Jonathan Holmes is the most lovable Associate Editor on Destructoid. Catch him on videos, original editorials, and on back episodes of the Destructoid Show and MTV's Road Rules. Jonathan is a retro gamer's gamer.
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9:00 PM on 10.16.2011 | 
Well do I need to write more?
That's so true...
I need to fix my 360 too.
Did I mention that my life is sad?
El Shaddai
Deadly Premonition.
3 amazing SP games.
Also, HYPE.
Honourable mention to Mario Kart 7 at the start of December.
Looks awesome, and I know what to expect from a Zelda game, pure gold.
Also, super excited.
... Ooooops, I just jizzed all over the place. I think I need new pants.
Where Skyrim/Mass Effect could be a remarkable mortal, Zelda is a god. It's just silly trying to compare.
Also, Pac-Man: Championship Edition DX is better than Heavy Rain. Subjectivity be damned!
Jon Carnage told me that.
Zelda doesn't really get the same defense because (at least with Skyward Sword) it hasn't gotten the same amount of hype as Skyrim. I'll still get it and lock myself in my room with it and come out 50-100 hours later, I just don't think I need to prove it to people, especially not you Jonathan, considering I know you share my feelings on the topic.
And if your a fan of nintendo it goes without saying that your games aren't threatened by the encroachment of forced online multiplayer. It seems link nintendo is more afraid of the internets then the mothers who buy wii fit.
People do know that, right?!?!?!?
gonna be an awesome month
Link looks like a robot.
I dont know about this Zelda; the more I see and the less I'm excited about it. This used to be my #1 gaming priority never missed an episode (even bought a second-hand Game Cube just to play Twilight Princess); but all I see there is a very pretty game with no surprises, all these "new" items are just variations around gameplay mechanics we already know too well.
Oh I also don't have a Wii muha haha maybe I should start there ;p
I love the eastern look of the first vid, god I can't wait.
Anyway, Skyward Sword looks really good.
Yes they do... do you? Not exactly sure where that Mass Effect thing came from, excellent as it is. Not to mention a game doesn't suddenly lose it's "great singleplayer" status is it has multiplayer, even if that multiplayer mode is awful.
Spoiler: Link is a robot.
@Patrick
So this. I feel like any time anyone defends a Zelda/Mario/Metroid game, you're labelled as a Nintendo fanboy/apologist and that your opinion isn't valid unless you have strict loyalty to the PS3 or 360.
Not to mention a game doesn't suddenly lose it's "great singleplayer" status is it has multiplayer, even if that multiplayer mode is awful.
This is debatable. The development and inclusion of a multiplayer mode takes resources - most important of which is time. The more time spent on a multiplayer mode, the less time that can be spent on the single player campaign. As a result, the story may end up being shorter, the gameplay mechanics less polished, etc. The shoehorning of unwanted and unnecessary multiplayer into a single player franchise upsets fans of the franchise because they don't want the single player experience which they love to suffer.
Just because the single player mode still exists doesn't mean it will be as good as it could be without multiplayer at its side.
Needless to say, singleplayer isn't going anywhere. Multiplayer is going to increase, but I doubt that singleplayer games will ever completely die off. If they do I'm going to have to buy a lot less video games.
But but but but ..... if game developers don't cram a multiplayer mode that most people probably won't play or will play for 10min then never return to ..... how will they extort an onlinepass tax? HOW?
Then games will stop being produced because all the developers will have starved to death T______T
Mmmm... Majora's mask swimming.
The real problem is Aonuma's background is PC adventure games, both in design and in his preferred choice of games. He's gone on record as saying he doesn't like reflex-oriented games (which is what the older Zelda games were about), so it's no shock that the newer Zeldas are more like glorified PC adventure games. And as a result it should be no shock that in Japan the series is bombing hard, with the DS games going straight to the bargin bin, and Twilight Princess not faring much better. Abroad the series has been stagnant in sales and gradually losing interest.
The simple reason that people sound more excited for a game like Skyrim is because it's actually closer to what Zelda used to be. An action-RPG hybrid. Everything that was in the older Zeldas but gone now is in Skyrim on steroids. Exploration on a massive scale. Non-linearity (the older Zeldas were very non-linear) and you don't even have to follow the story if you don't want to. You can go around and do whatever you want. The only area that might be lacking would be combat, but it looks like they're trying to improve on that with Skyrim.
Simply put, Skyrim outclasses modern Zelda in content, in allowing the player greater control in what they do, in replay value, and in actually making the player feel like on they're on a grand adventure in a huge world. Modern Zelda feels small because the player is constantly being guided on where to go next with no freedom to choose how to go about things (which runs contrary to the older games), and the "content" and world is just a bunch of cutscenes. Instead of the player having greater control over what they do, they have less.
Not to mention that Nintendo has fallen into the trap of hitting the reset button with every game they make, ala Final Fantasy.
That's where your "enthusiasm" for Zelda has gone. I'll go play the game that actually does the job of Zelda better than Zelda actually does today.
Zelda trailers work best at showing off a million epic mechanics at once, running around a dungeon not so much.
I didn't really understand why people were talking about Majora's Mask Zora Link swimming until he RIPPED out of the water like that!
Loving the eastern stylings of that dungeon too, love me some lotus and things with lots of arms.
Mass Effect is grossly overrated.
Zelda fans on the other hand don't need to defend anything, people who dare say it's anything but gold are simply jealous of the Nintendo fans that enjoy it.
The Batman: Arkham series is another(I'm assuming after reading reviews).
I am going to lie to Dr-Peace right here. Zelda is so much better than Mass Effect.