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Muslims shouldn't play games, urges Islamic writer photo

When games are criticized in America, the attack usually comes from some right-wing fundamentalist Christian nutcase. That's not to say that other religions can't get in on the fun, though. Writer Ebrahim Saifuddin believes that videogames are forbidden under Islam, and has the Holy words to back it up. 

Saifuddin quotes the Qur'an to get his point across, such as the worryingly all-inclusive and nonspecific: "There is a man among the people who buys discourses of distracting amusements, so that he may mislead (people) from the Way of Allah, and make a mockery of it. For such people there is a disgraceful punishment." That certainly covers videogames ... and, to be frank, nearly everything that is fun.

According to this writer, Muslims can't enjoy animate objects (living creatures) as represented in games either: "There are hardly any videogames available that do not have any animate objects in them. This again renders them (games) to be impermissible." He adds that, Many a times the female characters in video games are highly inappropriately dressed." A religion that likes to cover its women from head to toe obviously isn't going to condone Dead or Alive Paradise

"Distraction from obedience to Allah" is also a problem for Saifuddin, as he believes some Muslims will forgo prayer in order to keep playing a game. This, of course, is often the main reason why religious folk attack games, books or movies -- it's not that they're really worried about Harry Potter promoting witchcraft, it's that they're jealous of kids reading those books instead of the ones God scribbled in. 

In any case, Saifuddin has some interesting ideas, and if he feels games don't line up with his beliefs, that's cool. All this article does, however, is remind me to be grateful that I don't subscribe to any magical thinking myself. Getting to enter some vague paradise cooked up by desert-dwelling cultists several thousand years ago simply isn't worth missing out on Kirby's Epic Yarn. If I couldn't play that, I'd already be in Hell.

Are Videogames Permissible in Islam? [Via GamePolitics]








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AlphaJC's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:43
AlphaJC
uuuum...... why is there a baby where the destructoid head goes?? LOL, random baby head.
RudyChan's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:44
RudyChan
PRAISE ALLAH! AALALALALALALALALALAAA!!
Linktrigger's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:45
Linktrigger
I was hoping you would replace a destructoid head with that black box in the picture. Hilarity would ensue.
Jay Me's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:46
Jay Me
It's the Meccabox 360.
007's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:46
007
As a muslim, this Saifuddin guy offends me... it's because of people like him (and ignorant hicks, of course), that Islam gets a bad rep in today's world.
shindubhe's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:46
shindubhe
lol i love it when people get to use vague statements in old books to tell people what they should and what they shouldnt do. The more vague the bigger the umbrella yay!
Max-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:48
Max-
It's interesting I have to say, though as long as he's not dictating to people what they should/shouldn't do.

Also, what is with the perverted looking baby?
Startyde's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:49
Startyde
Um, it's historically the left who tries to regulate gaming in the US, ala Joe Leiberman and Hilary Clinton. But okay.
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:49
Daxelman
When in doubt, discordism has free hot dogs.
Lakitu's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:49
Lakitu
@Jim

Don't forget leftist censorship nutjobs like Hillary Clinton.
Minios's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:51
Minios
Isn't Saifuddin an unlockable character in Mortal Kombat?

Might be thinking of someone else...
TheOldHouse's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:51
TheOldHouse
Must really suck being a Muslim right now. Not exactly viewed in the best light.
Conor Elsea's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:52
Conor Elsea
lolreligion.

God's not real. Deal with it.
Blahblahblahblah's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:52
Blahblahblahblah
Lol, religion...
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:54
Elsa
I've always found it interesting how any religious text can be twisted to mean whatever someone wants it to mean.
Losari's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:55
Losari
@Jon Bloodspray

Let's not do that.
Bill Bennett's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:56
Bill Bennett
All religions have the same type of people that will take a vague statement from their holy texts and construe it for their own purpose or gain. That's why I have no interest in any of them. Trouble is, statements like Saifuddins' will influence people to their own detriment.
JQM78's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:58
JQM78
LOL....religion......the downfall of society.....and the crutch for the weak minded......
PDawgy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:58
PDawgy
All hail the mighty black cube!
falsenipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:58
falsenipple
First the editors say they hate Al-Qaeda, next they take on Islamic Fundamentalist ideas towards video games. This isn't going to end well, although your regular comment trolls are obnoxious, you may not want to bark up this tree.
SourGr8pes's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 14:58
SourGr8pes
Man, those hardliners sure love to party! So what is it these guys do for fun anyways?
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:00
Sexualchocolate
Ah, the time where simple books of fiction were taken as the word of some imaginary "creator".

This whole thing has gone way too far.

Remember people, God, if he does exist, didn't write a single word!
pneuma08's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:01
pneuma08
To be fair, the argument is that frivolous things like games shouldn't be overshadowing the important things in life, which I think is a rational argument - and not necessarily restricted to the religious. I mean, if you had a kid who wasn't doing schoolwork because they were playing Dragon Quest for hours on end, that would be a problem, wouldn't it?
zeezeezee's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:02
zeezeezee
LOL im a muslim and i think what this guy said is fucking stupid, and hilarious, he obviously nvr played a game before in his life
Gabriel Silverwolf's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:03
Gabriel Silverwolf
People like this issued a fatwa against Mickey Mouse a few years ago, and rather than get infuriated at their idiocy, all I could think of was the movie Dogma and the whole Mooby the Cow thing and I laughed my ass off. Seriously, nobody listens to these jackoffs; I assure you the Muslim gamers I know would rather anger God than let their MW2 score slide. Prayer time? Hang on, God... I almost got the tactical nuke.
Sobaskets's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:03
Sobaskets
I am so deeply offended that you wrote the word Islam on that demon machine and published it on the evil network of lies called the "Interwebs" that I'm pretty sure I speak on behalf of the entire Islam nation and the internet community when I say....

