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When I heard about this new awesome improvement this became something that I wont buy. I hate matchmaking so much this is the one thing that pisses me off from gaming online on consoles. This essentially means only way to get new maps will probably be from IW at $10 for 3 maps. "Improvements" like these should be kept away from pc gaming.
what the fuck is going on here? No Lan support for SC2 and now this. crazy or what? I know they wanna to cut the piracy by this, but now you cant own a public or private clan/guild server... so the game will not be e-sport suitable. Boycott? yes... i am glad that i wanted to pre-order it next week. So..now i will not.
I won't cancel yet, but whatever happens, chances are I will not play MW2 for too long. The minute I get my hands on Bad Company 2 and it's bye-bye IW/A.
If I wanted a console, I would have bought one. I want a PC version on my PC, not a crappy port with no servers, no mods, no maps, no recoil. Will they bring on the crappy textures as well? lol
If I wanted a console, I would have bought one. I want a PC version on my PC, not a crappy port with no servers, no mods, no maps, no recoil. Will they bring on the crappy textures as well? lol
Pfffthahahahahaha. hahahahahahahahaha. haaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha.
Yeah nobody is going to buy this on PC at all now. Not that they care, I'm sure they're perfectly happy making their mediocre shooter the 360 crowd eats up and buys millions of.
Yeah nobody is going to buy this on PC at all now. Not that they care, I'm sure they're perfectly happy making their mediocre shooter the 360 crowd eats up and buys millions of.
So they charge us more and give us less?
From Valve I might take it, because it'd be fucking brilliant, but MW1 was no brilliant title (at least on PC, I never played it on 360. Could be poor port, but I doubt it, everything worked), so this isn't something that'll find it's way into my games list.
From Valve I might take it, because it'd be fucking brilliant, but MW1 was no brilliant title (at least on PC, I never played it on 360. Could be poor port, but I doubt it, everything worked), so this isn't something that'll find it's way into my games list.
I'm thrilled.
They finally managed to kill the stupid elitist jackoffs, or at least culled their ranks a fair bit.
Seriously, the freaks with their stupid mods and clanservers and ridiculously pretentious rules have been keeping me from returning to COD4 for months.
They finally managed to kill the stupid elitist jackoffs, or at least culled their ranks a fair bit.
Seriously, the freaks with their stupid mods and clanservers and ridiculously pretentious rules have been keeping me from returning to COD4 for months.
I wasn't planning on buying this until a major price cut (way overrated IMO), but what's this now? I have to wait around for the matchmaking system to fail at its job, and then have to worry about the faultiness of local connections? Probably never going to buy it. If I want XBox Live, I will go play my XBox! Keep it off my PC!
And the price I'm willing to buy this for just went down by a further £10.
I will get immense satisfaction from pirating this. Until the first Steam sale, there's no way I'm paying extra money for less features.
I will get immense satisfaction from pirating this. Until the first Steam sale, there's no way I'm paying extra money for less features.
Well, I won't buy the game anyway. Know why? Cause it sucks...i keed, i keed.
No, I'm just not into this half arsed realism bullshit.
TF2>CoD
eat me.
No, I'm just not into this half arsed realism bullshit.
TF2>CoD
eat me.
If this game releases on PC with no dedicated server support.. you will see what is happening to Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising. There is going to be a shit storm of hate pouring down on infinity ward. Not to mention they are going to lose a big ass chunk of their sales on the PC market because of this.
For the more casual joe-blow this is a great thing. I am not that big into online shooters (my hardcore poison is RPGs, and don't get me started on how dumbed down they are now), so a matchmaking system and slick front-end sounds great for me, like Battle.net for a shooter.
The hardcore crowd though... yeah, they are pissed. The IW forums are insane right now, I think they actually deleted a 100+ page thread that was all about how horrible this is.
It's just another sign of the times... games becoming more mainstream, the older, more niche-market feeling crapped on. As a PC gamer and fan of old adventure games and RPGs I feel this crap falling on me on a daily basis.
Oh well.
The hardcore crowd though... yeah, they are pissed. The IW forums are insane right now, I think they actually deleted a 100+ page thread that was all about how horrible this is.
It's just another sign of the times... games becoming more mainstream, the older, more niche-market feeling crapped on. As a PC gamer and fan of old adventure games and RPGs I feel this crap falling on me on a daily basis.
Oh well.
I hated matchmaking on L4D with a passion, thankfully you can activate the server browser via the console... MW1 was all i ever wanted from a FPS, can't see how they want to improve on that anyways, so now they're ruining it. Great! At least now i'm sure i don't want it.
