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Are you desperate to know things about Mercury Steam and Kojima Production's new Castlevania game, Lords of Shadows? I suggest watching the trailer again, but if you're really desperate then checking out David Cox's Twitter would be a good idea. He's a producer on the game and he's been letting some details leak out about the game's development.

First, and foremost, is that the PS3 is the lead platform for development, but Cox promises it will look and play the same on both systems. This is most likely true, as when games have noticable difference they are usually developed with the 360 as the lead system. Second, and here we're getting into minutia, but Cox says that the camera is going to be fixed in the game, meaning they're probably going for a cinematic feel over a player controlled feel.

Neither of these facts really makes me any more excited for the game. I buy Castlevania games to play a Castlevania game, not an action fighter that looks inspired by God of War and Devil May Cry. Sometimes a game series doesn't need to be "reborn."

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phantomile's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 01:03
phantomile
"the camera is going to be fixed in the game, meaning they're probably going for a cinematic feel over a player controlled feel."

Ugh. I've really had enough of games trying to be like movies.
If I wanted to watch a movie, I'd watch a movie. There is absolutely NO excuse for not giving camera control to the player in 2010.
KalosBlue's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 01:07
KalosBlue
Ha, don't screw this up. The DS castlevania games rocked. I still need order of ecclesia
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 01:10
Chronic Logic
Cinematic games are really, ugh.

Although making a movie entirely from a game engine and watching it from any perspective is pretty awesome.
Leon Field's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 01:20
Leon Field
I feel disgusted with myself to say I have never played a catlevania game before. But this looks kinda cool.
SBC Slam's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 01:27
SBC Slam
"I buy Castlevania games to play a Castlevania game, not an action fighter that looks inspired by God of War and Devil May Cry."

I completely understand your motivations, as outlined by yourself, but don't you think, maybe, you're being a bit preemptive with your negativity?

The Castlevania series has been doing extremely well on the DS. And you know exactly what you're getting when you purchase them. That "Castlevania" game you make mention of; however, I see no reason to pan this title just yet. Let them give it (another) shot. It's true that 3D Castlevanias have sucked, but my hope certainly hasn't abated. Maybe this time, they'll actually make it good.

Also, the buzz-word "cinematic" seems to be sticking in everyone's craw, again unnecessarily (in my ever-so-humble opinion, of course). No matter how much we protest, this is, first and foremost, a VISUAL medium. Interactivity is essential, but the primary way we experience video games is with our sense of sight. It's absolutely redundant to state that a game is cinematic. Like, no shit, right? And so, maybe, reacting so harshly to a buzz-word some know-nothing corporate asshole decided sounded good on the box is a bit useless.

Being cinematic can be a good thing, fellows. Uncharted 2 is cinematic.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 01:36
The Silent Protagonist
@SBC Slam

Fans have told Konami several times, "Ain't broke, don't fix" with the 2D games and then they go 3D and fuck it all up again.

Aria of Sorrow
Portrait of Ruin
Order of Ecclesia

Ain't broke, don't fix.

Order of Ecclesia made large strides to move it further back to the style established in Simon's Quest all those years ago while retaining the lessons learned from the "Metroidvanias," Dawn of Sorrow most notably.

Order of Ecclesia was pitch-perfect Castlevania. If you want to make it in 3D with a 2D perspective (like NSMB Wii), go nuts. If its just gonna be another cruddy Devil May Cry knock-off, I'll just stick to the real entries which appear on handhelds.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 01:43
Maurice Tan
God of War's camera was fixed while Bayonetta's left some control to the player. But even with that control, how many times did we really use the camera control?

Then again, I did miss all but two of the secret stages... never mind.
SBC Slam's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 01:56
SBC Slam
@Protagonist:

My point is that they are still making the "proper" Castlevanias, and so another attempt at a 3D iteration is perfectly acceptable. They aren't sacrificing 2D Vania games. There's been a steady flow of those, as listed by yourself.

