A stereotypical view of Japan is that of a culture in which new and quirky technology is embraced. However, there's another stereotypical view in which the Japanese support homegrown products over filthy roundeye devilry. Whichever stereotype is at play here depends on whether you think Move is innovative, or a "me-too" copycat.
The borderline-racist opening paragraph is a fancy way of saying that PlayStation Move is outselling Microsoft's Kinect in Japan, but a considerable amount. Figures put the peripheral at a 2:1 advantage, as the Xbox 360 fails yet again to gain much traction in the birthplace of Sony and Nintendo. Move cleared 170,000 sales, while Kinect pulled in 90,000.
Interestingly, both peripherals were trumped by Torne, a DVR add-on for the PS3. It's suddenly become the best-selling peripheral of the year with 784,000 sales already.
As far as Move vs. Kinect goes, Japan seems to be the exception. Elsewhere, Kinect is being named the fastest selling electronic in history, and generally seems to be beating everything else. In fact, Sony is still refusing to release sales data for Move in the US, leading us to reasonably speculate that it compares embarrassingly to Kinect.
Kinect Beaten by Move Beaten by Torne [andriasang]
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10:20 AM on 04.11.2011 | 
I'd like to know how many Kinect buyers are still using the thing without any games. Right now it might as well be a Dance Central specific perhipheral.
$50,000,000 in marketing goes a long way apparently.
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I also love how Japanese people not embracing the Xbox is seen as some kind of racist avoidance of American products, while Americans shunning the PS3 is just normal, fine and dandy.
I mean American's aren't racist, it's all those different, Non-american races that are racist. LOL.
- 1 Kinect camera
- each Move controller(so Move-chuck and Move-mote are 2 separate controllers)
and the fact that you need several Move controllers to play Wii games...i'm sorry Move games while you only need one Kinect cam i would say it's actual win for Microsoft especially if you consider instalbase of each console.
- 1 Kinect camera
- each Move controller(so Move-chuck and Move-mote are 2 separate controllers)
and the fact that you need several Move controllers to play Wii games...i'm sorry Move games while you only need one Kinect cam i would say it's actual win for Microsoft especially if you consider how many ps3 and 360 consoles were sold in japan.
While I agree that I'd like to see how many people are actually still using the damn thing on a regular basis, sales are important.
What's worse? A device that sells a ton and falls to the wayside because it was over-hyped or a device that doesn't sell at all and falls to the wayside simply because it wasn't very good or just doesn't matter to most of the demographic that the product was aimed at?
I mean, at least MS is recouping whatever they spent on the damn thing, or so you'd hope. And yeah, I think it is pathetic that people bought the thing just because Oprah and Ellen and so on marketed the thing, but that doesn't change the fact that it sold.
How many 360s have sold over there? Like 1/10th the amount of PS3s that have sold?
Of course Move sold more, its all about user base.
Sad Move isnt selling so well world wise though. It's an exceptionally better piece of technology than either Kinect or Wii.
I get your saying with "sales = global truth" but I think Jim's point is that this another example of japanese companies absolutely curb stomping any foreign competion as opposed to just beating them in sales..
I mean, cmon, im not seeing any Kinect news. No "Kinect reports" on tv.. there were a few in the beggining, but now the things have cooled off in a way the Nintendo Wii needed 2 years to do.
Fuck! Multiple endings! Is there anything this guy doesant do?
no shit.
more people own ps3's in japan then 360's its almost a no brainier. Next article. Wii breaks 1 million sales?
also i don't care how either one of these things are selling i care about games.
One thing, that isn't many Move units, considering how many PS3s are sold.
Second, considering how little 360 has sold compared to the number of PS3s, a 2:1 is reasonably good. Unless Microsoft expected Kinect to change the 360s situation in Japan, and making it massively popular that is.
I would say, they performed equally bad.
and i still have yet to see a Move title that is better than any game made for Kinect - the best Move title is still just an average Wii Sports knock-off(especially with very poor reviews and current score average in mid 70s).
now let's see what's happening with Kinect:
current weakly sales - 80-90k,
Kinect exclusive software sales(excluding Kinect Adventures) - 100+k copies per week,
20+ Kinect exclusive games coming this year that were already announced with many additional titles that have Kinect exclusive content,
except for the fact that those aren't Move titles - it's just alternative control scheme show me title made FOR Move. Singstar Dance?
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-70-3qo8.html
$130 is a little much for something that doesn't stand on its own, but considering that PS3 hard drives are upgradeable and easily switched I guess it's a whole hell of a lot better than being stuck with one drive, or even better you can move it from one system to the next if you machine bricks.
/shrug
I love you, Jim Sterling, but in this particular case, I just want to say "fuck you".
(based on there being 6.5M PS3s and 1.5M 360s in Japan according to VG Chartz).
Opinion: Both Kinect and Move will soon share a grim fate in the retail bargain bin. #shoveltech
Motion controllers should have stayed with the Wii only. I do for some reason have a very big dislike for the Kinect, it seems to have put Microsoft down the path of kiddies games machine now. The only thing MS have going for it this year is Gears 3, and my enthusiasm for that game is somewhat lacking. I am sure somehow it will be a good game, but if only MS killed the new idea of promoting the Kinect and focus on what made them, games, I would have more respect for them and start playing their games and the 360 again.
besides all the japan racist they don´t buy American products.. Like yea if you think American chauvinism hasn´t been a major factor in the xbox succes, you are poor naive human been
So if your reasoning goes to sales = good then you must think the Wii kicks Xbox's ass?
Theres probably millions of people listening to Justin Bieber too
Didn't Sony say Move was going to be a slow starter? Did Sony put half a billion into Move marketing? Who was Sony targeting with Move again?
*rolls eyes*
I find it incredibly funny that news will cover this stuff time and again, in the lead up to release. Everyone knows exactly how it's going to play out, and then when the sales data comes in, showing exactly what every party involved had been saying for weeks....everyone's all shocked and awed.
Btw, the best selling piece of electronics in history is the personal computer. 200-300 Million units and counting!
If so, this article should be more about how Sony (not unlike many business, but to a more stomach-churning degree of severity and frequency) only publishes numbers that make them "look good" -- interestingly though, like another commenter pointed out, considering the install base and units sold/game (multiple move hardware units are usually needed), this doesn't make Sony look all that great.
Whatever though, this will tide me over until they announce that they've got a 1000% sales lead on MS in terms of non-Xbox console sales, worldwide. Good on you, Sony. Good on you.
This, along with a few similar comments above, is like the only truth in this entire comment chain.