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More Nintendo console rumors about hardware, touch screen photo

French site 01net has revealed information about the new Nintendo console, thanks to a source who previously detailed Sony's NGP before it was announced. The same source earlier talked about Nintendo's upcoming E3 unveiling, which was reported by other sources on the internet as well.

The new Nintendo console is said to be codenamed "Project Café," possibly in an attempt to screw around with American bloggers who don't have the combination for the é key at the ready. The controller will be a tablet kind of controller in "standard definition" or at least sub-720p. Apparently it's supposed to be akin to an über version of the Dreamcast's VMU -- that little display thing you inserted in your controller.

The controller itself is said to include a 6" single-touch screen, d-pad, "L and R," two triggers, and "others." The functionality of the Wii's sensor bar has now been integrated into the controller, which would mean that you'd just use your controller as a sensor bar for Wiimote gameplay. It would a sport a front facing camera.

Also, because it's Nintendo we're talking about here, the cost of this controller is said to be "modest" and we shouldn't expect iPad levels of power or performance here. They call it an "iPad with buttons" for lack of a better term. 01net's source also elaborated on the hardware specs of the console itself.

The architecture would be similar to the Xbox 360 with a custom IBM PowerPC three core CPU, and "probably" an ATI R700 series GPU with shader model 4.1 support (i.e., higher than the 360's shader model 3.0 support). You can easily spin the shader model stuff into the console being more powerful than an Xbox 360, so if this is true that's something to keep in mind for the future.

This architecture would also allow for easier porting of titles developed for the 360, which has a similar architecture, and that would also make it much more interesting for third party developers to develop for Nintendo's new console as well (or just port old stuff over). Sources close to Blu-ray.com are also claiming that Nintendo is looking into Bluray for its medium of choice.

01net's sources tell them that Project Café has another big surprise coming up, but that is as of yet shrouded in mystery. All of this doesn't sound too far-fetched, as it would allow for a more developer-friendly current-gen console to take over from the Wii's struggling hardware sales. And it gives Nintendo a strong boost for the next couple of years while Microsoft and Sony scratch their heads over how to approach their next generation consoles.

Project Café : la Wii 2 de Nintendo aura une tablette pour manette [01net via Develop]








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onomatapedalo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:48
onomatapedalo
Well, it's probably the only thing they *can* do seeing that 3D is not yet common for HDTVs.
Sonic9jct's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:48
Sonic9jct
If "and others" means four face buttons, a start, and select, I'm in.
deaddays's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:49
deaddays
Love Nintendo because they're always a cut above with their new hardware. It doesn't always pan out, but you just never know what to expect! Thumbs up from me and they always get my money sooner or later.
GalacticFerret's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:49
GalacticFerret
Multiple sources told me Nintendo new revolution is a Noose controller.. a condom like device you put in your noose to motion control the next 20 original mario releases they planing for their next console... yeaa f*¨k nintendo
Primo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:50
Primo
it's Unicron!!
Beccy Caine's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:51
Beccy Caine
One of the rare occasions my French degree is useful. Sweet.

Verrrrry interesting.
sofik88's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:52
sofik88
i was skeptical about the controller but this sounds great. ingame HUD and menu on your controller, OS on the controller.
Rockefellow's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:52
Rockefellow
If it doesn't have physical face buttons you can count me out. Goddamn it, I was looking forward to this and this makes me rage.
lAboMbA's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:53
lAboMbA
Damn, it feels like we're back to chasing console rumors again...f'in sweet.

Nintendo memories; Dolphin, Project Reality, Revolution, Atlantis

miscellaneous; Sega Katana, MS Xenon, MS Marz

NOW "Project Café" ??!? --weak.
phazon infusion's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:55
phazon infusion
Something about the name makes me think about the kind of people who bring their MacBooks to starbucks and blog... The final product better not have me thinkin the same thoughts.
shadow2398's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:55
shadow2398
Ok, Now these rumors I find to be more probable, instead of the same old; "its the next greatest thing since sliced bread" rumors that haven't changed since the wii was known as the revolution. Either way, I will keep an eye on things and would love to see what nintendo comes up with next.
Don Cheadle vs the world's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:55
Don Cheadle vs the world
It doesn't qualify as current gen console unless it has dual analogue sticks...
sofik88's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:55
sofik88
@Rockefellow,
they just listed buttons, dude.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:56
Maurice Tan
My sources claim that a new Mario game will be released on the new Nintendo console too!
PEICanada7's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 10:58
PEICanada7
I just love the fact, that you never know what to expect with Nintendo. They think up these batshit crazy things and it turns the industry on its head. Sometimes it doesn't always work out well for them, but lately it has and you got to at least give them props from trying something new. Where would Sony, and Microsoft be, if they didn't have Nintendo to copy from? E3 is going to be Epic this year!
SayWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:01
SayWord
Nintendo better fucken make a console that wins me over. In my opinion the wii was shit and the only good use I got was using the wiimote to shove it up my ass. I guess this also proves that the 360 was old hardware of the bat dude!
Fugly Duckling's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:05
Fugly Duckling
This sounds like a fanboy's wet dream. I don't buy it.
Keres's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:07
Keres
ALT+0233