Telling a company not to be progressive about their properties is just stupid. "Ain't broke" philosophies are all well and good, but this is a business, and they need to freshen things up a bit to continue to hook consumers. How on Earth could you possibly malign them for not only continuing to produce 2D Vania games, but on top of that, making attempts to make progress with the series with 3D iterations? Bitch about them if they're shit, by all means. But don't begrudge them the effort.

...But then I realize that this community is the most fickle, most ridiculously (and unnecessarily) over-critical group of people in the fucking world, Hell bent on finding something to bitch about.

At this point I feel it necessary to let you know, again, that they are still producing excellent Vania games in 2D... I have a feeling you're going to back-burner that little point in an attempt to further display the needless righteous indignation about "how dare they...3D...etc., etc., etc."
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 02:05
The Silent Protagonist
@Slam - You seem happy to ignore that last three times they did console Castlevanias, all of which ranged from horrible to mediocre. Each time they've done a console version, they've damaged the credibility of the series - damaged critically, damaged in terms of respect to their fans and in terms of sales - those installments have not helped the franchise gain anything in the console audience.

And I think this is a giant not even Kojima can slay. He might on some level "get" Castlevania, but his involvement here is even more peripheral to its development that his dealings with Silicon Knights and the Twin Snakes game.
Killrig's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 02:06
Killrig
I have zero interest in this and I love the 2D Castlevania games.
ilovepancakes's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 02:33
ilovepancakes
i think i will enjoy the hell out of this one.
otakunoise's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 02:51
otakunoise
i'm definitely buying this. kojima having a hand in the castlevania franchise is reason alone to want to see how this goes. anyone taking bets on whether there's going to be a nightmare mini game involving an earlier castlevania?
WarZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 03:01
WarZombie
Ugh.

I hate it when developers have a lead platform, or actually, when they make it public. It only fuels the fanboy rage, and that serves to annoy the hell out of all of us. Still, I'm optimistic about this game, since it's made by Kojima and all. Not super-excited, just optimistic. I haven't seen a good 3D Castlevania that I'm aware of, which is why I'm trying not to get excited.
Red Priest Rezo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 03:40
Red Priest Rezo
>>Neither of these facts really makes me any more excited for the game. I buy Castlevania games to play a Castlevania game, not an action fighter that looks inspired by God of War and Devil May Cry. Sometimes a game series doesn't need to be "reborn."

Lolwut? Now please, name ONE GOOD Castlevania game, where you have camera-control.
Pinhead's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 03:43
Pinhead
God, 'cinematic' is such a bad term to use in a video game context. It's not a 'camera', it's a 'perspective'. Enough with the film grain and lens flares! Games aren't movies. How about developing some pleasing video game aesthetics instead of basing them off movies you think are cool, as if they have anything to contribute other than cheesy stories and lots of style without substance.
matrixdude171's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 04:25
matrixdude171
So it's FFXIII?
RichardBlaine's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 04:49
RichardBlaine
Having never played a 3D Castlevania game (Ecclesia's probably my favorite to date), I have no other experience to color my expectations. I think the trailer looked cool, I like the property, and I like Kojima. As for 2D to 3D transitions, "arguably" Metroid Prime is one of the best things to happen to that series. I'd imagine there was quite a bit of skepticism from the die-hards when the first Prime title released as well, but look how that turned out. As of now, it looks like in the worst case scenario it will be a God of War/Devil May Cry/Dante's Inferno/etc. type of game; which I think the jury ruled was inherently fine as long as it was fun. Realistically it will probably be good but not great and will hopefully be marketed like hell because of the star power (Kojima, The Voice Actors) so it should help raise awareness for the franchise. I see no real reason to be worried or freaking out at this point. On top of the fact that it won't change whether or not the game will be made.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 05:51
Aaron Mxy Yost
I still haven't gotten tired of God of War/Devil May Cry action games. I think taking the lessons learned from the best of those games and applying it to Castlevania could produce an awesome title. It's not like the 2D Castlevania games are being sacrificed to make this.
MCChampaignMillionaire's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 06:39
MCChampaignMillionaire
Oh yes I am a big Castlevania fan...but this is practically not a Castlevania...but anyways this is going to be awesome
Ball Buster's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 07:14
Ball Buster
I wish this word "cinematic" would stop showing up everywhere.

