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Wow I actually might pick this one up and see what's the hoopla behind it. Still something for me to look over over the long month of January.
As an actual Christian, I'm totally into this. I mean, I wouldn't think of God whilst playing Zelda, but it's the first step in what seems like quite the extreme Christian praising videogames instead of saying pokemons are the devil and that sorta stuff.
1. Buy book digitally
2. Remove crappy DRM
3. Search-Replace "God" and "Jesus" with "Allah" and "Mohammed"
4. Make money out of a useless idea. Twice! :D
2. Remove crappy DRM
3. Search-Replace "God" and "Jesus" with "Allah" and "Mohammed"
4. Make money out of a useless idea. Twice! :D
From a secular perspective, this most interests me as a piece of games criticism -- someone actually doing a literary (and hopefully mechanical) analysis of a videogame and getting it published. Authors can make whatever they want out of a game so long as it's sensibly backed up, and I hope we keep seeing more books like this.
I'm interested, to say the least. Sounds like a decent read by a guy who loves Zelda's lore who's also a christian.
Better than the 'DEM DAYUM VIDJAGAEMZ ARE THE DEVILS WORKOUT DURR' shit I hear at church...
Better than the 'DEM DAYUM VIDJAGAEMZ ARE THE DEVILS WORKOUT DURR' shit I hear at church...
Sorry, but years into the religion and being forced BS until I was old enough have made me completely indifferent (even resentful) of anyone trying to slap Christianity (or any religion, but that's the one I grew up with) on anything I find dear (or not dear). It doesn't help that I've seen this tried before even if it made no sense and was just meant as a method to brainwash kids and shape them into mindless sheep.
...I'm certainly not a morning person, I just wrote a freaking paragraph whining about religion. Pay no attention, people. If people like to match Zelda's events with Christian Bible events that's ok.
...I'm certainly not a morning person, I just wrote a freaking paragraph whining about religion. Pay no attention, people. If people like to match Zelda's events with Christian Bible events that's ok.
I'm a Christian, but this is ridiculous.
Anyway, Jim, I find it a bit lame you suggest Zelda to be as factually credible as the Bible. Suggests you never did any study of history.
Anyway, Jim, I find it a bit lame you suggest Zelda to be as factually credible as the Bible. Suggests you never did any study of history.
I'd be interested to what similarities LoZ has to biblical mythology because the only one's I can think of are flooding of Hyrule with Noah's Ark and the Triforce/3 godesses with the Holy Trinity.
"The idea is about coming about something like Zelda, which is very popular, and having it lead into Christianity."
I come about Zelda games all the time.
I come about Zelda games all the time.
I've always found it interesting how the older Zelda games had Link carrying a shield with a cross on it. When you consider that very few people in Japan are Christians it's interesting how before Hyrule had any sort of regular theology that Link may have been portrayed as a Christian himself. There's even some official artwork for A Link to the Past with Link praying in front of a cross. No really, look:
http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/a/ab/LinkPraying.png
This art only appeared in two Japanese game guides, but the fact that it exists at all is curious enough on its own.
http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/a/ab/LinkPraying.png
This art only appeared in two Japanese game guides, but the fact that it exists at all is curious enough on its own.
You could study any game from the perspective of any religion with enough determination and writing ability.
This sounds like a silly idea, but I'm interested in it. I pretty much hate Christianity, but I'm curious of how it can be compared to Zelda. Christian overtones in Zelda never occurred to me until I heard all of the Goddess praising hoopla in Skyward Sword honestly.
Next time: Your Metroid goddess and how you can please her!
Next time: Your Metroid goddess and how you can please her!
>Take a Japanese game with a Shinto symbol right on the cover.
>Claim it points to Christianity.
Really?
>Claim it points to Christianity.
Really?
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Huh, sounds neat I guess, personally won't read the book.
However it is nice to get a positive viewpoint from the demographic that seems to demonize videogames the most.
However it is nice to get a positive viewpoint from the demographic that seems to demonize videogames the most.
What Renegade said. I'm Christian, but this is exploitation.
You can say the Goonies are a Christian metaphor because they save the town from the sins the town itself created (the villain family). One Eyed Willie Moses. LOL BOOK DEAL.
You can say the Goonies are a Christian metaphor because they save the town from the sins the town itself created (the villain family). One Eyed Willie Moses. LOL BOOK DEAL.
I'm a Christian and I'm not seeing the connections outside of the flood, which exists in most world religious texts.
I'm just not really understanding the statement how it's the "Beatles of videogames." Comparisons like that never make sense to me.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may Chuck Norris have mercy on your soul.
Lol....Zelda and Christianity?
Zelda already has a theological bent, and sorry Christians - but Link believes in polytheism. Remember the Goddesses? Uh dur? Din, Farore and Nayru? Who - you know, created everything?
...And are generally considered female?
Yeah. Christians, you and your 'generally considered' Monotheistic Patriarchal Wrathful "God" lose hard again.
