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I really liked 13, and I liked 13-2 as well... so I'll get whatever this is. I hope they end it here though.
Seems pretty obvious to me that "Lightning Saga" refers to the Final Fantasy XIII trilogy(?) as a whole, not a specific game.
I'm so conflicted on this. I really enjoyed Final Fanatsy XIII-2, and I'm looking forward to the obvious XIII-3, but I'm absolutely furious that we're getting this announcement BEFORE Versus gets any kind of love.
@Epic-Kx
I would have said something more like, Meanwhile Squeenix neglects Einhander :( But I hear Musashi was good too..... actually think I have that laying around somewhere just never bothered to play it >.>
I would have said something more like, Meanwhile Squeenix neglects Einhander :( But I hear Musashi was good too..... actually think I have that laying around somewhere just never bothered to play it >.>
Still not buying this day one. I waited like a couple months for 13-2 after release and it was on sale for $15.
Eh, they could probably bilk out a million sales out of it and be profitable but honestly it would probably be better for the series if they just jump onto FF15. This FF13 shit is getting extremely long in the tooth.
@Themuad
Because it's the most profitable one. For all the shit forum-goers and blog commenters like to give it, XIII and XIII-2 have done very well. There's gold in them hills.
To that end, well, I can't pretend to care about the name (I'll be bumfucked if it's anything other than FFXIII-3), but yay, anyway. I'm looking forward to it. The first game failed to grab me, and upset me in many ways (mostly the realisation that the turn-based gameplay I love was gone for good), but XIII-2 managed to actually be really, really good. One of the best Final Fantasys to date and definitely the most beautifully orchestrated and powerful ending, which becomes utterly heartbreaking if you play the Lightning DLC. I think it's a real shame that so many people will deny themselves XIII-2 because thye did not like XIII. It's understandable, but still a shame. XIMII-2 is one of the finest, brightest highlights of this gaming generation, and dare I say of any generation.
Because it's the most profitable one. For all the shit forum-goers and blog commenters like to give it, XIII and XIII-2 have done very well. There's gold in them hills.
To that end, well, I can't pretend to care about the name (I'll be bumfucked if it's anything other than FFXIII-3), but yay, anyway. I'm looking forward to it. The first game failed to grab me, and upset me in many ways (mostly the realisation that the turn-based gameplay I love was gone for good), but XIII-2 managed to actually be really, really good. One of the best Final Fantasys to date and definitely the most beautifully orchestrated and powerful ending, which becomes utterly heartbreaking if you play the Lightning DLC. I think it's a real shame that so many people will deny themselves XIII-2 because thye did not like XIII. It's understandable, but still a shame. XIMII-2 is one of the finest, brightest highlights of this gaming generation, and dare I say of any generation.
I know a lot of people cry about not hearing anything Versus XIII related, but couldn't that just be the third game in the "Lightning Saga" considering the movement through spacetime and all that in XIII-2? Or am I missing something? Do we know anything at all about Versus XIII's narrative?
@ace;ill-have-nothing-to-do-with-13-2-not-because-i-hated-13...but-because-of-bullshit-DLC-practices...i-will-not-support-it-in-any-way
@AceFlibble
I played the demo of XIII-2 and... well i kinda liked it at first. But after a few fights i could let it all go on auto pilot, really didnt care for it.
And then there is the art style, worlds apart from what i enjoy^^
I played the demo of XIII-2 and... well i kinda liked it at first. But after a few fights i could let it all go on auto pilot, really didnt care for it.
And then there is the art style, worlds apart from what i enjoy^^
@AceFlibble
Law of diminishing returns, XIII-2 didn't sell nearly as well as XIII. One could probably say that it was a flop compared to XIII, and I'd imagine the production costs were quite high.
Not to mention this "work on half a dozen Final Fantasy titles" stuff does not seem to be working for them well at all. If XIII was the most profitable Final Fantasy in history, maybe one should take into account the greater cost it had on the rest of Square Enix to produce it. In the grand scheme, Square Enix is not doing well, and doubling down on a strategy that has never worked for them will not pull their asses out of the fire.
" I think it's a real shame that so many people will deny themselves XIII-2 because thye did not like XIII. It's understandable, but still a shame."
That whole deny ourselves thing makes gamers sound like a bunch of weirdos incapable of acting outside our compulsions. I know you didn't mean it that way, but that argument irks the shit out of me. In any case, Square Enix earned it. They earned every drop of ire the series has gained, it's probably the prime example of design by committee gone wrong.
Law of diminishing returns, XIII-2 didn't sell nearly as well as XIII. One could probably say that it was a flop compared to XIII, and I'd imagine the production costs were quite high.
Not to mention this "work on half a dozen Final Fantasy titles" stuff does not seem to be working for them well at all. If XIII was the most profitable Final Fantasy in history, maybe one should take into account the greater cost it had on the rest of Square Enix to produce it. In the grand scheme, Square Enix is not doing well, and doubling down on a strategy that has never worked for them will not pull their asses out of the fire.
