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New Gears of War patch: Play time is over photo

After a week long disappearence from Live, I come back to new swag on the marketplace for Gears of War, including a map pack, a new theme, and even a new patch. While the theme and the new maps are pretty sweet, the patch is somewhat of a burn.

Improvements have been made such as shortening the chainsaw and sticky grenade distance, making them "less cheap" as some players I know would say, and removing the popular glitches, such as the Sprint and Run. However, the rub comes in the fact that they've actually removed the Host name from ranked matches. That's right, boys and girls; if you wanna play with your friends, you have to play a player match, or set up a ranked room with VERY specific parameters and hope that your friends can find the room using very narrow search options, and even then, it's a crap shoot.

While its understandable why this is done, to prevent boosting and stop acheivement whores from getting acheivements just by offing their friends, it's a pretty disturbing considering Gears is best played with people you know, trust, and work well with, rather than having to risk being thrown into room full of mutes who don't care if you get downed, and aren't working together. 

My question is: Why go to such great lengths to create such an awesome team based game, only to go to equally great lengths to make sure gamers can't play as a team?







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Whiskey Jak's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 11:38
Whiskey Jak
That's where a proper clan system is badly needed.
Toneman's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 11:43
Toneman
Doesn't bug me. I play player matches with friends anyways. I've probably played 2 ranked matches compared to like 200 player matches.
tazarthayoot's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 11:44
tazarthayoot
It's rediculous that achievements aren't unlocked for player matches, because I have much more fun in the unranked matches when I play with people I can trust and depend on. Trueskill or not, it's 10 times better to play it with people who you know aren't gonna continuously spew insults that make no sense and just ruin the game experience.

Danzuke's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 11:44
Danzuke
Ranked matches are supposed to be random. That way you couldn't work together to boost stats. I don't see why it's an issue. If you want to play with friends, that's what the player match is for.

Until they come up with some sort of clan system, I don't see why people are upset by this.
JamesSorensen's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 11:49
JamesSorensen
hmmm where to start.

shortening distance with chainsaw, melee's, grenade tags is very understandable, i am still adjusting because i was spoiled by the 20 feet away abilities.

VOICE CHAT FIXED YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

don't play ranked matches often casue i like playing with friends nonstop, but i kinda understand why they locked it down...

as far as glitches, still chocked full of them, I CAN still run and shoot and look around while running, and well all the other annoying glitches and just problems with A being the do all button and maps overfilled with cover....

still in the end a fun game to kill time till another game on teh system worth playing comes around
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 11:54
Snaileb
I love everyone's comments, and feel THE SAME FUCKING WAY. Now NetPhantom, I agree with you too. However, I would have rather them allowed us to play with friends in a ranked match while we wait for a clan system, than , and I quote, "mutes who don't care if you get downed, and aren't working together." .... and uh... unquote, or something. Anyways, chainsaw bayonet to the face bitches!! Im fuckin ruthless!!! Gamertag : Snaileb
Jecrell's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 11:56
Jecrell
Suffer
djnexus911's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 12:07
djnexus911
here you said "only to go to equally great lengths to make sure gamers can't play as a team?" who says you cant still play as a team even if you arent playing with your friends 24/7... in a way it makes sense on what they did it isnt fair to the people who actually earn there ranks thru good game playing, compared to the ones who just take turn killing each other 5 games straight with friends just to bump up there rank.
joelseph's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 12:12
joelseph
Wow, more GoW hate on DToid.
teksuo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 12:13
teksuo
what I meant by that was that you can't play as a team in ranked. Ranked matches are meant to be a true test of your skill as a player. Now, I won't ignore the fact that if you can work well complete strangers and totally decimate the other team, that's a display a skill. But, for most, it's much better to work with people you know and communicate well with, than some jackass who wants to run off on his own like he's Rambo and gets everyone else killed.
teksuo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 12:14
teksuo
Working with a team a cohesive unit is far better than what essentially turns into a deathmatch with people you can kill and people you can't.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 12:16
Snaileb
Sorry djnexus that you run into achievement whores, but that is simply not the case. In most cases, it's much more likely that you run into mutes and drop outs, because achievements eventually get earned, but the common dumbass gamer (usually 12 on gears) will always be here to stay, forever. And I , personally, would like a way around it. I didn't pay 60 bucks for that crap.
hikarii's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 12:24
hikarii
anyone else think the curb stomp animation is shorter now? im for it!
Chris Taran's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 12:28
Chris Taran
Where the Gears hate joelseph? You can't criticize a game you like?

