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I'm surprised the screen isn't multi-touch...that's going to present a lot of problems, considering even some of the cheapest "value plan" phones have it. You don't realize how necessary multi-touch is for gaming until you try a touch device without it - of course, the Apple-hating Nintendo fanboys will be quick to champion it.
Does PS3/PSVita has 100% backwards compatibility with its previous' console's games?
/gauntlet thrown.
/gauntlet thrown.
He's got a point. In fact there was a big article over on a competing gaming website suggesting that Sony took the wind out of Nintendo's sales by announcing Vita + PS3 interactivity before the Nintendo press conference. Essentially, they're capable of doing the same thing, or so the story goes.
And yeah Jim, I had no idea it wasn't multi-touch. Are we sure it's NEVER going to be multi-touch or is that just the demo build?
And yeah Jim, I had no idea it wasn't multi-touch. Are we sure it's NEVER going to be multi-touch or is that just the demo build?
I wish the Vita COULDN'T do everything the Wii U does. Leave the stupid touch screens out of my portable gaming, Sony!
From what I've seen, the speed at which the Wii U controller syncs with the TV (when it takes over as the primary display) is phenomenal.
Not saying the PS Vita won't/can't be as fast or faster, but that's one thing the Wii U has really impressed me with.
Not saying the PS Vita won't/can't be as fast or faster, but that's one thing the Wii U has really impressed me with.
They are pro sony of course they would say that. I would be shocked if they said anything else. The fact that people are taking this as some kind of future doomsday is hilarious. Its like when mobile only devleopers say handhelds are dying.
Its called trash talk.
The only thing the ps3 and vita can do as well is possibly stream ( we dont even know that) it doesn't have all the other features the controller has. And thats all it is a controller for a system.
The possibilities arent greater.
If the vita is a portable ps3 player it will sink faster than a stone. Nintendo and sony both understand the need for exclusives.
Well developers intend to use it similarly to the second screen on the DS. They note that it isn't a gimmick - that a second screen has uses in every game.
Here's someone on IGN's comment as to what you can do on Wii U in say, Red Dead Redemption:
Just play Chinatown Wars on Nintendo DS.
Rockstar made 100 possibilities with the touch screen. Just ask Rockstar.
What I would like is Red Dead Redemption 2 on Wii U.
- Be able to see the map all the time, with fast traveling;
- poker on the screen,
- the knife game to actually be real, with a hand on the touch screen and you have to use the pencil on it
- fast gun swap
- receive maps and look for treasures with the map on the screen
- receive multiplayers invites on the screen
- receive letters from others players on the screen calling for a battle you against me
- take pictures of yourself and put your face on the game
- receive information about the game (DLC) on the screen
- use the touch screen to achieve perfect aiming
- DEAD EYE on touch screen - touch the screen for perfect aiming
I could go on for hours...
And here's the article on Arkham City:
http://wii.ign.com/articles...
These are the things that would make Wii U have the superior version of multi-platform games. Not the power, not the controls, and not the streaming.
Its called trash talk.
The only thing the ps3 and vita can do as well is possibly stream ( we dont even know that) it doesn't have all the other features the controller has. And thats all it is a controller for a system.
The possibilities arent greater.
If the vita is a portable ps3 player it will sink faster than a stone. Nintendo and sony both understand the need for exclusives.
Well developers intend to use it similarly to the second screen on the DS. They note that it isn't a gimmick - that a second screen has uses in every game.
Here's someone on IGN's comment as to what you can do on Wii U in say, Red Dead Redemption:
Just play Chinatown Wars on Nintendo DS.
Rockstar made 100 possibilities with the touch screen. Just ask Rockstar.
What I would like is Red Dead Redemption 2 on Wii U.
- Be able to see the map all the time, with fast traveling;
- poker on the screen,
- the knife game to actually be real, with a hand on the touch screen and you have to use the pencil on it
- fast gun swap
- receive maps and look for treasures with the map on the screen
- receive multiplayers invites on the screen
- receive letters from others players on the screen calling for a battle you against me
- take pictures of yourself and put your face on the game
- receive information about the game (DLC) on the screen
- use the touch screen to achieve perfect aiming
- DEAD EYE on touch screen - touch the screen for perfect aiming
I could go on for hours...
And here's the article on Arkham City:
http://wii.ign.com/articles...
These are the things that would make Wii U have the superior version of multi-platform games. Not the power, not the controls, and not the streaming.
Well, technically speaking, the GBA and Gamecube, DS and Wii and even PS3 and PSP could do what the WiiU does.
Also, there are advantages to the technology used on the DS and the Wii U. It's aimed to be used for drawing and doing that with your fingers sucks, and you can't use any stylus with an iPod Touch-style screen.
My half sister works at Naughty Dog and she raised the good point that to own a PSV and a PS3, the consumer will have to dish out at least $550.00. So unless the Wii U costs more than that, then I'd say Nintendo is in a good position to tell Naughty Dog to shut the fuck up.
