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Wow, going to your profile and manually syncing is just that terribly hard now? Seriously are we getting that fucking lazy?
That being said, it would have been nice had this been for everyone.
Also, inb4 sofik
That being said, it would have been nice had this been for everyone.
Also, inb4 sofik
Im expecting this to be next.
"Coming soon! Playstation 2 Support for PS Plus Members only. Also If you already had PS2 Backwards Compatibility we took it out.
Love Ya
Sony"
That said I am a PS plus Subscriber. I feel to dirty.
"Coming soon! Playstation 2 Support for PS Plus Members only. Also If you already had PS2 Backwards Compatibility we took it out.
Love Ya
Sony"
That said I am a PS plus Subscriber. I feel to dirty.
I agree, it's bullshit, but I think Xbox Live users get gypped the most, what with their terrible menu interface and overpriced XBLA games. I feel like I can never renew my Xbox Live subscription unless I get some free months or there's a good deal on renewal card.
I can see many people being frustrated about this. This should be a feature everyone should already have in the very first place even when trophies just came out.
I, however, don't seem to care as I feel there's nothing I gain from actually getting this trophies, so it doesn't matter to me.
I, however, don't seem to care as I feel there's nothing I gain from actually getting this trophies, so it doesn't matter to me.
Ugh, they are monotizing basic fixes now. Great.
I guess I could sell my PS3 and buy a working 360 to speak with my wallet.... but then I'd have to pay for XBL. Well, I'll show both of them by buying a.... wait, the Wii doesn't do online so well. Thats okay, I'll just.... hmmmm..... there's only 2 home consoles that do online well. I guess I'll just buy PS+, I guess. Competition is good for the market!
I guess I could sell my PS3 and buy a working 360 to speak with my wallet.... but then I'd have to pay for XBL. Well, I'll show both of them by buying a.... wait, the Wii doesn't do online so well. Thats okay, I'll just.... hmmmm..... there's only 2 home consoles that do online well. I guess I'll just buy PS+, I guess. Competition is good for the market!
Is it that hard to wait 10 seconds for it to 'sync'? Geez. I seriously think that those of you who are spending hard earned cash on a service should get some more out of it. Not some shitty auto sync thing.
Shit like this is only pushing me more and more to pc games.. and mainly indie pc games at that.
I'm not of the mindset that sony has to give everything for free.. but Jim is right.. their trophy system is a horrendous, broken, pile of shit, and this is merely a patch to make it more tolerable.
I'm not of the mindset that sony has to give everything for free.. but Jim is right.. their trophy system is a horrendous, broken, pile of shit, and this is merely a patch to make it more tolerable.
@NukaCola
Um......XBLA prices are the same as PSN.
A 14.99 game on PSN is 1200 MSP. 80MSP=1 dollar. Do the math.
>.> Troll harder, man.
Also, this SHOULD be free to everyone, (seeing as it's free for XBL members to sync cheevos.) But, hey, PS Plus needs to be a worthwile thing to have
/flameshield
Um......XBLA prices are the same as PSN.
A 14.99 game on PSN is 1200 MSP. 80MSP=1 dollar. Do the math.
>.> Troll harder, man.
Also, this SHOULD be free to everyone, (seeing as it's free for XBL members to sync cheevos.) But, hey, PS Plus needs to be a worthwile thing to have
/flameshield
Anyone saying "rawr rawr lazy gamers bitching" totally misses the point. ANY unnecessary inconvenience, no matter how minor, shouldn't be tolerated, especially when the fix for that unnecessary inconvenience is being withheld in order to artificially make a subscription service appear more valuable.
Besides which, with mandatory installs, frequent firmware updates, sluggish syncing and slow downloads, exactly HOW many "not a big deal" inconveniences is Sony allowed to get away with before we admit it all mounts up to one big pain in the arse?
Besides which, with mandatory installs, frequent firmware updates, sluggish syncing and slow downloads, exactly HOW many "not a big deal" inconveniences is Sony allowed to get away with before we admit it all mounts up to one big pain in the arse?