You're welcome.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:11
Corduroy Turtle
We'll see. So far this doesn't sound all that incredible.
ManWithNoName's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:14
ManWithNoName
It looks to me that the thing will be pricey. After all, you will have 6 inch tablets as controllers. Hope to be wrong.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:15
mix
@Sokif
HUK on the controller would not be good at all. Why would you want to take your eyes off the action that is in front of you to check out your health/ammo/position on a map?

If it has a D-pad it better have two analog sticks....
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:15
mix
@Sokif
HUD on the controller would not be good at all. Why would you want to take your eyes off the action that is in front of you to check out your health/ammo/position on a map?

If it has a D-pad it better have two analog sticks....
CAP's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:15
CAP
Project Café - where gamers come together
therealrider's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:15
therealrider
Arblus, look! It's Unicron!
M47R1X's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:17
M47R1X
I had thought of the idea of a Galaxy Tab sized touchscreen on a controller like the 360 pad (kinda like the GameCube keyboard pad by Sammy) before. I hope it's kinda like that. Not much of a fan for Nintendo since the Ski reared it's anti-core gamer head. And what the shit is with just edging by the 360 in terms of hardware? The 360 is old by now.

You know, Microsoft could just release a controller with a touchscreen in it and be in DIRECT COMPETITION. It's PC based. It'd be easy.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:19
pokota
That controller thing sounds expensive. This is all kind of puzzling, so I don't doubt we only have a small part of the puzzle. So, an Xbox with a Nintendo patented gimmick. Interesting stuff.
M47R1X's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:19
M47R1X
**Wii reared it's anti - core gamer head. Stupid auto-correct.

But seriously Nintendo, I was so disappoint with the Wii.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:22
manasteel88
The reason people keep coming back to the 360 is the online. Higher shading tech doesn't mean a better console. The ps3 is a technophile dream with its high end audio and bluray. Nothing here impresses me. If I wanted to play games with an ipod i would have one.
aminoaccident's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:22
aminoaccident
The unannounced feature is one of those brain monitoring devices like what's seen in some kid's toys these days. You heard it hear first - you think about jumping, Mario jumps.
MeisterLi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:23
MeisterLi
It doesn't sound that amazing - but I think that's to be expected. A "slightly more powerful Xbox360" describes current PCs quite good as well. After all, graphics have pretty much reached a maximum by now. If you look at how the new Unreal engine looks - that's amazing - but if you consider how much money it'll cost to make 5 Minutes of ingame-Scenes... It's not that amazing anymore. The price will limit the graphical fidelity a lot more in the future than the console the games run on, so I think that's quite believable.

As for the controller and it's price - yeah, I can see that happening. Look at cheap Android Phones for example: 600Mhz processor, 3 inch display for around 80 dollars (T-Mobile Pulse Mini) - subtract all the stuff you don't need, such as Camera, GPS and the whole Phone/Mobile Internet part, add a Gyroscope and some more buttons and bam - Controller with a little flexible touchscreen in the middle. Then take into consideration that hardware prices will have plummeted even more by that time and the controller with integrated touchscreen doesn't look that unlikely anymore.
DAVYDOCK's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:31
DAVYDOCK
Cant wait to play Carnival Games and Noel Edmonds' Banker Resort on that bad boy.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:37
mix
@DavyDock
lol
lAboMbA's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:44
lAboMbA
@agentarsenic

Sony's actually patented tech based on brain wave manipulation...way back in '05 i think.

I'd think you'd see Sony lead that charge, not Nintendo.
garison's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:45
garison
Do you guys remember before the WiiMote's (or back then, "Revolution Controller") final form was announced, and nobody really knew what it was going to look like at all, except for the fact that it was going to be unlike anything else on the market?

I was absolutely convinced that they were going to come out with a controller with a touch screen on it.
Fuzunga's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:47
Fuzunga
I'll tell you why this touch screen on the controller is a good idea: it allows for extremely customized controls for each and every game. That being said, I hope this thing still has analog sticks and face buttons.

Anyway, if this new Nintendo console will be able to play Nintendo games AND the kind of games that are available for the 360 and PS3... well, then there's no need for anything else. But Nintendo better get their shit together and provide a decent online experience. I can see that being a crippling blow if they don't.
garison's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:48
garison
Also, I could see a controller with a big touch screen display being a little hard on batteries, don't you think?
JQM78's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:51
JQM78
Ms and sony shot themselves in the fot with move and kinect and trying to copy thr big N. Move and kinect are total busts, just look at the software, there's not even a game for them that compares to Red Steel 2!

