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New Star Ocean scans with anime stylings included (for now) photo

I'm not sure if the news of the change to less "anime" faces in Star Ocean 4 turned any of you off enough to keep you from buying the game when it comes out, but if that type of thing doesn't bother you, you may want to get a gander at the new scans that Gamekyo has posted today. There's more pretty images to ogle, not to mention a gigantic pink rabbit that looks a bit like Cait Sith in bunny form.

I want to complain about the changing of the anime-styled faces, but then I think about the brilliant Valkyria Chronicles, which featured breathtaking anime-inspired characters and topped "best of" lists, yet sold about as well as the Apple Pippin (okay, maybe just a little better than that, but still). Let's face it, a lot of us may like anime stylings in our gaming experiences, but it's not where the money's at.








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ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 17:28
ParaParaKing
Well since these are Japanese screens and Japan keeps anime faces, they won't go anywhere.
Caffeine Knight's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 17:28
Caffeine Knight
I seriously doubt that anyone's decision on this game, except the hardest of the hardcore, is going to be influnced by the player portraits being anime styled or not. Sure, it would be cool if it was one way over the other, but it is not going to influence my decision in the tiniest bit.

What about you fools? Is there someone out there that has decided they aren't going to get this game anymore for this reason?
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 17:29
Josh Tolentino
The problem isn't in the anime stylings, it's in marketing. Sega forgot Valkyria Chronicles existed, and as a result it sank into the niche that only people like us - the hardest of the hardcore - are aware of. The poor timing didn't help either.

Atlus and NIS America are perfect examples of publishers that know how to address the right-size audience. They've consistently exercised good judgment and perception when it comes to finding their niche, and marketing heavily towards the people that will care, buy, and spread the word. There's a reason the Atlus newsletter is pretty much the only publisher newsletter worth reading.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 17:34
MrSadistic
With the scores the game has been getting, I might actually pick this game up.
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 17:35
Midgetsnowman
I diaagree . Valkyria was a failing of two things imo, at least. One,as Unanbangkay said, Sega markets niche games about as well as they marketed the Dreamcast. Theyre HORRIBLE about getting the word out about these games and they fail because of it. Secondly, I've ranted on ps3 centric forums when they complain about rpgs and point out Valkyria Chronicles. and to a One, half of them go "thats not a real jrpg" and write it off because it isnt Final Fantasy repackaged.

Valkyria's failure had nothing to do with the art, it was all horrible marketing and the fact the average jrpg "fanboy" despises Strategy RPGS not named Final fantasy tactics and doesnt even consider them part of the genre.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 17:40
ParaParaKing
Strategy RPGs are super niche though considering JRPGs are still kinda niche in the western market.
Pacopaco's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 17:48
Pacopaco
@Caffeine
I don't know, I've always been surprised be the sheer volume of irrational comments video game players make about the most superficial aspects. Heck, take a look at the "controversies" that flared up when Diablo III or Street Fighter IV screenshots first started appearing.

Now realize that Japanese fans have a tendency to be EVEN MORE fickle and suddenly things begin to make sense and make you want to curl up into a little ball and cry.
Urashima's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 17:54
Urashima
THEY BROUGHT BACK THE SUPER SPECIALTY SKILL "COME ON, BUNNY!" ALONG WITH THE BUNNY RACES! WOOOOOOOO!

Anywho: I'm disappointed they felt it necessary to change around the battle portraits and the status page character portraits, etc. to CG rather than Anime, but it's not exactly a huge deal. I do think they should have kept it the way it is in the Japanese version, though.
Colette Bennett's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 18:02
Colette Bennett
Dear Urashima: your username and icon please me greatly. ^__^
Extraordinary 22 year old's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 18:10
Extraordinary 22 year old
I personally enjoy anything anime. On the hills of this new info in regards to the face pic changes i feel like the face pics were insignificant to begin with. I prefer the anime face pics to CGI ones but really it's not going to sway me one way or the other in regards to actually purchasing this title. To change something like that just seems like a waste of time. Really who's going to be, "SWEET now i'm getting this game because of the change"?
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 18:14
Phoenix Gamma
I think you have to throw a pretty huge hissy fit to not buy a game because of the tiny portraits at the bottom of the screen.

