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If this makes it to the states it'll probably be rated M(or censored). Has Nintendo ever published an M rated game before?
Dammit I want this game! Now you're telling me I get to torture vegetarians too? Localize this game Nintendo! I demand it!!!
@Ricochet- There was Conker's Bad Fur Day way back when. But there was also Zangeki No Reginliev more recently but that was Japan only. Not sure about Fatal Frame 4.
"As mentioned before, the protagonist Ende has to harvest the flesh of certain monsters in order to cure his friend Celes of her curse. Celes must then take the flesh and devour it raw.
Here's the Shyamalan twist: she's a vegetarian."
This. Fucking this alone is enough for me. Bring this game to the states Nintendo!
Here's the Shyamalan twist: she's a vegetarian."
This. Fucking this alone is enough for me. Bring this game to the states Nintendo!
Not to rain on people's parade or anything, but her being a vegetarian doesn't really make the whole thing THAT much more scandelous. Unless there's some deep dark reason behind her being a vegetarian, eating a piece of meat isn't necessarily going to be that big of deal. There are plenty of vegetarian's that are vegetarian's for pretty mundane reasons, and I bet most of them would eat a piece of meat in order to save their life without hesitation.
Granted, eating the raw flesh of monsters changes things a bit, but I think that part would promote the same unease from anyone, vegetarian or not.
Granted, eating the raw flesh of monsters changes things a bit, but I think that part would promote the same unease from anyone, vegetarian or not.
This looks fantastic, and clearly has a fairly dark story. I will buy it Nintendo. Just bring it over.
Another game I REALLY FUCKING WANT TO PLAY, but Nintendo will b e too much of a dicktit to bring it to USA.
I don't really get vegetarians. Like, their inner core reason for being that way.
I don't like to have animals die for me... Where does that thinking come from? Naturalism could call out the importances of animal death... But at the same time, most naturalism now days is Evolutionary base... Evolution pretty much stating that the only reason why we can comprehend animal's pain is because we ate animal IN THE FIRST PLACE and hence our brains grew to the massive size they are today.
So it goes... We are morons who have no empathy --> we eat animal --> we are smart and have empathy --> we don't eat animal
I guess the next step is that we get dumb again and the cycle begins all over again. With that said, no I am no a naturalist.
I don't like to have animals die for me... Where does that thinking come from? Naturalism could call out the importances of animal death... But at the same time, most naturalism now days is Evolutionary base... Evolution pretty much stating that the only reason why we can comprehend animal's pain is because we ate animal IN THE FIRST PLACE and hence our brains grew to the massive size they are today.
So it goes... We are morons who have no empathy --> we eat animal --> we are smart and have empathy --> we don't eat animal
I guess the next step is that we get dumb again and the cycle begins all over again. With that said, no I am no a naturalist.
@Zeik56 Most people would do just about anything to save their own skin, it is still a decision to go against your moral code in order to save yourself. From the article it is hard to say if concerns harvesting the meat from creatures that are actively attacking you and therefor you would need to kill regardless, or if it is about seeking out and killing these creatures just for the sake of harvesting the meat for Celes. If it is the first, and referring to them as monsters might suggest this, then it is very much less of a big deal than killing them to save her.
I'm a vegetarian, and I approve this message. Seriously though, neat art/concept, wish this was being developed for ps3.
@lettersnumbers - for me, I grew up vegetarian just from not liking the taste of it general, nowadays I have no qualms about it, I just generally don't eat meat if I have the choice not to eat an animal, dumb or not.
@lettersnumbers - for me, I grew up vegetarian just from not liking the taste of it general, nowadays I have no qualms about it, I just generally don't eat meat if I have the choice not to eat an animal, dumb or not.
I'm a vegetarian, and I approve this message. Seriously though, neat art/concept, wish this was being developed for ps3.
@lettersnumbers - for me, I grew up vegetarian just from not liking the taste of it general, nowadays I have no qualms about it, I just generally don't eat meat if I have the choice not to eat an animal, dumb or not.
@lettersnumbers - for me, I grew up vegetarian just from not liking the taste of it general, nowadays I have no qualms about it, I just generally don't eat meat if I have the choice not to eat an animal, dumb or not.