I'm offended.
Domii's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:04
Domii
this guy is out of his fucking mind.Hearing this from a idiot who believes in a absurd religion that covers women from head to toe making them look like ninjas or ghost makes me LOL,,GAMES ARE GOOD IDIOTS AND THEY'RE HERE TO STAY SO FUCK OFF HATERS AND LET PEOPLE ENJOY GAMES
Ryuuga's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:06
Ryuuga
What?? God??? *Goes back to playing Godville*
T-rav's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:06
T-rav
I would hope that the editors here would know better than to write something that would incite a religious flamewar, for the sake of us all.

I guess not.
Rashed Mokdad's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:07
Rashed Mokdad
Wooow as a Muslim who plays videogsmes and prays 5 times a day I find this very insulting why is it people think just because we believe in god suddenly we can't have fun? I watch movies, anime, and play videogames and for the last time all of this is fictional! Geez
CryptArc's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:08
CryptArc
This is all such bullshit. Pure man-made bullshit. As if his interpretation of the Qur’an is the only correct one.
Max-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:08
Max-
Just read the full article and yeah...this guy sounds like a bit of a knob, with the whole (not a real quote) "Videogames are heresy I say, ban this sick filth!" claiming and so on.

Now excuse my whilst I go play some Metal Gear Solid 4, seeming as he liked to bag on that game for it's "extreme violence" and "hinted child rape".
BattyAdroit's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:08
BattyAdroit
@T-Rav> Why should they be bullied into daring not to offend a religion? How pathetic would that be?
Velt's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:09
Velt
fundamentalists shouldnt exist.
But hey, most of us live in free countries were idiots say stupid things against our freedom, the irony...
Fullmetalfox's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:09
Fullmetalfox
Ah, Islam...
It hates everything that is good: Women, Alcohol, Free Speech, Democracy and Puppies.
Doesn't surprise me that they hate Videogames too.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:11
JACK of No Trades
Im so glad I don't live my life based on a ancient book written by men that thought the Earth was flat, thought the sun revolved around the Earth, didn't know about germs/viruses/atoms, thinks blind faith is more important than scientific facts, thinks god is a giant white man with a beard and deep voice..................


Please go away religion. We humans will be better off without you.
nukethewhales's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:11
nukethewhales
This is why religious people bother me:

Are you perfectly okay with a God that will send your family and friends to an eternity of torment simply for playing videogames, or having premarital sex, or believing in science, despite your "God" never having made his existence or the consequences crystal clear? I wouldn't. Does that make me better than you? Yes, yes it does.
bricewgilbert's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:12
bricewgilbert
Sure we can all say that anything in these "holy" texts can be twisted to fit whatever people want. And in some cases that is true (and in some it's quite clear), but really what this shows is that these books aren't holy in any way. They are obviously man made and not worth the paper they are printed on.
otikik's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:13
otikik
Mandatory Minchinness required!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaLF8UGr0hQ
Daxelman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:16
Daxelman
Really though, lets stop with the religion hate. Nobody knows anything, everybody has faith in something. People just choose to believe different things, whether they be God or science or Adrian Brody.
Rhuno's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:16
Rhuno
Religion is the root of all evil. Zealots have somehow managed to convince a large portion of the population, some of whom are actually quite intelligent in other respects, that an imaginary friend is more important than the lives of other people.

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion." - Steven Weinberg
pneuma08's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:16
pneuma08
Addendum that probably shouldn't be necessary: I agree that in this case the argument goes too far, but I that just means I don't share their views. I don't agree with the Amish or the Vegans either, but that doesn't mean that they're terrible people, or even wrong to take such a hardline stance in what they feel is important.

Also, it is important to note that what one person says in a group is not necessarily what the group supports, especially when you get more and more generic. Not every fundamentalist would agree with this dude, let alone every Muslim let alone the religious.

@Bill Bennett: I don't follow your logic. EVERY text of laws of any organization has someone who follows said law and also exploits said law, secular or religious - does none of that have any value in any context? It's like not shopping at any retail store because somewhere there is a jerk working at each of them.
Sæglópur's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:16
Sæglópur
I'm all for religious freedom. I often blame my own country for many issues in the world. However, the middle east is known for harsh treatment of women, honor killings, among many other things that are not socially acceptable in any fashion whatsoever. They've used religion as nothing more than a chain and cuffs to oppress their people. While it's fine to be spiritual and not give in to sin. It's not fine to dictate people purely based on your religious beliefs, which is why the seperation of church and state is the way we do things in America. Mixing religious beliefs with power is a dangerous combo.
Drakengard's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:17
Drakengard
Yay! Religion bashing in Destructoid comments. Nothing I've never heard before and still as wrong as they've ever been.

That said, I don't care what this guy says. If you believe him then believe him. If you don't, then don't.
JQM78's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:17
JQM78
Osama Bin Laden plays farmville.
brownjohn's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:17
brownjohn
Lol atheism...
JohnJN's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:18
JohnJN
Xkabba 360.

Someone make this picture now!
Sæglópur's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:19
Sæglópur
Also, "right-wing fundamentalist Christian".

Those who you are talking about are actually neocons, not true right-wing conservatives.

Anyways, become a libertarian and everyone will see a little bit clearer.
Neo Gio's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/26/2010 15:19
Neo Gio
Just add to the list of things they can't do.
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