If any of these nintendo rumors prove 2 be true, we'll see sony and ms scrambling to emulate nintendo again, only to fail miserably.

Ms and sony should have never invested so much in their motion controllers. They suck anyways. I sold my moves and my kinect, there are no games 4 them worth my time; and by the time they come out, we'll all have moved on anyways.

I like all three systems, so don't get me wrong, but I've been sollid with nintendo since I got my first NES as a kid, back in '86.... so I'm rooting 4 them. I think this new system and the 3DS are a step in the right direction.
Seta Soujiro's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 11:58
Seta Soujiro
i can't wait for this year's E3!!
Ser Fluffywuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 12:00
Ser Fluffywuffles
I'm not even a hater, but that sounds lame. And expensive.
janoDX's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 12:00
janoDX
Nintendo is back?... Please better online...
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 12:02
Tubatic
@therealrider

I usually spell it with an O.

You rule, and beat me to it.
Tahldon's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 12:07
Tahldon
Hm. Nintendo definitely has some of my attention with this console, but there are a number of things lingering in the back of my head that makes me want to hesitate and revert to the old "wait and see" model of thinking. I jumped right on the 3DS, but it's in its early stages so I literally am going to end up waiting to see. I'm impulsive though... If I see something good with this thing out of the gate, I'd end up buying it out of potential alone.

Anyway, my mind's eye makes this controller look like a PSP, only square shaped and cheaper looking being as though it's a controller. I think, over the years, that Nintendo has trained me to stop being scared of the controller and go with the flow of things. I mean... I didn't think the N64 controller would work at all, but it did and it was fun so whatever, I guess.

I'm convinced that the system will be "up to date" graphics-wise, but I'm more interested in the other stuff that comes with a console (or should I say, the stuff that we assume will come with a console these days). Nintendo hasn't been known for keeping a very strong hand in the online portion of gaming. The system that the 3DS has in place seems like a good step and all, but they need more... And since we already know that they're not going to get rid of the friend codes, they need to work the kinks to get a good Online system going with all the fun stuff that goes along with it. That's the stuff I'm tapping my foot on the floor for.
LittleBigD's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 12:07
LittleBigD
Hey....what about thumbsticks? I don't want any stinkin imaginary touch screen thumbsticks. I want real ones damn it.
Outrider42's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 12:10
Outrider42
Nintendo has changed their controller every time they release a new console. So nothing surprising here, they had to think of something to take motion control "to the next level."

The touch pad built into the controller is perfect. It allows the developer to basically create whatever controller they want. Hey, you want 20 buttons, then you can do that. Want an extra analog stick, well, you can replicate that with the touch screen. Want a texting keyboard, well they can do that to. This gives them that flexibility.

And then there are others things. I'm sure they will make it possible to pet your Nintendog by stroking the touch pad. That just made me feel kind of creepy.
And let's not forget all the in-game HUDs and stuff this can be. Imagine your whole backpack being shown on the screen, and you can touch any item to use it without selecting any screens...it would be even easier than using a mouse /keyboard.

Also, I believe the 3ds is the big secret that they are referring to. If you don't have enough controllers, you can use your handy 3ds which contains the same functions. I think the new console will use a number of controller options, just like the current Wii can use gamecube, retro, or wiimote controllers.
Onyx Leo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 12:14
Onyx Leo
From you guys using pictures from the Transformers movie, you just made my hype skyrocket. Darnit Destructoid you just know exactly what buttons to push!
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 12:15
Xzyliac
Damn.
Lukas Over's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 12:18
Lukas Over
Unboxing this thing will be soooo cool !!!
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 12:21
EternalDeathSlayer
The controller sounds fucking strange, but otherwise I'm fucking excited. The prospect of playing Super Mario, Metroid, and especially Zelda in HD with graphics that are at least as good as an Xbox 360 but probably better is too much to resist.
PEICanada7's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 12:25
PEICanada7
"Hey....what about thumbsticks? I don't want any stinkin imaginary touch screen thumbsticks. I want real ones damn it."

- The controller itself is said to include a 6" single-touch screen, d-pad, "L and R," two triggers, and "others."

Where does that say that you won't have any analog sticks? This is all leaked reports here, so the "others" in that statement, could mean anything. It could have 3 analog sticks, for all we know. People are so quick to jump to conclusions. A lot you guys are acting like this is all factual information and its a done deal. These are rumors people. Sure they might be coming from credible sources, but they're still just rumors. So until we actual see the thing at E3 for ourselves, we won't know what's real and what's not.
Scissors's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/15/2011 12:29
Scissors
@SayWord never change

Not sure how I feel just yet, but this is Nintendo and they rarely disappoint me. I'm sure whenever they release their next console that I'll be quick to buy one.

I don't think it's going to have BluRay though. They would have to pay Sony for that, so that makes me question how legitimate the source is.
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