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I know everyone wants to "blame teh haxors" but I think there is a small detail missing from this equation. Some websites think that this may be the work of disgruntled ex-employees/employee who were fired shortly before all this happened.
Food for thought....
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sony-online-entertainment-slashes-hundreds-173638
Food for thought....
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sony-online-entertainment-slashes-hundreds-173638
I wonder if the hackers are gonna try to harm the rest of the Sony giant production, like TVs, MP3 players, Phones...
It's seems to be targeted only at the game part of Sony, for now.
Oh well, such is life I guess. I'll probably buy a ps4 when it comes out. I'll just make sure to buy pre-paid credit cards haha
It's seems to be targeted only at the game part of Sony, for now.
Oh well, such is life I guess. I'll probably buy a ps4 when it comes out. I'll just make sure to buy pre-paid credit cards haha
@CrazyCowboyDon
Your "idea" is absolutely ridiculous.
And by that I mean sane, sensible and surprising that it's not in place already.
Your "idea" is absolutely ridiculous.
And by that I mean sane, sensible and surprising that it's not in place already.
"This information, which was discovered by engineers and security consultants reviewing SOE systems, showed that personal information from approximately 24.6 million SOE accounts may have been stolen, as well as certain information from an outdated database from 2007. The information from the outdated database that may have been stolen includes approximately 12,700 non-U.S. credit or debit card numbers and expiration dates (but not credit card security codes), and about 10,700 direct debit records of certain customers in Austria, Germany, Netherlands and Spain."
Yikes. Can't link it now, but the SOE boards had officials letting people know that the SOE network and PSN networks were completely separate from each other. Really curious to know now if it was two separate attacks or what.
Yikes. Can't link it now, but the SOE boards had officials letting people know that the SOE network and PSN networks were completely separate from each other. Really curious to know now if it was two separate attacks or what.
@Robotron
What does it matter who they were? They breached the system to steal information. Regardless of who they were or what their motives were, hacker is hacker.
What does it matter who they were? They breached the system to steal information. Regardless of who they were or what their motives were, hacker is hacker.
I CALLED IT!!! It's going to be online this week, they say. We are beefing up our security so it doesn't happen again, they say. I thought to myself earlier that something else will probably happen before it's over, and here we are.
*sigh* They're going to push the re-launch date back, aren't they? I really want to play some Red Dead online, dammit.
*sigh* They're going to push the re-launch date back, aren't they? I really want to play some Red Dead online, dammit.
Oh, I didn't realize this particular attack was on a service I've never even heard of. Regardless, this is getting really damn old.
Sony has the best security EVAR... I laugh how almost every day Sony gets owned with some type of attack
@7K
Look for DoNotReply@ac.playstation.net in your email box.
God, I've posted this in lots of forums. Why do I have to provide this information instead of Sony?
Look for DoNotReply@ac.playstation.net in your email box.
God, I've posted this in lots of forums. Why do I have to provide this information instead of Sony?
Gonna get drunk to forget I got drunk to forget PSN is down. Might as well get drunk while I'm at it... Ok.
This isn't good, when PSN goes back up, if there is another new attack, I'm done with it.
I'm been getting out of touch with gaming since September, and this crap isn't helping.
I'm been getting out of touch with gaming since September, and this crap isn't helping.
This is f*cking absurd, why the hell should innocent shoppers be penalized because some random a$$hole dislikes them for some asinine reason or another and those hacker apologist are nearly as bad.
I'm almost done with online transactions, but I guess I'll just beef up security.
Still ridiculous..
Still ridiculous..
The reason people are blaming Sony for these attacks is because Sony is apparently the girl who passes out at a frat party with her knickers around her ankles and her ass pointed up to the sky.
Yes it's rape.
Yes, it's wrong. Nobody is disputing that.
Yet there are always people who are going to take advantage of people in vulnerable situations, and the best way to prevent yourself from being taken advantage of is to not put yourself into a dangerous or stupid position in the first place.
Sony? Learn this lesson. But don't expect any pity from me.
Yes it's rape.
Yes, it's wrong. Nobody is disputing that.
Yet there are always people who are going to take advantage of people in vulnerable situations, and the best way to prevent yourself from being taken advantage of is to not put yourself into a dangerous or stupid position in the first place.
Sony? Learn this lesson. But don't expect any pity from me.
just in case someone says data breach is nothing new.
Difference here between Sony and rest of industry is that Sony failed and other companies didn't. It's not normal. And customers should be mad as hell at Sony. I bet Sony is thinking that Thanks god, Osama got killed other wise this is on the front page of every news.
Hackers are not to be blamed. It's Sony's inability to build a secure environment then blame the entire industry for failing.
