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More rumors that the DS2 is real and more powerful photo

While the DSi XL hasn't even hit store shelves in the U.S., rumors of a succesor to the DS line of gaming systems have been circulating since last year, when we learned that the new system could be landing this year. Even more recently, we've heard rumors of dev kits for the system being in developer's hands at this very moment. Where better to get confirmation of this fact than at a conference for game developers that is full of said game developers? Raymond Padilla thought just that, and asked around. He got a lot of interesting answers.

According to his sources at GDC, the DS2 is indeed in developer's hands and they are not having any trouble developing for it. This is because it's practically a GameCube, power-wise, and everyone knows how to develop for that because they've already done it (here comes the Wii insult) twice (burn). This is a little strange, since the DS is a chip-based system, but he reports that "the people familiar with the dev kit made it sound like there wasn't much of a learning curve on the new system" and that devs who "worked on GameCube or Wii games will find it easy to create with."

Padilla also gathered that the DS2 has a built in accelerometer and two bigger, higher resolution screens that are closer together so that they can be more easily used as one screen. The biggest bit of news, however, is that the devs all say that they'll be done with their games by the end of 2010, meaning we very well might be seeing an announcement at this year's E3 and a roll out of the new handheld by the end of the year.

The DSi is still going really strong, so I'm not sure why Nintendo would need to do this, but as they've proven plenty of times before, people are willing to buy new DSes over and over. With the DS2 being an actual upgrade in system power, it wouldn't surprise me to see this one fly off the shelves just as quickly. I know I'd be getting one.

We'll end this with one word: RUMOR.

Nintendo DS2 Information Unearthed at GDC 2010 [Raymond Padilla, via Shacknews, via 1Up]








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Diyomaro's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:04
Diyomaro
This is great news if it's true. It SHOULD be backwards compatible, and now I don't have to buy a DS(1)
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:10
Chronic Logic
Two screens aren't enough, we need THREE screens!
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:10
RenegadePanda
Awesome. I was getting pretty sick of this DSi anyway.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:17
The Silent Protagonist
In before all the crabbing about it being too soon, too often and blah, blah, blah.

So long as I can play my old DS games on it, I'm ready for the next one. I do hope they have a Game Boy, GBA and DS channel on this version, that's all that's really lacking on DSi.
TheDirtyHobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:21
TheDirtyHobo
This is good news if it's as easily hackable as the last one (i.e. still cartridge technology). I enjoy having a massive variety of games to play when traveling and only actually paying for a few gems worth owning.
AwesomeJon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:22
AwesomeJon
This sounds promising. I wouldn't mind seeing remakes of a few of the better gamecube games.
tvirusgetz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:24
tvirusgetz
i dont know why but my first thought when i heard "as powerful as a gamecube" was capcom remaking re4....again
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:24
Los255
If it ain't backwards compatible, I will rage from here to the 9 circles of Hell.
bluexy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:29
bluexy
Am I the only one that's completely happy with the DS staying at just the processing power it is right now? It's like jumping from the SNES to the 64 all over again. :(
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:35
Monodi
@Los255

Aye, I got quite a collection, so it would be a shame to be stuck.
agentarsenic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:37
agentarsenic
It's time for a new handheld. The DS has been out since 2004 - so it will be about six year gap when the DS2 releases.

I, for one, wouldn't mind some decent 3d in a handheld! Pocket Gamecube would rule.
KalosBlue's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:40
KalosBlue
I still own a launch day DS phat. I knew once the DSLite was announced (especially the DSi) a DS2 was coming soon. I expect an announcement by E3
esin's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:41
esin
"I, for one, wouldn't mind some decent 3d in a handheld!"

Yeah, it sure would be great if Sony tried something like that.
Oh, wait..
esin's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:42
esin
"I, for one, wouldn't mind some decent 3d in a handheld!"

