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Was officially the best thing ever when I first saw it a couple days ago. Is still, in fact, the best thing ever.
Additionally, if you love video games you owe Mother 3 to yourself, because it is beautiful.
Additionally, if you love video games you owe Mother 3 to yourself, because it is beautiful.
@ Paperclip- I don't know, but a cute little version of Lady Rainicorn would make a great rope snake.
Mother 3 - Yes
Adventure Time - Yes
Mother 3 Adventure Time - VERY YES.
This coincides perfectly with my re-playthrough of Mother 3, and reminds me to watch more Adventure Time.
Adventure Time - Yes
Mother 3 Adventure Time - VERY YES.
This coincides perfectly with my re-playthrough of Mother 3, and reminds me to watch more Adventure Time.
@Holmes
Thank you for introducing me to adventure time. It's now my favorite cartoon and I've bought both seasons. and..some keychains. Yeah. It's totally math.
Thank you for introducing me to adventure time. It's now my favorite cartoon and I've bought both seasons. and..some keychains. Yeah. It's totally math.
If this were a figment of my imagination, id have its baby.
Also, bubblegum>marceline. Keep it classy, Holmes.
Also, bubblegum>marceline. Keep it classy, Holmes.
Dammit. This picture is making me want to play Mother 3 again.
Last time I played it though hours of progress was lost and I had to start back at the beginning for no reason so it's difficult to go back. I think this is making me want to...
Last time I played it though hours of progress was lost and I had to start back at the beginning for no reason so it's difficult to go back. I think this is making me want to...
No, just no. Adventure Time relies far too heavily on trying to be "aaaaawkaaaaaaaaaard lol" for me to enjoy it.
@ Davoidbot- I have never related with anyone less than I am relating with you right now.
I can't think of one awkward moment in Adventure Time. Finn and Jake seem perpetually comfortable with themselves and each other. There is that one episode about Finn gets embarrassed a lot while seeking a cool suit of armor, I can remember one time when either character seemed to feel "awkward".
I could see how you might think the show is "too strange" or "too random", but too awkward?
I don't get it.
I can't think of one awkward moment in Adventure Time. Finn and Jake seem perpetually comfortable with themselves and each other. There is that one episode about Finn gets embarrassed a lot while seeking a cool suit of armor, I can remember one time when either character seemed to feel "awkward".
I could see how you might think the show is "too strange" or "too random", but too awkward?
I don't get it.
Thanks for giving credit, posting this really made my day. I didn't make the image though, I found it from another blog and just happened to reblog it. I am curious who the original artist is though.
I've never cared for Adventure Time. While I definitely enjoy that it doesn't take itself seriously, I still can't follow the damn plots between episodes. I'm not talking about an overall arc, either, I Just mean how they get from scene to scene. I'll give you that the original Nickelodeon short was great, though.
Kumatora has to be my fav female video character, like, ever.
She acts like a tomboy, doesn't wear any revealing clothes, but still manages to be attractive
She's all around just a enjoyable character
She acts like a tomboy, doesn't wear any revealing clothes, but still manages to be attractive
She's all around just a enjoyable character
Actually, how many good role models are there in gaming, period? Shouldn't it be kind of ok if characters in unrealistic settings are also unrealistic? Honestly, I've always thought the objectification that occurs in romantic comedies/dramatic romance films aimed at women are more damaging, because they look realistic, even if they don't act realistic.
@ pokota- There are a lot of good role models in gaming. If there weren't, I might not love gaming as much as I do.
And there is definitely a reason why I don't write about romantic comedies, or most movies for that matter. I like gaming a lot more than any other form of entertainment, and as such, I guess I expect more out of gaming.
I think gaming is the future of entertainment, which is big responsibility. Still, I think gaming can fill those shoes, in terms of role models and otherwise.
Have you played Mother 3? The game is chock-full of admirable, atypical, thoroughly human characters. Plenty of good role models to be found there.
And there is definitely a reason why I don't write about romantic comedies, or most movies for that matter. I like gaming a lot more than any other form of entertainment, and as such, I guess I expect more out of gaming.
I think gaming is the future of entertainment, which is big responsibility. Still, I think gaming can fill those shoes, in terms of role models and otherwise.
Have you played Mother 3? The game is chock-full of admirable, atypical, thoroughly human characters. Plenty of good role models to be found there.
@Jonathan Holmes
It's not that the characters feel awkward around each other, it is that the show tries to constantly to make the viewer feel awkward through uncommon word usage, direction, and the way characters react to things. To me, it is the same thing as the Progressive commercials.
It's not that the characters feel awkward around each other, it is that the show tries to constantly to make the viewer feel awkward through uncommon word usage, direction, and the way characters react to things. To me, it is the same thing as the Progressive commercials.
I can think of one episode in particular where Adventure Time perpetuates bad female stereotypes. In one show, all of the princesses in the world are captured by the Ice King, until Jake and Finn (the powerful men) come and save them - the princesses cower in fear, and one even throws herself at Jake, offering sex and marriage at the episode's conclusion.