Difference here between Sony and rest of industry is that Sony failed and other companies didn't. It's not normal. And customers should be mad as hell at Sony. I bet Sony is thinking that Thanks god, Osama got killed other wise this is on the front page of every news.
Hackers are not to be blamed. It's Sony's inability to build a secure environment then blame the entire industry for failing.
Wait, are you trying to say, Sony has been hit AGAIN? This is different from the other 3 hacker groups? Seriously?
@ whateverthismeans
Hackers are not to blame? I just need you to clarify. Do you mean that Sony shares the blame or that the hackers that took untold numbers of people's info are completely absolved of any responsibility?
Hackers are not to blame? I just need you to clarify. Do you mean that Sony shares the blame or that the hackers that took untold numbers of people's info are completely absolved of any responsibility?
So your saying that Sony doesn't have their shit together?
No shit.
PSN needs to be closed for a LONG time.
No shit.
PSN needs to be closed for a LONG time.
You know what @meteorscrap is kinda right. If you [as a business] have an old, out dated database system and network. And have been repeatedly told this by, many, many, many people. And you [as a business] choose to do nothing about it and blissfully look the other way. That's arrogant neglect on your part [as a business].
And now your customers are paying the price, because some one else came along and took advantage of the situation. Yes, [as a business] that is your fault. Hacker shouldn't have done it, but you [as a business] should have been more prepared.
And now your customers are paying the price, because some one else came along and took advantage of the situation. Yes, [as a business] that is your fault. Hacker shouldn't have done it, but you [as a business] should have been more prepared.
whateverthismeanstoyou, thank you for completely validating what I was saying earlier. I almost feel like people are going to accuse me of making a dummy account.
pokota, you mentions all non US, listed some other countries....do you think Canadians were susceptible?
I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt a day after the first attack almost 2 weeks ago, but I'm glad I cancelled my card to be safe. I love getting psone and psn games on my ps3 but it's going to be strictly point cards for the next 6 months or so.
Sony are being targeted because they are soft targets; low-hanging fruit with millions for the stealing.
@Marasune
I think only countries I listed need worry about credit/debit cards. The personal information seems to apply to all SOE customers.
@amtalx
No way in hell. NO ONE is going to even consider a service like OtherOS, ever. It was a huge mistake to begin with, and everyone in the industry took notice. The way people reacted means that from here on out, devices are going to launch stripped down, barebones, with few extras added. Sony made the PS3 too feature heavy at launch, which prompted outrage, then cut features so that they could cut the price, which prompted outrage. It's always best to give customers the bare minimum from the start.
This is something I noticed while I was in business, and why I HATED give-aways and specials. If you have a promotion where you give each customer who came though the door $10 in store credit, they'll expect the same thing the next day, then react with anger when they don't get it. Much of the time, I'd just as soon throw promotional materials in the trash. It's the lesson that you don't learn until after you've already done it, which is then too late.
I think only countries I listed need worry about credit/debit cards. The personal information seems to apply to all SOE customers.
@amtalx
No way in hell. NO ONE is going to even consider a service like OtherOS, ever. It was a huge mistake to begin with, and everyone in the industry took notice. The way people reacted means that from here on out, devices are going to launch stripped down, barebones, with few extras added. Sony made the PS3 too feature heavy at launch, which prompted outrage, then cut features so that they could cut the price, which prompted outrage. It's always best to give customers the bare minimum from the start.
This is something I noticed while I was in business, and why I HATED give-aways and specials. If you have a promotion where you give each customer who came though the door $10 in store credit, they'll expect the same thing the next day, then react with anger when they don't get it. Much of the time, I'd just as soon throw promotional materials in the trash. It's the lesson that you don't learn until after you've already done it, which is then too late.
Initially I was kind of LOLing @ Sony and feeling bad for Sony consumers - but after reading the idiocy on the PSN Facebook page I now feel sorry for Sony and am LOLing at PS users (at least the ones who have posted on that Facebook page)
I f'n hate hackers, and the dbags that instead of getting a real job steal from others. I personally like the middle east's way of dealing with aholes that steal, chop off their s**t. Hackers and robbers continue to do the like because for one the payout is greater than the punishment. If I can hack or go to your house kick your door in, punch you in the face and take your TV and or steal your credit/credit cards/money and get a couple years (first offense) and I am out to steal again, why not continue to steal. Start chopping off limbs. I lived in Saudi and other than the repressive manner in which women are treated (which is horrible), you didn't get your s**t stolen often-if at all. Shoot, recently a drunk driver whom recently hit and KILLED two people got 4-5 years, and he has had a few DUI's prior to this murder. He took lives and is only getting a few years! Punishment and the time in jail/prison is way to easy.
Sorry, crazy rant. I am a tad bitter that good citizens that work hard for their things that do not negatively impact others lives become victims and the system is often set up this way.
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