I Hexed I's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 12:36
I Hexed I
I don't understand the desire to eliminate boosters/cheaters/what have you at the expense of people who just want to play the game with their friends. At the end of the day, why would any of us care how someone chooses to "earn" an achievement?

It wouldn't be so bad if non-ranked games had the same competitive feel of and start-to-finish track record of ranked, but that is not the case.

I can't imagine that more than 5-10% of people that play online video games care about ranks/achievements/etc. and it sucks that the rest of us have to suffer to validate something that is insignificant.
JamesSorensen's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 12:45
JamesSorensen
oh and the new maps being free was smart, they are not worth extra cash, one sux and the other is so so.... stick to the original maps any day
bbysknnr6's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 12:50
bbysknnr6
I'm putting aside my Gears of War until they fix this. I just hope enough people complain that maybe they will either return it back to the way it was or put in some type of matchmaking/clan system in. The main reason I use XBL is to play with my friends that don't live near me, and now I am forced to go back to Halo 2. Lost Planet has private slots and the ability to invite friends into you match, I don't understand why Epic is having such a hard time with this. I read in the EGM Cliffy said that the reason they thought they couldn't put in matchmaking was because M$ told them they couldn't, and then M$ said they never told them that. So it was just a stupid mix up. Maybe Cliffy should of spent less time watching Donnie Darko and getting his hair frosted and talked to M$ himself. BTW, M$ is how the cool kids type Microsoft.
shadow300z's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 13:15
shadow300z
Gears of War is probably the most overrated game at least of the past year, if not the past 2-3. The game is basically pretty mediocre gameplay and story, with great graphics. Multiplayer licks teh balls too, even GRAW has better multiplayer then gears, and that's saying a lot.
xtofuconsumerx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 13:17
xtofuconsumerx
I don't Understand why people are saying they cannot play with their friends anymore? Can't you still join eachother in player matches? Sorry if I am confused about this let me know if I am wrong. Also IMO (in my opinion) Ranks are kind of important, see I am a huge PC gamer and I have played call of duty 1 and 2 since day 1 of releases and I can tell you having a rank in cod2 like their is in BF2 would be awesome because after playing years of Cod what do I have to show for it? Nada.

I also believe that for Xbox Live games they need to set it up like a pc game. For example in CoD you start up the game and log in and it shows you a list of servers and you pick which one you want to join. Now I do not understand why they cannot do this on Xbox live? Any explanations please tell me why because I still think the way you join games on XboX live is Like a caveman trying to figure out how fire works.
Danzuke's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 13:34
Danzuke
It's a microsoft thing with the ranked matches. They require it to be a certain way to fit into their trueskill system. That's why the ranked matches work different.

Microsoft needs to institute a "Live" wide clan system, then it'll be all good
I Hexed I's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 13:37
I Hexed I
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind ranks being in games, but aesthetic awards (ranks/achievements/etc.) should never take priority over fun in video games. For a lot of us, having an easy way to play with our friends is the definition of fun.

It's especially frustrating to pick up a game like Gears, after having become accustomed to Halo 2's matchmaking (say what you want about the quality of the game, but they did the online and party system right) and having the online service be so clunky.