I mean, I played the Tactics Advance games, and those characters look ridiculous.
Batthink's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 18:19
Batthink
*points a gun at the head of the Western translators*

...trust me, leaving the anime portraits will save you time...
Shoop's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 18:35
Shoop
Come on, Bunny! D:
akathatoneguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 18:52
akathatoneguy
I'm sure that the anime style of the characters in Valkyria Chronicles didn't help sales any. There is definitely a stigma towards anime from those who aren't fans, and there's an instant negative feeling towards anime from many of those folks...plenty of whom would probably love the game if they gave it a chance.

There's just a certain perception about anime from non-fans that is hard to avoid. I consider it to be a very niche kind of thing, and I know it's not just me! I have nothing against it, but I just know that it's viewed in much the same way as say, D&D or Magic: The Gathering.

Also, when looking around for VC info, I found a lot (A LOT!) of people who said they wouldn't buy the game because it lacked trophies. Between stuff like that, the art style, the game being on one platform, the poor release date and having little to no publicity behind it, it just had no chance.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 19:13
Wedge
Sometimes I wonder if you actually believe anything you say, or you just say stupid things for the sake of saying stupid things.

Valkria never had a chance because it's a turn-based strategy game (and the Sega marketing, etc etc). Go find me ONE TBS that has ever done well in the US that wasn't branded with FF. And the few people that do buy those games are an Atlus/NIS type of crowd, many of which probably don't have a PS3 (since most of those kind of games are on portable systems these days).

Now it would be interesting to redo all the graphics and repackage it as "Call of Duty: Gallian War" just to see how many people you could trick into buying it since it technically has "realtime" combat sequences.

And besides, we all know the real reason is because it had "Chronicles" in the name.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 19:26
Black Nexus
Valkyria Chronicles just wasn't marketed well enough and got lost in the holiday rush ( And with all the fanboys complaining about the lack of trophies that really did'nt help).

And I'd wish square had payed attention to that because there about to make the same mistake. This game is launching right in the middle of 4 hyped up games( Killzone 2, Street fighter 4, Halo wars, and resident evil 5.). Add to the fact the there isn't even a PS3 version as of now ( the system that is still considered to have most of the rpg fanbase) and you have Valkyria Chronicles all over again.

I'm thankful sega is deciding to launch another campaign for Valkyria Chronicles in the spring ( were we are light on games and stuff like Valkyria Chronicles can get some attention, cause if White Knight Chronicles get those kind of sales there was no reason this game should have floped the way it did)and I wish square would have payed attention, it may not be the holidays but there walking into a similar situation.
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 19:46
Midgetsnowman
I disagree Nexus. I think a lot of rpg fans own a 360 just as much as they might own a ps3. The sales figures on games like Lost odyssey and tales of Vesperia are pretty darned solid in the US for a non-square game, I think the "ps3 has the majority of the jrpg fanbase" cliche is incorrect. most JRPG gamers will gladly spend tons on buying persona 3 for 100+ dollars. theyre not the types to skimp on systems out of some insane form of brand loyalty.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 20:09
Black Nexus
@ midgetsnowman
mmmmm should have worded that a little better

I not trying to say the 360 does'nt have a rpg base, but with such rabid sales ( demon souls sold out)ignoring the ps3 would be stupid especially considering rpg's as a whole have kinda fallen from grace.They say they need sellers but seem to do everything in there power to make sure that doesn't happen.

The rpg market as a whole is in need of a boost, it just isn't what it used to be. And if square intends to propell rpg's back into the mainstram like they used to be then ignoring that many fans destroys the chance of that happenning.

there tying to restore the rpg market but ignoring at least one half of it.Thinking like that is doomed to failure, And the longer they take to correct it the worse its gonna get.The 360 does have an rpg base but its nowhere near the number they need. neither is the ps3 side. There gonna need both halves to pull this off, so letting the other half wait ( and lose interest )is not a good idea.


And as I pointed out launching a game in between four really hyped games isn't a good idea unless you have a really hyped game yourself.
Zanduar's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 20:53
Zanduar
Valkyria Chronicles is an awesome game that didn't get enough hype. Really, sad as it is, shitty games get sold because of hype. It is the same reason that a company would prefer to make sequels.

A ton of video game people like anime but I doubt they would not buy the game due to a lack of it.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 21:29
Black Nexus
mainstram , sorry I meant mainstream
kin84's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/10/2009 22:33
kin84
Is it that hard to include both styles? I mean, squenix is not known for for giving you choices (no jp voice track in their games) but c'mon at least it could be some sort of dlc if the discs are too stuffed
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nat145pp
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