I've instead got something better to do -- bitch about the fact that Sony is expecting people to pay in order to have their console finished.
Also, I'm trying to break down your logic here Jim. Introducing an auto-sync option that doesnt hamper the current manual syncing for a system that wasnt even originally on the system when it launched apparently means "making people pay to have their console finished".
While I agree it should be free to everyone, you're complaining about a free add-on that wasnt even originally going to be on the system but got added later on because "eggsbawks haz achievements"
Also, I'm trying to break down your logic here Jim. Introducing an auto-sync option that doesnt hamper the current manual syncing for a system that wasnt even originally on the system when it launched apparently means "making people pay to have their console finished".
While I agree it should be free to everyone, you're complaining about a free add-on that wasnt even originally going to be on the system but got added later on because "eggsbawks haz achievements"
Wait, so it still syncs, but only if you do it manually? So there is literally no difference to non-plus members?
Misleading header or what!
Misleading header or what!
I love it. People bitch that PS+ isn't worthwhile, then when Sony add features to make it more worthwhile, people bitch that PS+ is getting features. It's kinda hilarious really.
Besides, this is hardly an important feature that you HAVE to have, like, I don't know, <i>online fucking multiplayer.</i>
Besides, this is hardly an important feature that you HAVE to have, like, I don't know, <i>online fucking multiplayer.</i>
@Jim Sterling
I want to know what magical picky internet you have. Because the sluggish syncing of my totally optional system to flaunt my e-penis only takes like 5-10 seconds to sync, and my downloads go at the same speed as their Xbox Live counterparts.
It could be worse anyway. Xbox Live artificially inflates its value by giving you fucking nothing if you dont pay for it.
I want to know what magical picky internet you have. Because the sluggish syncing of my totally optional system to flaunt my e-penis only takes like 5-10 seconds to sync, and my downloads go at the same speed as their Xbox Live counterparts.
It could be worse anyway. Xbox Live artificially inflates its value by giving you fucking nothing if you dont pay for it.
"Is it that hard to wait 10 seconds for it to 'sync'? Geez. I seriously think that those of you who are spending hard earned cash on a service should get some more out of it. Not some shitty auto sync thing."
Haha, 10 seconds? In what universe does the PS3 do anything in 10 seconds? If I ever want to play PAIN, I have to remember to start downloading all the patches the day before.
Haha, 10 seconds? In what universe does the PS3 do anything in 10 seconds? If I ever want to play PAIN, I have to remember to start downloading all the patches the day before.
"...exactly HOW many "not a big deal" inconveniences is Sony allowed to get away with before we admit it all mounts up to one big pain in the arse?"
These are gamers we're talking about here. Do you think that roughly 50% of HD console gamers are going to complain about their choice in console when they know there is only one alternative, and that alternative is "the enemy"?
The whole fucking industry is a pile of pain in the ass inconveniences in place of the ease-of-play we used to enjoy as console gamers.
These are gamers we're talking about here. Do you think that roughly 50% of HD console gamers are going to complain about their choice in console when they know there is only one alternative, and that alternative is "the enemy"?
The whole fucking industry is a pile of pain in the ass inconveniences in place of the ease-of-play we used to enjoy as console gamers.
@Epic-Kx I'm not talking about mutliplatform games on PSN & XBLA, I'm talking about XBLA exclusives like Shadow Complex, Banko-Kazooie/Tooie, etc. How is that trolling?
tittle is kinda misleading,nothing is changing, update makes no changes to current trophy sync setup,I was about to get really pissed if I could not sync lol, but this is just eh
@Paul Franzen
Haha very true, but basically what I'm saying is that people can wait however long for their virtual achievements to sync and not need to pay for it to be instant. :) if that makes sense?
Haha very true, but basically what I'm saying is that people can wait however long for their virtual achievements to sync and not need to pay for it to be instant. :) if that makes sense?