But I'll give the game a chance. The PS2 Castlevanias were actually kinda fun, if not shallow.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 07:45
Xzyliac
It's funny because all these comments of people who are annoyed can all be traced to one reason.

Kojima Productions

Yeah that word. Once that word is involved you pretty much know where things are headed.
williampansky's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 08:10
williampansky
Even with all the previous failed 3D attempts, I believe this one has a lot of promise.
Live by the Sword's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 08:26
Live by the Sword
Kojima's involment in its production guarantees this title to be of the utter most quality. Among the several PS3 titles I'm looking forward to purchasing this year, besides the Last Guardian, Castlevania has me the most intrigued.
chronomitch's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 09:45
chronomitch
@Xzyliac

That's the problem right there. Don't get me wrong, the Metal Gear Solid games were great, but the later ones tended to forgo game play for cinematics - something I never want to see happen to a Castlevania title.

Castlevania games have always been good at two things: solid 2D game play and a haunting atmosphere. I would be open to playing a 3D Castlevania, since each 3D iteration seems to be better than the last, though nowhere near the 2D games. However, what I absolutely DO NOT want to see in a Castlevania game is a convoluted story with preachy undertones, which is exactly what Kojima Productions seems to be good at.

Let's forgo all of this nonsense and just demand a high-resolution (1080p) 2D sprite-based Castlevania game for a home console.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 10:18
Daxelman
I still can't believe he chose THIS over Zone Of Enders...

Naw, I'm kidding, I've only played one Vania and one Enders game.

Don't know what the fuck to expect, but if they're are nanomachines, I will drop Hydrogen Bombs meng.
LazyAza's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 11:17
LazyAza
I wish more old franchises were rebooted in this genre, its my favorite.
silvain's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 11:25
silvain
I would love a new 2d castlevania metroidvania based game on PSN/XBLA, but I'm also happy to have this exist. The franchise is strong enough to where experiments haven't killed it before; I don't see why this would kill it now.

Franchises would do well to innovate, otherwise they eventually die, having stagnated completely.
SayWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 11:54
SayWord
All I have to say is if the playstation is the lead platform (most likely hideo kojimas decisiom) I will get it! Yay it seems more and more games are heading to the playstation as lead platform!
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/18/2010 15:33
Electrium
Now that Darksiders is out, I'm really starting to not give a shit about this game. And that's really sad, considering Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow is one of my top 10 favorite games ever.
AdamantiumHip's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 02:34
AdamantiumHip
im sorry to tell you that castlevania desperately needed to be reborn

if you love the crappy anime nonsensical style of story telling, 2D platformers (please, I grew tired of them when mario and sonic were the only games in town) and poor voice acting, then sure, it didnt need to be reborn, but if you wanted to see a good idea (video game based, action retelling of dracula) through the filter of sony's action classic with great, gothic graphics and an amazing cast then it certainly did.

You can keep your old 2D platforming, anime style convoluted telling to your ds castlevanias. Now it's time for the concept to be done justice.
NESgamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/19/2010 04:05
NESgamer
Yeah, this will be an interesting take on Castlevania. Like the dude above me said, the anime 2D metroidvania has been exploited so much.

I don't mind the comparison to God of war.
green abobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/27/2010 03:58
green abobo
because it says castlevania,of course i get a chubby.
the kojima thing is a plus,and camera angles,or lack there of dont bother me.
what i'm looking for is re-vamped,pun intended,old-school bosses!
bring back the reaper,frankenstein,and king blood-sucker.
in other words,mix the NES game play roots with the next generation video and sound.i'd also be keen on some of the old music making appearences too.hopefully the crucifix/whip will be more than just another weapon with a bunch of combos.throw in some re-play value and make gabe be able to level up/advance for the coming tribulations ahead of him.
the series was the original adventure/horror game. thats what will make me have to go out and buy it.
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