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"The only mandatory fights are boss battles, which take the form of quick-time-events."
This sounds annoying.
Anyway, I still haven't played Silent Hill 2 because I'm stupid, so I don't think I'll be playing 8 any time soon. Hope it's good tough.
This sounds annoying.
Anyway, I still haven't played Silent Hill 2 because I'm stupid, so I don't think I'll be playing 8 any time soon. Hope it's good tough.
" The only mandatory fights are boss battles, which take the form of quick-time-events"
FUCK THIS SHIT.
FUCK THIS SHIT.
@Mirax
I was just about to say that. Since i'm a pretty big silent hill fan i'll probably play it anyway but it sounding pretty good right now. Hope they come out with a solid game.
I was just about to say that. Since i'm a pretty big silent hill fan i'll probably play it anyway but it sounding pretty good right now. Hope they come out with a solid game.
"The only mandatory fights are boss battles, which take the form of quick-time-events."
And it sounded so good, up until this. Well, ill still remain optimistic.
And it sounded so good, up until this. Well, ill still remain optimistic.
ALL OF THE ABOVE. FUCK QTE FOREVER. What's the point in avoiding confrontation if you then get the option COMPLETELY taken away from you and you CANNOT fail unless you miss a simple button press? I like the rest of the new ideas, but this QTE thing is really, really terrible news.
Being closer to SH1-3 gameplay has me interested in the series again. That said, quick time boss battles can fuck right off.
Oh come on now, QTEs aren't THAT bad, unless there's excessive use of it. As long as it doesn't go Heavy Rain (completely QTE-based) on us, I think that could work. Everything else sounds promising, and really, when did you play a boss battle in a Team Silent-era Silent Hill game, that ws actually good? The only one I can think of is against the two Pyramimd Heads in SH2. Clunky fighting mechanics don't go together well with boss battles, really.
@Arturoaquinojr:
Dude, for one, Team Silent no longer exists. For two, the only game Team Silent worked on in its entirety was the first game. Only smaller elements of the team worked on the next two games.
Dude, for one, Team Silent no longer exists. For two, the only game Team Silent worked on in its entirety was the first game. Only smaller elements of the team worked on the next two games.
Heh, first the name itself reminded me of Heavy Rain (Downpour is synonymous with a heavy rain), but then I read about the role of water in the game (lol, what, we gonna get a rain meter here too?) AND the QTE's!?
Yep, I see eimmilarities =P
In all seriousness though, an Open world mixed with old school style Silent Hill gameplay sounds promising. Hopefully they can do the QTE's in a way that doesn't suck. I ono, I'm not to worried about that since, as Shattered Memories taught me, you kinda don't need to many bosses in this kinda game.
Yep, I see eimmilarities =P
In all seriousness though, an Open world mixed with old school style Silent Hill gameplay sounds promising. Hopefully they can do the QTE's in a way that doesn't suck. I ono, I'm not to worried about that since, as Shattered Memories taught me, you kinda don't need to many bosses in this kinda game.
Hungarian studio, not an american studio
anyway, it's funny that you liked it, Jim. Judging from screenshots it's even more Twin Peaks and "a lot of characters" based than Shattered Memories you didn't like.
anyway, it's funny that you liked it, Jim. Judging from screenshots it's even more Twin Peaks and "a lot of characters" based than Shattered Memories you didn't like.
No words on if it's the western or eastern studio making this? Cause if it's the western one I'm lowering my expectations significantly.
I don't understand the hatred towards QTE, personally I find them quite enjoyable. But I guess everyone have the right to their own opinions.
Klarden:
Wat? Varta is a Czech-based studio. Amirite?
The only Hungarian (famous) studios i know of are CryTek Budapest (Crysis Warhead) and NeoCore Games (King Arthur + expansions)
Also, i am Hungarian. Tee-hee.
Wat? Varta is a Czech-based studio. Amirite?
The only Hungarian (famous) studios i know of are CryTek Budapest (Crysis Warhead) and NeoCore Games (King Arthur + expansions)
Also, i am Hungarian. Tee-hee.
Hm, I don't mind the QTE, but basing boss battles ENTIRELY on them could be a little iffy. On the other hand, it could make for some exciting, tense fights. I like the trend towards the combat style of older games, too. I personally LOVED the no-fighting aspect of Shattered Memories, and felt it put survival back into survival horror very much so. But I know it caused a lot of bitching, so this seems like a nice way to compromise.
I'm not gonna lie, I wasn't sold before at all on it. But I'm interested in giving it a try.
I'm not gonna lie, I wasn't sold before at all on it. But I'm interested in giving it a try.
Open world-ish huh? As long as it doesnt make the game a fucking crawl and they put some interesting things in between, I'm game.