Marcelline, I'd argue, isn't really a true "female role model". The only time she's really fearsome is when she turns into her gruesome masculine forms (a werewolf and a vampire bat). Even in her half-bat form, she's still "masculine".
IMO, not really a good show for the advancement of females. But then again, what is, sadly.
Marcelline, I'd argue, isn't really a true "female role model". The only time she's really fearsome is when she turns into her gruesome masculine forms (a werewolf and a vampire bat). Even in her half-bat form, she's still "masculine".
IMO, not really a good show for the advancement of females. But then again, what is, sadly.
@ NotGeoff- Me too.
@ Davoidbot- That makes more sense.
Well, to me, Adventure Time doesn't make me feel even slightly awkward. It actually makes me feel incredibly comfortable, and the characters talk and react to things much as I imagine I might in their situations.
So I guess you just don't relate with them. I can't fault you for that.
And I've never seen the Progressive commercials, but now I'll be looking for them. :)
@ Davoidbot- That makes more sense.
Well, to me, Adventure Time doesn't make me feel even slightly awkward. It actually makes me feel incredibly comfortable, and the characters talk and react to things much as I imagine I might in their situations.
So I guess you just don't relate with them. I can't fault you for that.
And I've never seen the Progressive commercials, but now I'll be looking for them. :)
@Magnalon - Disappeared from the internets about a year ago... says he was busy with school but nobody has seen him since. Hope you're OK buddy :(
@Jonathan Holmes
I look forward to hearing more about your opinions on role models in games, female or otherwise, then. I admit it's not a subject I've thought a great deal about, since my focus as a child was more on books than gaming, which obviously allows for more complex character descriptions. I did manage a video rental store, however, and used to have frequent talks with female coworkers about the movies they watched, especially when they'd make a comment comparing real life to the latest romantic comedy. And no, I'm sad to say that I've never played Mother 3.
I look forward to hearing more about your opinions on role models in games, female or otherwise, then. I admit it's not a subject I've thought a great deal about, since my focus as a child was more on books than gaming, which obviously allows for more complex character descriptions. I did manage a video rental store, however, and used to have frequent talks with female coworkers about the movies they watched, especially when they'd make a comment comparing real life to the latest romantic comedy. And no, I'm sad to say that I've never played Mother 3.
Found this on my Tumblr feed days ago. Still love to bumping upon this pic.
@Davoidbot
Are you sure you're not talking about Flapjack? Even tho I also like that show. Adventure Time is a little more on anti-moral while being very light hearted.
@Davoidbot
Are you sure you're not talking about Flapjack? Even tho I also like that show. Adventure Time is a little more on anti-moral while being very light hearted.
I just started watching 'Adventure Time' after the end of 'Flapjack', and it's outstanding. Very good writing, and strong voice acting for the two leads. John Dimaggio being awesome is no surprise, but Jeremy Shada is pretty darn top flight for being a young teen.
Unsolicited, well-meant $0.002 section: Think 'big picture' if getting on a soap box about social issues (gender/violence/religion/age) in games. There are always good points out there to be made. Sadly though, a lot of that type of commentary often either boils down to well-meaning but sanctimonious takes, or more usually 'reverse pick-up' material where the author is looking for kudos for being so totally progressive.
This topic started under the Bayonetta post, and there I thought it was extraordinarily odd that while most folks constantly rip (accurately or not) the good ol' US of A for being way too prudish and conservative on sex issues in entertainment, now an overtly tounge-in-check campy game like Bayonetta was offensive to our sensibilities. Entertainment doesn't always have to cater to the LCD, but it shouldn't be run through a constant freshman level 'Gender/Cultural/Etc. Theory' filter either. There are a lot of boosted sex appeal gals in games, true. There's also a lot of hulking, beefcake dudes that don't exactly represent the typical male. And of lot of violence used to solve problems.
Something like the portrayal of Samus in 'Other M' is a sticking point (to me). Not because of sex appeal, but because Samus is presented as a needy, whiny figure; as if that's what one would expect from a female. But unless everybody wants to groove on a game where we control a 70 year-old uni-sex avatar in a negotiating point-and-click game arguing for more global ocean fishing regulations at a subcommittee at the UN, than it's best not to paint with too broad a brush on social/sex matters. If you tug at one string, you can tug at a lot of strings.
In fairness, in terms of cheesecake entertainment, there's no more sex-drenched shows on TV than the day-time soaps and evening medical/lawyer dramas, and those are essentially totally female-aimed. So gals get a healthy slice of fantasy at the entertainment trough as well, and it ain't anymore socially progressive than 'Bayonetta'.
Unsolicited, well-meant $0.002 section: Think 'big picture' if getting on a soap box about social issues (gender/violence/religion/age) in games. There are always good points out there to be made. Sadly though, a lot of that type of commentary often either boils down to well-meaning but sanctimonious takes, or more usually 'reverse pick-up' material where the author is looking for kudos for being so totally progressive.