"Most people would do just about anything to save their own skin," eh? Ask Bobby Sands about that.
That said, I guess this presents a fairly unique dilemma for gamers. I know moral choices are all the rage in games now, but this one stands out as a very personal moral decision whereas most of the choices you see in Mass Effect and the like are more of what society as a whole would consider moral. Interesting stuff. (As a vegan I approve of the discussion that a design choice like this creates.)
That said, I guess this presents a fairly unique dilemma for gamers. I know moral choices are all the rage in games now, but this one stands out as a very personal moral decision whereas most of the choices you see in Mass Effect and the like are more of what society as a whole would consider moral. Interesting stuff. (As a vegan I approve of the discussion that a design choice like this creates.)
Vegetarians tend to be fine.
Now vegans.....good lord, if I could form a hammer out of their own smugness, I'd beat them to death with it.
Now vegans.....good lord, if I could form a hammer out of their own smugness, I'd beat them to death with it.
@ mattrodroid
No. *feels superior*
You can't make me eat your filthy steak! I won't eat it. Not eating meat isn't bad for you. I've been a vegetarian since I was 8 and I feel fine.
(Also, I would totally scarf down a steak If it would save my life or give me superpowers.)
No. *feels superior*
You can't make me eat your filthy steak! I won't eat it. Not eating meat isn't bad for you. I've been a vegetarian since I was 8 and I feel fine.
(Also, I would totally scarf down a steak If it would save my life or give me superpowers.)
@oxfordsquare
"wish this was being developed for ps3"
It's being published by Nintendo, so the chances that this game would have ever been made on another console are slim to none. In any case, look at all the cool shizz coming to PS3! Don't deny Wii-owners a little bit of goodness.
"wish this was being developed for ps3"
It's being published by Nintendo, so the chances that this game would have ever been made on another console are slim to none. In any case, look at all the cool shizz coming to PS3! Don't deny Wii-owners a little bit of goodness.
She would have gotten psychic powers if she hadn't eaten that.
I'm thinking this game will be Nintendo's starter to attract the "hardcore" gamer crowd for the Wii 2.
Looks very good, nether the less.
I'm thinking this game will be Nintendo's starter to attract the "hardcore" gamer crowd for the Wii 2.
Looks very good, nether the less.
Ahhh, another nifty-looking game that we'll never see here! Spiffy!
....but feel free to prove me wrong, NOA. Please?
....but feel free to prove me wrong, NOA. Please?
hopefully it's Mamiko Noto voicing Ceres despite her sounding different here.
why do you have to eat that O_O
why do you have to eat that O_O
As a vegetarian, I am surprised at the amount of hate directed at us in just 30 or so comments already.
Anyway the game itself doesn't look that interesting to me, but the veggie thing is indeed an intersting dilemma.
Anyway the game itself doesn't look that interesting to me, but the veggie thing is indeed an intersting dilemma.
What's wrong with being a vegetarian? Are you all that challenged by the idea that someone can have a healthier, guilt-free diet? There are lower rates of cancer and obesity among vegetarians as well.
I'm a vegetarian and I think this is awesome. You have to have a sense of humor about your own beliefs ... it gives you leeway to laugh at others' when their turn comes around. I LOVE that Dennis Leary stand-up routine about carving off what you want to eat out of the cow and then riding the rest home.
Stuck up vegetarians need to chill the hell out. Having said that, in my life I've only met about three or four of them, while I've met thousands of belligerent, condescending meat eaters. Not quite sure where the stigma comes from.
Stuck up vegetarians need to chill the hell out. Having said that, in my life I've only met about three or four of them, while I've met thousands of belligerent, condescending meat eaters. Not quite sure where the stigma comes from.
I can't believe just how awesome this game looks, also am i the only thinking "this is what 3D Castlevanias should have been years ago"? cuz that's the feeling i get here, part Castlevania, part Devil May Cry, part JRPG, all awesome.
I love the episode of the Drew Carey Show where Drew is dating that pretentious vegan hippie girl, and his friends trick her into becoming a meataholic by giving her hamburgers instead of veggie burgers.