Zelda already has a theological bent, and sorry Christians - but Link believes in polytheism. Remember the Goddesses? Uh dur? Din, Farore and Nayru? Who - you know, created everything?
...And are generally considered female?
Yeah. Christians, you and your 'generally considered' Monotheistic Patriarchal Wrathful "God" lose hard again.
I was about to point the same that @CaseyBaker
I don't know what he will write; but Zelda has a polytheism and mainly female teology. Something that christian mythology ain't too fond to.
I don't know what he will write; but Zelda has a polytheism and mainly female teology. Something that christian mythology ain't too fond to.
Taking a non-Christian work and try to make it fit into a Christian perspective?
Listen, I'm all for God and the Bible, but if you need this book in order to let your kids play Wii, then you can go fuck yourself.
Listen, I'm all for God and the Bible, but if you need this book in order to let your kids play Wii, then you can go fuck yourself.
This is a post in which to discuss the authors attempt to make parallels between Christianity and the Legend of Zelda series. It is not, however, the proper place to include your anti-Christianity nonsense across the comment section.
However, as this is the internet, do feel free to continue to litter my screen with your tired ramblings and asinine criticisms against a faith that has heard all of it before.
If you don't like Christianity that's fine, but Destructoid is about dem vidyagamez. So, shut the fuck up and play them.
However, as this is the internet, do feel free to continue to litter my screen with your tired ramblings and asinine criticisms against a faith that has heard all of it before.
If you don't like Christianity that's fine, but Destructoid is about dem vidyagamez. So, shut the fuck up and play them.
The source makes it sound like he's just writing about similar themes and lessons found in the Bible and Zelda mythology...Sounds like a potentially interesting subject for a book if you ask me. Heck, if someone can relate Taoism to Winnie the Pooh, maybe Zelda and Jesus could work as well.
"You could study any game from the perspective of any religion with enough determination and writing ability"
Yes because you can relate a my little pony game to satanism
@ cess007 christian theology isn't fond of women huh? Okay that's wrong it says in the Christian bible that women are to be honored and respected more so than men and since when are the christians the ones to hate videogames last time I checked it was the catholics who did that
I'm a christian I go to church and there has NEVER been any talk of any videogames being evil
Yes because you can relate a my little pony game to satanism
@ cess007 christian theology isn't fond of women huh? Okay that's wrong it says in the Christian bible that women are to be honored and respected more so than men and since when are the christians the ones to hate videogames last time I checked it was the catholics who did that
I'm a christian I go to church and there has NEVER been any talk of any videogames being evil
Normally, this the part where I get angry and say how the idea of religion is shit, or comparing it to one of my favorite franchises is stupid, but you know what? This book isn't made for someone like me, so why throw a hissy fit about it? It's like a vegan being upset at a steak restaurant because they serve meat.
So... wait... a series that centers around three powerful goddesses helps prove the existence of a singular (typically masculine) god? Wat.
Pretty much what Gwen said, I'm not going to talk bad about Christianity because my family and some of my friend are highly religious, but I couldn't care less about this. Also what Renegade Panda said you can pretty much compare anything with anything with enough determination. Pass for me, I hope that Japanese artbook makes it to the states.
"The Legend of Zelda is the Beatles of video games."
Confirmed: The Legend of Zelda is more popular than Jesus.
Confirmed: The Legend of Zelda is more popular than Jesus.
@THISISSPATA
Uh no. The Bible never states that "women are to be honored and respected more so than men". Try actually reading it instead of repeating the same washed lies so-called 'Christians' love to claim as "Bible sayings".
Uh no. The Bible never states that "women are to be honored and respected more so than men". Try actually reading it instead of repeating the same washed lies so-called 'Christians' love to claim as "Bible sayings".
I'm fine with this as long as Christians admit that their whole mythology is based on the precession of the equinox and the sine wave that is responsible for all fairy tales, legends, religions and science itself.
As Above, So Below.
As Above, So Below.
Fucking christianity why can't they all just kill each other? Oh wait they do... On a different note I guess i can see the relation, I mean a talking red boat is equally as believable as a Zeus rip off of a god.
Christians need to stop shoe horning their sky wizard into things they ought not, like my video games.
@THISISSPATA
1 Corinthians 11:3, 1 Corinthians 14:34 - 35, Ephesians 5:22 - 25, Colossians 3:18, 1 Timothy 2:9 - 15, Romans 7:2 and Titus 2:3 - 5 (to name a few) say otherwise.
My personal favourite though is Job 25:4 which states that every man who is born from a women is unclean.
1 Corinthians 11:3, 1 Corinthians 14:34 - 35, Ephesians 5:22 - 25, Colossians 3:18, 1 Timothy 2:9 - 15, Romans 7:2 and Titus 2:3 - 5 (to name a few) say otherwise.
My personal favourite though is Job 25:4 which states that every man who is born from a women is unclean.
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