@SephirothX:
It's not that we'er lazy or that profile syncing is that difficult. It's that there is a direct competitor that has an identical feature that is seamlessly integrated. If you have a lot of trophies to sync, it can take a while. However, I can play offline for a year and rack up twenty games worth of achievements and somehow everything is magically updated almost instantly once I sign in.
Let's be honest here. achievements were a huge success for MS. So successful that Sony had to ape their system just to stay competitive. Usually I expect a copied feature to be BETTER than the original because it can correct the original features mistakes. Instead the copy is demonstrably worse.
It's not that we'er lazy or that profile syncing is that difficult. It's that there is a direct competitor that has an identical feature that is seamlessly integrated. If you have a lot of trophies to sync, it can take a while. However, I can play offline for a year and rack up twenty games worth of achievements and somehow everything is magically updated almost instantly once I sign in.
Let's be honest here. achievements were a huge success for MS. So successful that Sony had to ape their system just to stay competitive. Usually I expect a copied feature to be BETTER than the original because it can correct the original features mistakes. Instead the copy is demonstrably worse.
The best part is this new update just pushes the syncing and uploading of save files to the auto-update feature released when PS+ first came out. That feature updates the console at a scheduled time you choose (like when you aren't playing at 2 in the morning). So really it isn't auto-syncing the way you would like at all. It's still garbage.
'Syncing' your trophies is ridiculous. It shouldn't be something the gamer should even know about. It should just happen. I never have to 'sync' achievements on Live, why do I have to do the same on PS3?
I'm not sure if I'm a Sony loyalist or not. I mean, I own a PS3 and not a 360 entirely because of Insomniac, Naughty Dog, and Sucker Punch.
@NukaCola
You didn't really establish that. Then again, we weren't talking aboot exclusives, are we?
You didn't really establish that. Then again, we weren't talking aboot exclusives, are we?
The problem here is that Jim, as away, in his attempt to create flames and clicks on his features, is taking a fact that make no difference to PS3 owners in reality, and trying to troll bait everyone in rage war here. He do it with every platform and piece of news, in a cheap attempt to generate traffic to his articles.
The trophy sync is not bothersome, could be better, makes no difference to games. the fact that Plus receiver a better version makes no difference in gaming. But of course, it makes no flame war and traffic to a Jim Sterling article, so lets just make a statement consciously knowing to create controversy.
The trophy sync is not bothersome, could be better, makes no difference to games. the fact that Plus receiver a better version makes no difference in gaming. But of course, it makes no flame war and traffic to a Jim Sterling article, so lets just make a statement consciously knowing to create controversy.
Glad I'm a Plus member,but I agree with Jim. Trophy Auto syncing is a fairly useless feature,but since it's there it should be free.
Other than that,I'm very happy with this update because I have been waiting for the 3D DTS-HD Audio update.
Also anyone notice that the XMB Loads WAY faster now?
Other than that,I'm very happy with this update because I have been waiting for the 3D DTS-HD Audio update.
Also anyone notice that the XMB Loads WAY faster now?
Anyone who says this isn't a big deal should tell that to Sony. Apparently they think its a big deal because they are using it as a selling point for their paid service. If it wasn't a big deal they would just give it to everyone. So, despite how much of a big deal you personally think it is, Sony is still getting one over on you and all their other users, which is the point.
I personally couldn't care less about it, but when someone makes such a minor improvement to their product and decides that you should pay more to have it... that's kind of fucked.
I personally couldn't care less about it, but when someone makes such a minor improvement to their product and decides that you should pay more to have it... that's kind of fucked.
If they release an update that takes away my ps2 backwards compatibility I won't update. If I'm forced to, to play new games or whatever, that'd be the last straw. I'd be done with videogames for a long time. This generation has seen more bullshit(day 1 dlc,drm,unerasable saves,online passes,etc) than all other console generations combined. It seriously makes me dreadful of what the games industry will look like in another 1o years.
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