Not only is it difficult to play a fun competitive game with your friends, after each match, you start two menu screens too far back (why do I have to keep selecting online multiplayer and Xbox Live ranked match over and over again? Can't I just change it when I want to play something else) and I've yet to see enough proof that the TrueSkill system works well enough to make the game more fun than playing with my friends. Furthermore, if TrueSkill is so smart, insert an algorithm that calculates a combination of players TrueSkill.
xtofuconsumerx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 13:53
xtofuconsumerx
Ah thanks phantom, I knew it had to be the l33t M$ that was holding back online options.

As for halo2 and skill selection and such, I do not really believe in the entire matching skill with skil sort of thing halo 2 did. I believe in playing against people that are way better than me so I can learn tactics and strategies, although getting wrecked every 5 minutes can suck but it just makes me try harder and want to learn so I can return the favor. But thats just me.
Diverse's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 13:55
Diverse
bbysknnr6 is a fat nerd with a chode dick
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 13:59
Aaron Mxy Yost
What's Gears of War?
Jordan Devore's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 15:25
Jordan Devore
If we keep bitching to Microsoft, they might actually fix some things or at least consider fixing them. It's worked in the past with Xbox Live anyways.

Dtoid GoW match tonight! You game, Snaileb?
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 16:01
Snaileb
oh fuck yes I am. Me and my brother (he's 29, dont fear. lol) will be on a 70" widescreen LCD tv. The patch didn't mess with any aspects of the game for me, graphically wise. I'll be on @ 6pm Eastern (florida baby)
Jordan Devore's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 16:14
Jordan Devore
70"? Hell yes! I still haven't gotten to play Gears since the patch, so I'll probably be on before tonight.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 16:25
Snaileb
Good luck adjusting! Seriously, that shit sucked for a little while, but its all for the better. Remember, if you want to melee/tag/chainsaw, wait till you can see the fear in their eyes, you have to be so close, that you can smell the brand of deoderant on the enemy. Its that bad.
Jordan Devore's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 18:11
Jordan Devore
Jesus christ, you weren't kidding. I suck so bad now. Did they adjust the shotgun damage too? It seems to do a hell of a lot more body splits now. Also, the blood looks different -- bad graphics different.
sirmoosh's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 21:20
sirmoosh
Aww hell I'm loving this patch. Now I've gained super abilities to take out the whole other team with a shotgun, It's nucking futs. But yeah making it harder for me to find a friend's game is never good.
Gamechamp's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/12/2007 21:50
Gamechamp
It's called player matches.


Personally, I find no flaws with the patch.
doro's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/13/2007 05:12
doro
Why does each game try to come up with a different way to host/find MP games? Why do they constantly try to dumb down how we find games on the PC, which has become pretty much standard on that platform.
id rather be sleeping's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/13/2007 05:38
id rather be sleeping
eat my balls! gears of war owns and if you dont like it its because you probably suck fat cock at it! goddamn haters!
teksuo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/13/2007 11:09
teksuo
I'm addicted to Gears, I just think they should have left the MP the way it was in terms of being able to find rooms. Now, one thing I would like them to add, since they don't want people playing with their normal crew in ranked, just give us a standard Deathmatch. Give us the option to kill anything that moves, throw in a few more spawn points, and bam, everyone will be happy. Also, I'd like to the option for a global chat so that everyone can talk at once without being on th same team. 2 buddies and I love to play gears, but we don't always have 4th person, and we sometimes just like to play, talk, and kill each other. Well, for that, we have to switch over to Call of Duty 2 or something. I want to be able to just chill and chainsaw while talking about politics and shit.
ViruzzX's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/15/2007 11:35
ViruzzX
Hi,
I dont understand why all you crying about this,issue?
You dont need to create names for Matches to play whit your friends! Im from Israel, so i prefer to play whit Israeli's (lower Lag), so i just start the game, and INVITE ppl that you want to play whit, thats all, no need for a password, nothing. You can play whit your friends only.
This is the reson we have Invite options in X-Box!
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