Tabarnaco: No there isn't. One isn't meant to be there, since the quote continues in the third paragraph.
"They can promise me lot's of things with the Wii U, but I can't see how Sony saw this presentation and didn't say that they could do the exact same thing with the PSV and PS3."
manasteel88 after the Nintendo E3 Press Conference.
manasteel88 after the Nintendo E3 Press Conference.
Honestly, I was pretty interested in the Wii U at the start. Increasingly, I feel that "Wii 2" feeling coming on....
@Tabarnaco
That's actually proper paragraph construction, as long as it's a direct quote turned into multiple paragraphs (no skipping around between the two).
That's actually proper paragraph construction, as long as it's a direct quote turned into multiple paragraphs (no skipping around between the two).
@Epic
Why yes my PS3 does play previous console games, but touche on the Vita; however, the Wii-U will not play gamecube games last I heard...
/gaunlet caught-beer chugged-huge breats fondled.
Why yes my PS3 does play previous console games, but touche on the Vita; however, the Wii-U will not play gamecube games last I heard...
/gaunlet caught-beer chugged-huge breats fondled.
Can the PSVita hook up wirelessly to the PS3? Every thing that Sony has showed so far, was them just hooking it up with a cable and transferring data. That's not what the Wii U does. It stream the content right to the controller, that can work alone, or in tandem with the screen on the TV.
Nothing Sony has done with the PSVita, has shown that it can do that thus far. Of course maybe they can do it, but just haven't yet, so who knows. As for multitouch only working for gaming, so what about the DS, or 3DS? Are they not considered gaming anymore? We have known that it wasn't multitouch since E3, well at least the people who actually pay attention knew it!
Nothing Sony has done with the PSVita, has shown that it can do that thus far. Of course maybe they can do it, but just haven't yet, so who knows. As for multitouch only working for gaming, so what about the DS, or 3DS? Are they not considered gaming anymore? We have known that it wasn't multitouch since E3, well at least the people who actually pay attention knew it!
@Bergaria However if you already own a PS3 then you only have to spend $250. And if my facts are correct, some people already have the console. Maybe just a few eh?
But i do think if they could get the same functionality as the Wii U then that will be interesting for developers to have optional features for the PS3 that use the Vita, like the Wii U will play the game maybe.
But i do think if they could get the same functionality as the Wii U then that will be interesting for developers to have optional features for the PS3 that use the Vita, like the Wii U will play the game maybe.
Wii u nas no analogue sticks
wii u can't stream games to the controller if that game actually takes advantage of the touchscreen during gameplay
wii u pretty much has a ds screen (must devote an entire hand to holding a stylus)
wii u has motion controls (that's bad)
wii u can't stream games to the controller if that game actually takes advantage of the touchscreen during gameplay
wii u pretty much has a ds screen (must devote an entire hand to holding a stylus)
wii u has motion controls (that's bad)
The potential for PS3/PSP interactivity has been around for a long time and has even been tried on occasion. The PSP has remote play, so some media (movies/pictures/music) can be used on the PSP if the PS3 is running. Most PS1 games can be played on the PS3 and remote-played using the PSP as can some other PS2/PSN games. Some games have also tried to use the PSP as a peripheral (one racing game used it as a rear view mirror) but there hasn't been any use of the PSP that really made PS3 owners go - I have to buy one!
... and I guess that's not such a bad thing. Still, it does seem to me that Sony often drops the ball on stuff. The Eyetoy was an early version of Kinect but never got the content or advertising. The PS3/PSP remote play never really got a lot of press, and the use of a PSP as a useful peripheral was never really explored or utilized in any fashion. Personally I would have LOVED it if some of the RPG type games allowed us to play the PS3 game... and then use the PSP to play a minigame that allowed us to level up our character on the road - and then a quick sync would allow our PS3 character to have the levelling earned via PSP. That's the type of thing that might have sold units. (and the idea is old... I remember I used to level up some of my monsters on the VMU with a mini-game and then use them in Time Stalkers on the Dreamcast)
... and I guess that's not such a bad thing. Still, it does seem to me that Sony often drops the ball on stuff. The Eyetoy was an early version of Kinect but never got the content or advertising. The PS3/PSP remote play never really got a lot of press, and the use of a PSP as a useful peripheral was never really explored or utilized in any fashion. Personally I would have LOVED it if some of the RPG type games allowed us to play the PS3 game... and then use the PSP to play a minigame that allowed us to level up our character on the road - and then a quick sync would allow our PS3 character to have the levelling earned via PSP. That's the type of thing that might have sold units. (and the idea is old... I remember I used to level up some of my monsters on the VMU with a mini-game and then use them in Time Stalkers on the Dreamcast)
After seeing how laggy the remote screen on the psp was, even if I was on the same room with my ps3, connecting directly to it,I'll believe when I see it.