Yeah, it sure would be great if Sony tried something like that.
Oh, wait..
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:49
Super Drybones
How about a way to play the games o the big screen. PLEASE I HAVE BAD EYES!!!
omnislayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 03:53
omnislayer
Wowzers... and the PSP with its 10 year life cycle won't see a substantial upgrade until 2014... yeah right haha.
ace of knaves's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 04:02
ace of knaves
?elbitapmoC

See what I did there? Yeah, I'm tired.
pentimento's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 04:07
pentimento
I've been considering buying a DSi XL but it sounds like I should wait to find out whether these rumours are true.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 04:33
pedrovay2003
I definitely wouldn't mind a GameCube in my pocket. Luigi's Mansion 2 with stylus controls, please.
lewness's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 04:35
lewness
I, on the other, has just started pondering about a DSi purchase. Skip?
CUDpwns's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 04:36
CUDpwns
I would love to see a portable gamecube but i doubt they would use optical discs for the DS2 games but maybe if its possible some gamecube game remakes for the DS2.

I would love to see a DS successor but the end of the year might be too soon for Nintendo with their sales still going strong for the current DS.
Berial's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 05:38
Berial
Going to buy The "XL" when it comes out even if my gut tells me to wait for this rumor to be confirmed.

My DSlite's L shoulder button doesn't work anymore, so I must have a new DS soon. Pocket Gamecube... :) it sounds so nice
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 05:38
ArrestedDeveloper
As long as the next one lets me play my Ace Attorney games, I'm excited.
Chardan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 05:54
Chardan
Maybe the new Pokemon game will use this technology, if it turns out to be true as no images for the games have been shown off yet.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 05:58
Aaron Mxy Yost
If they let me synch to my Wii and play all the Virtual Console games I've purchased, I'm totally down.
Markusdragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 06:07
Markusdragon
I hope it's true; I still haven't replaced my poor old Phat, so I've got a decrepit, falling apart handheld to replace sometime in the next year or two. I almost gave in and bought an XL...
Zepwich's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 06:23
Zepwich
I really hope they stick with the dual screens etc. Tbh I would be happy if they used the same shell.
Dynamic Sheep's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 07:02
Dynamic Sheep
The DS2 will have two twelve inch HD widescreen OLED screens that connect seamlessly aside from a small break in the joint. It'll have a built in accelerometer, rumble, pedometer, 4GB internal storage, and 3G wireless internet. It'll have four cameras... two on the inside and two on the outside for project Natal like motion-controlled Augmented Reality type games. RUMOR
PEICanada7's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 07:12
PEICanada7
Sounds good. E3 should be interesting this year!
Pudge Controls the Weather's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 07:15
Pudge Controls the Weather
I'd probably kill for a pocket Gamecube.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 07:23
Xzyliac
Not soon enough. Release it now so we can get the better version by next year. No seriously.
augustoaag's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 07:26
augustoaag
Maybe Nintendo needs something for his EEE not to be a failure.

An announcement of a ds2 would OWN natal or sonymove.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 07:33
Jon B
Now just imagine if this could play Gamecube games.

Dear god. Yes.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 07:36
Wedge
If only.
Jaffacakelover's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 07:37
Jaffacakelover
@KalosBlue: I wouldn't call the 4 years since the DSLite was released "Coming soon".

TheDirtyHobo: Sadly, I thought the same thing (rather than thinking about new games). I'd love to play Sonic 3 & Knuckles and The Dig (both of which I own legally, thank you very much) properly on the move!
Korolev's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 07:50
Korolev
If the DSLite taught me anything, it's that I should not buy a nintendo hand held console on day one. Rather, I should buy the improved version within one or two years.
VGFreak1225's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 07:54
VGFreak1225
New DS with new features? Hooray!

The fact that I've been desperately needing to replace my broken DS lite and now I don't know if I buy a DSi XL or to wait and see if there's a new one?

Groan...
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 07:55
Tarvu
Yeah well I ordered a DSi this week, and now it seems the next one is just around the corner. Gorammit.
Tyrian3's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 08:50
Tyrian3
I knew I was right in not upgrading to my Lite to a DSi. New DS this year? sweeeet! GameCube in your hands? DO WANT!
PS: I, for one, don't care about backwards compatibility.
Guncannon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 08:51
Guncannon
Aren't Gamecube discs about the size of a UMD? That would be some pretty amazing backwards compatibility if they could reuse that tech.