"The hardcore crowd though... yeah, they are pissed. The IW forums are insane right now, I think they actually deleted a 100+ page thread that was all about how horrible this is."
they cant admit that they have made a mistake.thats ugly....i lost all my trust in IW and Activision.
they cant admit that they have made a mistake.thats ugly....i lost all my trust in IW and Activision.
Thank goodness I hated the first one, otherwise I'd probably be pissed about this. Instead I just chuckle at the stupidity of raising the price $10, while at the same time creating an inferior online service.
@badoli
In l4d they still support dedicated servers though, plus the matchmaking really is kind of necessary, otherwise playing with friends or even getting a versus match together would be a pain in the ass.
In the case of MW2 however, it's really not necessary or wanted. Nixing dedicated server support is a pretty bad thing and lessen the ability to have a smooth online experience.
In l4d they still support dedicated servers though, plus the matchmaking really is kind of necessary, otherwise playing with friends or even getting a versus match together would be a pain in the ass.
In the case of MW2 however, it's really not necessary or wanted. Nixing dedicated server support is a pretty bad thing and lessen the ability to have a smooth online experience.
It did not take long:
http://www.petitiononline.com/dedis4mw/petition.html
Might even sign it for amusement purposes.
http://www.petitiononline.com/dedis4mw/petition.html
Might even sign it for amusement purposes.
As an Australian who relies on dedicated servers for a ping of less than 300, I don't think I'm going to buy this game anymore.
This is pretty disgusting. IW is putting out fires on their forums by censoring/deleting posts related to the 'subversive activity' of making complaints. In addition to signing petitions, let's see how a drop in Modern Warfare 2 preorders on Amazon will affect their decisions.
That petition is soaring. From 4am this morning to now it went from around 6,000 signatures to 17,000 and its still growing at an increasing rate.
Remember this survey?
http://www.destructoid.com/activision-exploring-an-mmo-style-service-for-call-of-duty-135924.phtml
It all makes sense now.
http://www.destructoid.com/activision-exploring-an-mmo-style-service-for-call-of-duty-135924.phtml
It all makes sense now.
Gamers make the most idle of threats. Most of you will still buy the game, and Activision will be laughing all the way to the bank.
There's already a petition going on, over 18,000 signatures so far!
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw
@aarnof
Most people will buy the game, yes. On consoles.
The PC crowd in general looks into these things, and I can assure you that these measures will hugely put people off. Couple that with the fact that not using multiplayer means that you don't lose anything from pirating it, and you'll see how things go from there.
Most people will buy the game, yes. On consoles.
The PC crowd in general looks into these things, and I can assure you that these measures will hugely put people off. Couple that with the fact that not using multiplayer means that you don't lose anything from pirating it, and you'll see how things go from there.
@aaronf so when your girl is cheating with your best friend and you will know that, you will have no problem with that right? plz....m8....plz..
Are you F-ing Kidding ME???
They are going to lose TONS of Revenue and piss off a lot of people by this little diddy. No more purchases from Activision Console, PC, or otherwise, if this is what they want, they can have it! Seriously, this is a horrible action taken by IW and Activision!
UGC Faslane
They are going to lose TONS of Revenue and piss off a lot of people by this little diddy. No more purchases from Activision Console, PC, or otherwise, if this is what they want, they can have it! Seriously, this is a horrible action taken by IW and Activision!
UGC Faslane
Because that's what PC gaming needs. We're been perfectly happy for years and years with server browsers and dedicated servers and now we get dumped with what consoles gamers use, match making. Otherwise known are crap.
Boycott hardware companies on pc that supports consoles like AMD. AMD has 80% of their hardware on consoles. AMD were pretty slose to bankuprcy console gaming can't support them.
boycott all actvision games, we love blizzard but half of actvisions income comes from pc gamers.
rent or buy used consoles only, publisher don't get no money from used game market.
spread the word.
boycott all actvision games, we love blizzard but half of actvisions income comes from pc gamers.
rent or buy used consoles only, publisher don't get no money from used game market.
spread the word.
@aaron F, NO, not true, the PC crowd especially Clans will cancel their pre-orders immediately. Our whole clan just did, we already leased a server for it too! Complete BS! Screw IW and Activision!
[UGC+] Faslane
[UGC+] Faslane
Being a PC fanboy, I find it amusing to see all my elitist kin freaking out over getting (relatively) the same system that console owners do.
This is good news.
This is good news.
Elitist PC users are hilarious.
I happen to like Matchmaking. When it works, it works well and creates an even playing field.
I happen to like Matchmaking. When it works, it works well and creates an even playing field.
@aaronf - With most things I would agree, but with the absence of dedicated server support this is a major player in the PC market. Look at what happened to Fear 2 because of its lack of Dedicated Server support. Look at whats happening to Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising (with a number of other issues). Fear 2 is practically non existent now in terms of a multiplayer community because of this, and OFP2 is slowly creeping towards this as well and it just came out.