What I'm wondering about is why is he even taking the time to talk so much about the competition, especially regarding a piece of hardware that isn't even close to being in anyone's hands yet? We have little more to go on than a concept and some specs listed. Until I've seen something more substantial that's representative of the reality rather than just the potential, there's not much I care to say but that I'll wait and see. I'm curious enough, for now, but no more than that.
Nintendo makes half-efforts with their hardware to reduce costs. That's reduced costs for them not the consumer, let's be clear on that.
Why would I need a multi-touch screen when I already have a control pad, two circle pads, four face buttons, and four shoulder buttons? Can someone please, please enlighten me?
"Well, PS3 and Vita can't do Mario"
It can. Any gaming platform can. They just aren't allowed to sell it.
It can. Any gaming platform can. They just aren't allowed to sell it.
To be fair, the DS and 3DS don't have multi touch either. It's because Ninty uses passive touch screens instead of active displays, like the iPhone or most Androids have. Its probably a price thing.
The Wii U is a just turning itself into a joke. The more I hear, the more I see a really half-assed attempt to catch up and they just aren't going to do it with the Wii U's control idea alone and some extra hardware power.
The controller only really appeals to people who have to share their TV which probably doesn't extend to a lot of people. Or, if you just downright prefer portables to consoles to which I have to wonder who the hell you are and what the hell is wrong with you.
Toss in no hard drive, proprietary disc format, rumor of no central online account and now lack of touch support and you have to wonder what they're thinking and who, after already owning a PS3 or 360, is going to run out and nab a Nintendo system that lacks features that most of the competition already has or supports better such as online.
The controller only really appeals to people who have to share their TV which probably doesn't extend to a lot of people. Or, if you just downright prefer portables to consoles to which I have to wonder who the hell you are and what the hell is wrong with you.
Toss in no hard drive, proprietary disc format, rumor of no central online account and now lack of touch support and you have to wonder what they're thinking and who, after already owning a PS3 or 360, is going to run out and nab a Nintendo system that lacks features that most of the competition already has or supports better such as online.
@doewnskitty
Because it was an interview and someone asked him the question. Read the source article.
Because it was an interview and someone asked him the question. Read the source article.
@PIECanada - Yes, it steams. Sony has shown/talked about it streaming since E3, and even released a commercial about it.
You would think Nintendo would add features to its next generation, instead of just copypasting the WiiDS.
You would think Nintendo would add features to its next generation, instead of just copypasting the WiiDS.
As a ps3 owner who is 100% getting a psv, this makes me happy in my pants.
Not because it's trashing on nintendo, but because it makes me hopeful for all the home-portable connectivity I wanted in the psp.
Excellent.
Not because it's trashing on nintendo, but because it makes me hopeful for all the home-portable connectivity I wanted in the psp.
Excellent.
OH and funny how Naughty Dog seem so pumped about the Vita when they can't be arsed to even develop their own franchise for it :)
Once PS3+PSVite start doing Zelda games, then I'll care.
In the end, all that really matters are the games/software!
// Roth
In the end, all that really matters are the games/software!
// Roth
Once PS3+PSVita start doing Zelda games, then I'll care.
In the end, all that really matters are the games/software!
// Roth
In the end, all that really matters are the games/software!
// Roth
@Ardent Snow
If you already own a PS3, then you already paid your $299.99 (or however much) to buy it. My half sister's point still stands.
If you already own a PS3, then you already paid your $299.99 (or however much) to buy it. My half sister's point still stands.
@Benjamin Shane: Thanks a bunch Benjamin Shane. Good to know.
@Naughty Dog: Thanks a bunch Naughty Dog. Good to know.
@Naughty Dog: Thanks a bunch Naughty Dog. Good to know.
Yoshida talked about this at Wii U's unveiling. He pretty much said, yeah, we can do that too with our products already. And they have with the PSP ie Lair.
The possibilities of the PS3/Vita combo are greater because of one simple fact: mobility. If you do what Kojima is doing with his Fox Engine game or what Sony's doing with Ruin, it's far superior than taking your remote controller to the crapper to continue playing Zelda.
Which brings another point. Where are all of those people who bashed the Vita for playing console-esque games on a small screen? The WiiU's screen isn't much bigger at all.
And, yeah, the WiiU uses a resistive screen just like the 3DS.
The possibilities of the PS3/Vita combo are greater because of one simple fact: mobility. If you do what Kojima is doing with his Fox Engine game or what Sony's doing with Ruin, it's far superior than taking your remote controller to the crapper to continue playing Zelda.
Which brings another point. Where are all of those people who bashed the Vita for playing console-esque games on a small screen? The WiiU's screen isn't much bigger at all.
And, yeah, the WiiU uses a resistive screen just like the 3DS.
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