@Damnation02
Right, sorry. Czech. Strange, i somehow thought of them as hungarian. Maybe i thought that Czech's have enough good developers:)
Right, sorry. Czech. Strange, i somehow thought of them as hungarian. Maybe i thought that Czech's have enough good developers:)
I much prefered it if they left out combat altogether and kept the "fright and flight" ascept of Shattered Memories. If the bosses were more like puzzles to solve, then that would be an interesting take (alas, they're not). As it stands, I'm still in two minds about this one, but I'm a little more hopeful knowing it won't be picking out the obvious cliches.
Hmmmm.....QTE's are a strange beast. Infuriating one moment and a joy the next. They worked well in Ninja Blade? We shall see. I have hope. I want this to be good. I do so adore Silent Hill but we shall see.
Sounds intriguing, and unlike many here I don't mind QTE, even in boss fights. However, with a subtitle like Downpour, they better have rain effects at least on par with Hard Rain in L4D2.
I'm game. This Month issue of GI sounds like worth a read. Now back to sitting in front of the mailbox.
It's not that I'm against QTE in general. I just don't like the way it sounds it will be used here. I also really liked Shattered Memories and its no-fighting gameplay. I'm just not sure why there are mixing it up so much here. It's like the boss battles are a totally different monster (pun intended) than the rest of the game. Why work so hard to make the player afraid to fight, then take that element away JUST for the bosses?
Of course this is all speculation at this point. I am going to play it, no matter what, but I'm sure there's going to be a lot of debate raging on this one...
Of course this is all speculation at this point. I am going to play it, no matter what, but I'm sure there's going to be a lot of debate raging on this one...
@Poraro
so they hate QTE more than they do?
i really don't get the thing about "omg it's QTE! it's instantly bad". I rend to say "well, QTE sucks here" when i at least see it. Right now we don't even know how it will work out.
For example, it could work out good if they make boss battles like a mix of QTE and puzzles. You know, like Soul Reaver or SHadow of Colossus (figure out how to kill him) and then with your wits and quick fingers you kill the boss
so they hate QTE more than they do?
i really don't get the thing about "omg it's QTE! it's instantly bad". I rend to say "well, QTE sucks here" when i at least see it. Right now we don't even know how it will work out.
For example, it could work out good if they make boss battles like a mix of QTE and puzzles. You know, like Soul Reaver or SHadow of Colossus (figure out how to kill him) and then with your wits and quick fingers you kill the boss
Sounds interesting. Any other game I would be bothered about QTE boss fights, but since I don't give a shit about combat in Silent Hill, I actually welcome that here.
Also SH1 let you explore the town more than any of the following games, that was pretty damn cool. It will be nice to have that back.
i think QTE, if done right, can be very intense or even difficult.
i always got frustrated during GOW3 when fighting the centaurs. and that half circle QTE always got me, i wouldnt see it till i was hit. come on, i can do everything else fine, why do i keep screwing that one up?
some QTE i would miss during the boss fights because i was so into watching it happen. same went for castlevania LOS, a few of those i missed the first time cause i was to busy watching the scene unfold. but they need to make it very random, and if you fail you need to be punished somehow.
i always got frustrated during GOW3 when fighting the centaurs. and that half circle QTE always got me, i wouldnt see it till i was hit. come on, i can do everything else fine, why do i keep screwing that one up?
some QTE i would miss during the boss fights because i was so into watching it happen. same went for castlevania LOS, a few of those i missed the first time cause i was to busy watching the scene unfold. but they need to make it very random, and if you fail you need to be punished somehow.
They took away the number, thus it'll suck. Just like Silent Hill 5 turned into Homecoming.
Shattered Memories was mostly excellent, though, especially the story.
Shattered Memories was mostly excellent, though, especially the story.
Glad the fighting is avoidable -- Every single Silent Hill game has the most bullshit combat system in gaming.
You are all fucking idiots for bitching about QTEs. Boss battles in Silent Hill have NEVER been good, they just make it impossible to ignore how terrible the controls are in every single game. Don't instantly hate a game for having QTEs just because you suck. This thread is dildos.
Grand Theft Auto: Silent Hill Stories. Called it :D!
No but really, I'm more than excited for this. Played Shattered Memories (on the PSP...) and it was satisfying, even if it was easy (like a trip in which the main objective is to explore). This one sounds more like what scares me, being defenseless (cough Amnesia). Let's just hope that the next Resident Evil is more like the 4th (in which you are afraid to die, no to encounter enemies, and in which you look at the horizon in-game and think "damn, this is going to be a long long night")
No but really, I'm more than excited for this. Played Shattered Memories (on the PSP...) and it was satisfying, even if it was easy (like a trip in which the main objective is to explore). This one sounds more like what scares me, being defenseless (cough Amnesia). Let's just hope that the next Resident Evil is more like the 4th (in which you are afraid to die, no to encounter enemies, and in which you look at the horizon in-game and think "damn, this is going to be a long long night")
"The only mandatory fights are boss battles, which take the form of quick-time-events."