" I think it's a real shame that so many people will deny themselves XIII-2 because thye did not like XIII. It's understandable, but still a shame."
That whole deny ourselves thing makes gamers sound like a bunch of weirdos incapable of acting outside our compulsions. I know you didn't mean it that way, but that argument irks the shit out of me. In any case, Square Enix earned it. They earned every drop of ire the series has gained, it's probably the prime example of design by committee gone wrong.
Yay.. More time in a shitty universe with one note characters so that Square can recycle assets, all because no one had to balls to pull the plug on XIII and just get the thing out, because polished shit is still shit.
Maybe Square-Enix will give it an old fashioned Sci-Fi B-Movie title such as "Lightning Strikes!" or "Lightning Versus Rod" or what have you?
Meanwhile Square Enix neglects The World Ends With You. A Shitty iOS port doesn't count as doing the series good
13 was terrible. 13-2 was terrible fanservice for 13. with dlc. square can't write stories anymore. the end.
XIII and XIII-2 were fantastic. You're all just philistines. Can't wait for the next one. Also, you know, these are made by a completely different production team than Versus XIII, so it has nothing to do with it. All the Kingdom Hearts games are what has been delaying Versus XIII. Do none of you pay attention?
I'm with Epic. More Musashi.
@iwasabunny - They could just have a different opinion of the games than you. Just sayin'.
@iwasabunny - They could just have a different opinion of the games than you. Just sayin'.
FFXIII and FFXIII-2 were both good games, especially if you're a hardcore gamer. If you're a Madden/COD drone that hates everything that isn't related to pretending you're killing other human beings with a machine gun than you probably hate these games, because they require an attention span, and an imaginative mind.
13 and 13-2 sucked, they don't deserve this attention.
square is doing this because they are lazy and want to make easy cash.
square is doing this because they are lazy and want to make easy cash.
The worst fucking era for final fantasy I can't believe people are actually saying they like this utter piece of shit that shouldn't even deserve to have the final fantasy name on it. I just don't get it man am I completely missing the greatness of a stripped/watered down piece of shit? The battle system is the most fucking retarded concept having after a while you really don't have to do anything other than paradigm shifting and managing your different classes so that the automated characters can automatically do the moves that are most effective on any enemy how much fun is that? Don't even get me started on the story I swear man this generation is full weeaboo fanservice freaks that will lap anything up that has a shit story with cute girls/women and emo subplots with cliche epic things like "heroes" and "hope" give me a fucking break man square-enix is done as far as I am concerned.
@Theumad
Fixating on 13? Really? That's your complaint? How many years have they been beating the FF7 horse now?
Fixating on 13? Really? That's your complaint? How many years have they been beating the FF7 horse now?
I'm playing FFXIII right now for the first time. I'm only a few hours into it but I don't think it's that bad at all, although I would like to punch Vanille in the mouth with a spiked ball gag.
I hope it's XIII-3, if only to drive the angry fanboys into a frothing fury.
Oh and because I liked the first two.
To those that keep mentioning Versus XIII: You realize that game will never see the light of day, right? Squeenix doesn't want to officially cancel it to save face, but they definitely are just wanting it to quietly disappear.
Oh and because I liked the first two.
To those that keep mentioning Versus XIII: You realize that game will never see the light of day, right? Squeenix doesn't want to officially cancel it to save face, but they definitely are just wanting it to quietly disappear.
@ShAiOnEi
I hate to break it to you, but that can be said about every Final Fantasy ever.
Decaf. Now.
I hate to break it to you, but that can be said about every Final Fantasy ever.
Decaf. Now.
Can't believe some people dislike the battle system of XIII and XIII-2, it's a ton of fun. I love traditional turned-based systems too, but there's nothing wrong with switching things up from time to time. Reminds me of all the bitching about XII, so many people freaked out about the battle system changes that they couldn't see past it to a great world and one of the most mature, involving stories in the series.
I'm not saying XIII or XIII-2 was as great as XII was, but seeing people lose their minds over SE not making every game exactly like FFVII or IX gets really old. Open your minds a little. Or not, whatever. Play what you want, opinions, blah blah blah.
I'm not saying XIII or XIII-2 was as great as XII was, but seeing people lose their minds over SE not making every game exactly like FFVII or IX gets really old. Open your minds a little. Or not, whatever. Play what you want, opinions, blah blah blah.
@BrainWasherAttendent
Yes, the consumer would have to bring all the attention and imagination to the table because lord knows Square is devoid of both these days.
Also, bonus points for blaming FF's problems on COD and Madden.
Yes, the consumer would have to bring all the attention and imagination to the table because lord knows Square is devoid of both these days.
Also, bonus points for blaming FF's problems on COD and Madden.
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