the DS, and now it's happening with the 360. And this especially sucks because I went ahead and bought the extended 360 warranty solely so I would be covered in case of the RROD, and then of course 2 weeks later they announce their warranty extension.
Agent Nixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 19:48
Agent Nixon
I would really appreciate a step-up type program for current 360 owners to get their consoles upgraded to the 65nm glory.
psychopathic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 20:18
psychopathic
*prepares towel in hopes of a trade in*
William Haley's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 20:28
William Haley
Deiga, pics or it didnt happen.
908peruvian's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 20:29
908peruvian
@ Agent Nixon

YEAH DATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!

CAUSE THIS IS MY THIRD XBOX 360!!

how many refurbished systems can i get??

if this one gives me red lights again,
GIVE ME A BRAND NEW SEALED 65NM X360 AND
I'LL BE THE HAPPIEST GUY ON EARTH!
Vigor's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 23:02
Vigor
Seems like a great deal.
drewt003's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 23:18
drewt003
The problem with the 360 is that it was designed by dumb americans.. Giving it an amazing 33% failure rating, american geeks need to leave the hardware manufaturing to the japs. At least they know how to make a goods system. my 360 sounds like a dam helicopter taking off.
drewt003's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2007 23:18
drewt003
The problem with the 360 is that it was designed by dumb americans.. Giving it an amazing 33% failure rating, american geeks need to leave the hardware manufaturing to the japs. At least they know how to make a goods system. my 360 sounds like a dam helicopter taking off.
Mxyzptlk's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 01:09
Mxyzptlk
Nice trolling there drewt003.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 06:52
brainderailment
@Buck:
"I bet 42 halos and 72 dead wolves that the RROD will drop off dramatically with this revision. Any takers?"
Isn't that one of the main points of this post?
MATTFOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/07/2007 09:45
MATTFOO
BUTT CREAM
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