This topic started under the Bayonetta post, and there I thought it was extraordinarily odd that while most folks constantly rip (accurately or not) the good ol' US of A for being way too prudish and conservative on sex issues in entertainment, now an overtly tounge-in-check campy game like Bayonetta was offensive to our sensibilities. Entertainment doesn't always have to cater to the LCD, but it shouldn't be run through a constant freshman level 'Gender/Cultural/Etc. Theory' filter either. There are a lot of boosted sex appeal gals in games, true. There's also a lot of hulking, beefcake dudes that don't exactly represent the typical male. And of lot of violence used to solve problems.
Something like the portrayal of Samus in 'Other M' is a sticking point (to me). Not because of sex appeal, but because Samus is presented as a needy, whiny figure; as if that's what one would expect from a female. But unless everybody wants to groove on a game where we control a 70 year-old uni-sex avatar in a negotiating point-and-click game arguing for more global ocean fishing regulations at a subcommittee at the UN, than it's best not to paint with too broad a brush on social/sex matters. If you tug at one string, you can tug at a lot of strings.
In fairness, in terms of cheesecake entertainment, there's no more sex-drenched shows on TV than the day-time soaps and evening medical/lawyer dramas, and those are essentially totally female-aimed. So gals get a healthy slice of fantasy at the entertainment trough as well, and it ain't anymore socially progressive than 'Bayonetta'.
@Magnalon - so a woman must be fearsome to be a role model? Can you explain what a female role model is, in your understanding? Additionally, can you explain why you consider her fearful forms to be masculine?
Mother 3 is one of my favorite things, but generally I feel more or less indifferent about everything I've seen of Adventure Time. I don't dislike it or anything, but it has a feel of being absurd for the sake of funny. I don't dislike absurdity, even if the only reason a thing is absurd is to be absurd. What I don't like is when it moves beyond that and into the realm of "trying really really hard to be funny."
I'll admit I've laughed pretty hard at some of the things that happened in Adventure Time, namely the episode with Tree Trunks, but the show is often time incredibly hit or miss with me.
I don't know, I guess part of me thinks that if it is the out-of-this-world feel the show has that there are better shows for that, i.e. Samurai Jack. And if it is the humor, well I think Flapjack was funnier than Adventure Time for sure, as is Brave and the Bold and Sym-Bionic Titan (not necessarily a comedy, but whenever they try for comic relief it is pretty much always successful)...
So yeah, Mother 3 is awesome.
I'll admit I've laughed pretty hard at some of the things that happened in Adventure Time, namely the episode with Tree Trunks, but the show is often time incredibly hit or miss with me.
I don't know, I guess part of me thinks that if it is the out-of-this-world feel the show has that there are better shows for that, i.e. Samurai Jack. And if it is the humor, well I think Flapjack was funnier than Adventure Time for sure, as is Brave and the Bold and Sym-Bionic Titan (not necessarily a comedy, but whenever they try for comic relief it is pretty much always successful)...
So yeah, Mother 3 is awesome.
@ Magnalon- Yeah, I would never tout the princesses from Adventure Time as good role models, or any fair tale princesses for that matter. I see the princesses in Adventure Time as being straight parody of the "damsel in distress" sterotype that most kids grow up seeing as the norm, and parodies are rarely good role models.
That said, I think the show does well to use those princesses to make a point about the standard of beauty. Each of those princesses is presumably "desirable" yet each looks totally different; one's a little slime, one is a rag doll that's missing an eye, etc. That's a lot better than the unilateral look we get from the Disney Princesses.
And I totally disagree about Marcaline. Have you seen all three episodes that she stars in? Her story arc is pretty awesome. She goes from being a terrifying villain to a sympathetic, endearing character. She's totally multi-dimensional.
More than anything, that's what I think we need from our videogame characters (male and female) -- multiple dimensions.
@ KingSoup- You make a lot of strong points. My goal with Constructoid is to be constructive, and to start discussion, so I'm doing my best to be more positive than nit-picky, and more open ended than "sanctimonious".
And I never finished Other M, so I wont be talking about that. I stopped playing once I got to the lava zone. I'm sure I'll pick it up again someday.
That said, I think the show does well to use those princesses to make a point about the standard of beauty. Each of those princesses is presumably "desirable" yet each looks totally different; one's a little slime, one is a rag doll that's missing an eye, etc. That's a lot better than the unilateral look we get from the Disney Princesses.
And I totally disagree about Marcaline. Have you seen all three episodes that she stars in? Her story arc is pretty awesome. She goes from being a terrifying villain to a sympathetic, endearing character. She's totally multi-dimensional.
More than anything, that's what I think we need from our videogame characters (male and female) -- multiple dimensions.
@ KingSoup- You make a lot of strong points. My goal with Constructoid is to be constructive, and to start discussion, so I'm doing my best to be more positive than nit-picky, and more open ended than "sanctimonious".
And I never finished Other M, so I wont be talking about that. I stopped playing once I got to the lava zone. I'm sure I'll pick it up again someday.
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