You know what happens when you don't have dedicated servers on PC? You start playing games online with people with a ping of 120 or higher, the experience becomes saturated, lagged, and not enjoyable. We are used to a seamless lag free network, we are use to a low latency environment, we are going to be pushed back into the 56k experience because of this (just look at Fear 2 and OFP:DR - because this is exactly what is happening right now). You cannot host a 32 man server on a local house hold connection, you need at least 1.5 to 2 gigs of upload bandwidth speed for it to be a seamless experience.
You know what happens when you don't have dedicated servers on PC? You start playing games online with people with a ping of 120 or higher, the experience becomes saturated, lagged, and not enjoyable. We are used to a seamless lag free network, we are use to a low latency environment, we are going to be pushed back into the 56k experience because of this (just look at Fear 2 and OFP:DR - because this is exactly what is happening right now). You cannot host a 32 man server on a local house hold connection, you need at least 1.5 to 2 gigs of upload bandwidth speed for it to be a seamless experience.
First I was like 'oh cool Steam support' and then I was like 'what'.
And they wanna charge 60 bucks.
And they wanna charge 60 bucks.
Why is everyone complaining. CoD was meant to be played on a console in the first place. They just happened to port it to the PC, so it's no wonder I'm seeing people complain about earlier PC CoD versions.
we now have 20 000 people and growing fast please spread the word every where.
http://modernwarfare2.net/pc-gamers-unite-and-cancel-your-mw2-pre-orders/
http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=121918&start=50
http://modernwarfare2.net/pc-gamers-unite-and-cancel-your-mw2-pre-orders/
http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=121918&start=50
Eh. I wasn't too entirely interested in this to begin with, but it's good to hear that I'll be able to hold onto my money.
For all the people who are crying elitism, get off your "I'm not an elitist" high-horse, because you're essentially practicing what you're preaching against. While matchmaking definitely has its own place in the gaming world, so do dedicated servers, and I'd argue they have a much more important place in it. They provide a hub for like-minded gamers to get together and play consistently, for one. You get to know people who consistently come to the same server, and even those who you don't strike up a friendship with you still know better than some random John Doe from the CTF game last night, and it helps build a genuine community. Not to mention previously stated complaints about ping levels, clan battles, custom maps (I can't not play on the all-Goldeneye map CSS server I frequent) and so on so forth. PC gamers are throwing a fit about this for a good reason, without a doubt.
For all the people who are crying elitism, get off your "I'm not an elitist" high-horse, because you're essentially practicing what you're preaching against. While matchmaking definitely has its own place in the gaming world, so do dedicated servers, and I'd argue they have a much more important place in it. They provide a hub for like-minded gamers to get together and play consistently, for one. You get to know people who consistently come to the same server, and even those who you don't strike up a friendship with you still know better than some random John Doe from the CTF game last night, and it helps build a genuine community. Not to mention previously stated complaints about ping levels, clan battles, custom maps (I can't not play on the all-Goldeneye map CSS server I frequent) and so on so forth. PC gamers are throwing a fit about this for a good reason, without a doubt.
@Kaspar
Can you explain to me how this is a good thing? PC users have had a system in place that has worked for well over 15 years, server browsers are the easiest way to get into a game with the amount of players you want and the ping your looking for. Ok so fine let's keep the matchmaking after all it's not a total loss, but why get rid of dedicated servers? Now I have to rely on shitting internet connections to play? Fuck that, 90% of the US has shit for upload speeds from their service providers unless you pay twice your bill in order to get the faster speeds. Also they are gimping their pc market by getting rid mod support, that is what keeps most pc games alive for years, why the hell do you think people still play the original half life? Because of it's millions of mods that completely change the game. This is a huge slap in the face to pc gamers as usual and if I were most people just don't buy this shit, buy the console version if you want a console experience, stick to games that are made specifically with pc users in mind and not just lame ports.
Can you explain to me how this is a good thing? PC users have had a system in place that has worked for well over 15 years, server browsers are the easiest way to get into a game with the amount of players you want and the ping your looking for. Ok so fine let's keep the matchmaking after all it's not a total loss, but why get rid of dedicated servers? Now I have to rely on shitting internet connections to play? Fuck that, 90% of the US has shit for upload speeds from their service providers unless you pay twice your bill in order to get the faster speeds. Also they are gimping their pc market by getting rid mod support, that is what keeps most pc games alive for years, why the hell do you think people still play the original half life? Because of it's millions of mods that completely change the game. This is a huge slap in the face to pc gamers as usual and if I were most people just don't buy this shit, buy the console version if you want a console experience, stick to games that are made specifically with pc users in mind and not just lame ports.
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