Also, will this be another nail in the PSP's coffin?
MasterBalls's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 09:05
MasterBalls
Rumour it may be, but some pretty coherent rumors.

The Pokemon Company being alleged to have a dev kit for this, then announcing a brand new generation of Pokemon games, usually console specific (GB/GBC/GBA/DS) though the first two you could argue were on the same handheld.

Then the rumours also saying it wouldn't be shown at GDC, which it hasn't been.

It just seems to likely to be untrue. The DS has been out for 6 years now, and in my opinion the DSi XL is a throwaway iteration for a niche audience who doesn't already have a DS; it's both the paradigm and obvious opposite of the GBA Micro.

Oh yeah and, portable Gamecube = portable Wind Waker = jizz in my pants.
Chardan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 09:17
Chardan
Im Commander Shepard and MasterBalls has my favorite comment on this article.
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 09:39
Crunshii
what Xzyliac. Seriously I just put my reservation for the DSi XL and now this. I feel I have been missing out on the 6 years of all the DS games. I guess might as well cancel until these news are confirmed or not.

Don't want to spend $200 for a XL if the new system is around the corner with better graphics.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 09:47
EdgyDude
@esin: i think he meant a decent handheld without gouging you for $250 and with more games

@lewness, VGFreak1225: i'd skip for at least until E3, yeah
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 10:09
BluDesign
This imminent DS2 announcement has me wondering if I should consider the DSi XL or just wait.

I have old eyes and I am clearly not a child, so I would appreciate a large stylus that is like a pen.

So, everything about the DSi XL is appealing to me. Better battery life, humongous screens, ginormous stylus.

And here we have all this rumor stuff with the DS2. It must have large screens, must have at least DS-backwards compatibility (I think this is guaranteed since we've always had this with each new hardware revision...)

My only question... Will the first gen system be worth it? There's such a vast library of games to play on the DS now, will we feel the need to go to the new one? It was a painful process to peel ourselves off of the GBA and move to the DS. I see the same here.

In fact, it almost double reinforces my reasons for getting an XL. If there is a new system coming at the end of the year, there has to be a large amount of new features and content that will be available on day one for me to get all excited about getting it day one.

I've already been proven right about being too early to the party here on this. I sold my DS Phat about 3 months after I bought it. Sold my original PSP a year after I got it. Getting a handheld too early hasn't borne out well for me.

So. If they show up at E3 and say that we get GBA/GB games on this thing on the DSiWare store, then yeah, I might feel a twinge of buyers remorse, but I doubt it'll be as bad as it could be.
Jarmel's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 10:19
Jarmel
If they increase the resolution to semi-decent levels and increase the graphics, then I'm all onboard. Looking forward to an announcement at E3.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 10:20
Cowboy TTop
I still have my DS Phat and Lite. I knew that from the moment Nintendo launched the DSi, that they were going to milk it til it burnt out. Like Masterballs said, DSXL is a last breate of reusing that tech, before DS2.

Seeing as E3 is close, I'd exepct an announcement/finished product then for DS2, with a possible end of 2010 launch. Nintendo know Apple are hot on their heels with iPhone/touch/pad, with a new version probably out in June 2010. DS2 would want to combat that. If Nintendo can make it more open to indie development, that can only weigh in their favour (doubtful at best.

That's right Nintendo, whip that GC tech some more. I'll still buy one anyway, as I need more Ouendan.
MowDownJoe's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 10:59
MowDownJoe
Am I the only one who is wondering about those DSi exclusive games that were supposed to come out? Y'know, not the ones that use camera gimmicks, but rather ones that take advantage of the DSi's extra RAM and those extra WiFi security settings?
Smitty's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 11:02
Smitty
want want want!
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/14/2010 11:12
Dan CiTi
I would be disappointed if the DS2 was a whole lot more powerful than the DSi. Then maybe they could remake the World Ends With You with good controls.
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