Uh...no thanks.
And with that, Silent Hill is officially over. Adios. It's been fun.
Uh...no thanks.
And with that, Silent Hill is officially over. Adios. It's been fun.
I loved the boss fights in silent hill 2.
QTE's are okay, but a whole boss fight played out in one big QTE sounds crappy.
QTE's are okay, but a whole boss fight played out in one big QTE sounds crappy.
I don't mind QTE but I don't want to feel like I'm fighting Krauser for all the boss fights.
I'm also a bit worried about this open world bit.
I like the motif of water though. I think it'll be interesting to see how it shapes up.
All in all, it sounds like they're trying to be original and the last experiment (SH:SM) was pretty good.
I'm also a bit worried about this open world bit.
I like the motif of water though. I think it'll be interesting to see how it shapes up.
All in all, it sounds like they're trying to be original and the last experiment (SH:SM) was pretty good.
Please.
People haven't even seen how the boss fights work yet. They could be really cool for all we know, so relax.
Boss fights aside, every single other thing Jim said makes me want to freeze myself until this game comes out, because it sounds fantastic.
Silent Hill is one of my absolute favorite series, and even though I liked the newer Silent Hills, Vatra sounds like they're really trying to capture the essence of SH1-3, and that is fantastic news.
I mean... Puzzle difficulty. That alone made me cry with joy. Silent Hills have really been lacking in puzzles lately, so that news provides me with hope that we'll be getting SH1-3 puzzles again.
People haven't even seen how the boss fights work yet. They could be really cool for all we know, so relax.
Boss fights aside, every single other thing Jim said makes me want to freeze myself until this game comes out, because it sounds fantastic.
Silent Hill is one of my absolute favorite series, and even though I liked the newer Silent Hills, Vatra sounds like they're really trying to capture the essence of SH1-3, and that is fantastic news.
I mean... Puzzle difficulty. That alone made me cry with joy. Silent Hills have really been lacking in puzzles lately, so that news provides me with hope that we'll be getting SH1-3 puzzles again.
Sounds good, as long as the boss battle QTEs are perhaps a little more in lieu of Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy or Heavy Rain. Oh wait, that's right, QTEs aren't just about getting every button right, are they?
As a fan of what the series has tried to do, I really like what I'm seeing so far. I'm just hoping that the sidequests enhance the overall product, rather than water it down, but I'm going to blindly trust them, just for the sake of Silent Hill not being that great after Team Silent stopped making them. Oh, and for the love of god, please design original enemies, and don't bring Pyramid Head into it. Silent Hill boasted the fact that many of the enemies were based upon traumatic events in a particular character's mind, and (for the most part) weren't recycled.
As a fan of what the series has tried to do, I really like what I'm seeing so far. I'm just hoping that the sidequests enhance the overall product, rather than water it down, but I'm going to blindly trust them, just for the sake of Silent Hill not being that great after Team Silent stopped making them. Oh, and for the love of god, please design original enemies, and don't bring Pyramid Head into it. Silent Hill boasted the fact that many of the enemies were based upon traumatic events in a particular character's mind, and (for the most part) weren't recycled.
Also, according to the Game Informer article (Detailed here: http://tinyurl.com/2eq5wa6), boss fights *CONTAIN* QTE's. They're not 100% composed of QTE.
So to me right now it sounds more like SH: Homecoming. You know, when you did a lot of damage to a boss you'd run up and hit X a lot or something and Alex would wail on the boss for a couple of seconds before it gets up.
So to me right now it sounds more like SH: Homecoming. You know, when you did a lot of damage to a boss you'd run up and hit X a lot or something and Alex would wail on the boss for a couple of seconds before it gets up.
I see everyone complaining about QTEs but what about this open world setting? Silent Hill games have always been linear, story-driven experiences. We all know how an open world game can wreack havoc on a pacing. This worries me. I will remain skeptically optimistic.
Nothing bring a feeling of horror, dread, and fear then pressing x at the right time to not die.
@dantemustdie - So it's like the worst of the series? Boy that's a selling point.
@dantemustdie - So it's like the worst of the series? Boy that's a selling point.
I want to see the original team silent take the idea of Shattered Memories and put some combat in, lose the ice themes and bring back the rust and build it from the ground up on the wii. I'd buy that in a second!
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