@Baldrik - But that's the thing, being a vegetarian isn't necessarily because of some big moral code, I've met plenty that are vegetarian because of health reasons or merely because they don't like meat. It's not always about the harming of animals. (Vegan's are the ones who flat out oppose eating anything from animals.) I actually have cousin who used to be a vegetarian and is now a wild game hunter.
Granted, given that this is a fictional video game chances are they'll play up the whole vegetarian angle, but it still doesn't necessarily she's one of those political vegetarian's .
Granted, given that this is a fictional video game chances are they'll play up the whole vegetarian angle, but it still doesn't necessarily she's one of those political vegetarian's .
I'm a vegetarian, this game looks great I'm hoping this gets localized
@Mattroid @ Lettersnumbers
being Vegetarianin is a dietary choice so don't get to worked up about it, not everyone is smug just the loud ones are. For instance most intelligent vegetarians hate Peta because they never do anything worthwile, all they do is make vegetarians look bad.
I'm not an idiot and neither am I smug I will never force my diet or beliefs on other people, we live in a country of freedom of choice.
as for your comment about Humans getting smarter by eating meat well I think you've been misinformed by the propaganda ads by Sam Neill
here's an excerpt from an essay I wrote:
The USDA have misinformed the public to believe that humans are biologically programmed to eat meat. In reality, humans are herbivores. People do not have claws for catching and killing animals, they have hands for plucking fruits and planting seeds. Carnivores have underdeveloped incisors, mouths that move strictly up and down and long short molars for ripping meat. Humans have strong incisors, flat molars, and mouths that move slightly side to side for chewing and mashing seeds; similar to a cow ; which is a strict herbivore. Carnivores eat food by swallowing pieces and do not need to chew because they have acidic saliva. Humans, akin to other herbivores, do not have acidic acid and need to chew their food in order to ingest it. Carnivores have short intestines and need to eat other animals because they do not produce adequate cholesterol. Humans have long intestines and produce all the cholesterol they need and any excess cholesterol can lead to health risks. Though it is true that we need B12 to survive, but you can get that from dairy or vitamins.
Meat isn't going to kill you if you eat it every so often, but humans were not meant to eat it everyday 3 times a day. Various credible scientific studies have proven it repeatedly that eating meat greatly increases heart risk. If you want to put your heart at risk you can do as you please.
@Mattroid @ Lettersnumbers
being Vegetarianin is a dietary choice so don't get to worked up about it, not everyone is smug just the loud ones are. For instance most intelligent vegetarians hate Peta because they never do anything worthwile, all they do is make vegetarians look bad.
I'm not an idiot and neither am I smug I will never force my diet or beliefs on other people, we live in a country of freedom of choice.
as for your comment about Humans getting smarter by eating meat well I think you've been misinformed by the propaganda ads by Sam Neill
here's an excerpt from an essay I wrote:
The USDA have misinformed the public to believe that humans are biologically programmed to eat meat. In reality, humans are herbivores. People do not have claws for catching and killing animals, they have hands for plucking fruits and planting seeds. Carnivores have underdeveloped incisors, mouths that move strictly up and down and long short molars for ripping meat. Humans have strong incisors, flat molars, and mouths that move slightly side to side for chewing and mashing seeds; similar to a cow ; which is a strict herbivore. Carnivores eat food by swallowing pieces and do not need to chew because they have acidic saliva. Humans, akin to other herbivores, do not have acidic acid and need to chew their food in order to ingest it. Carnivores have short intestines and need to eat other animals because they do not produce adequate cholesterol. Humans have long intestines and produce all the cholesterol they need and any excess cholesterol can lead to health risks. Though it is true that we need B12 to survive, but you can get that from dairy or vitamins.
Meat isn't going to kill you if you eat it every so often, but humans were not meant to eat it everyday 3 times a day. Various credible scientific studies have proven it repeatedly that eating meat greatly increases heart risk. If you want to put your heart at risk you can do as you please.
I don't understand, where is all this vegetarian stuff coming from?
In the trailer they say nothing about her being a vegetarian.
In the trailer they say nothing about her being a vegetarian.
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