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Moore: Apple rips you off, EA gives you strawberry kisses and gumdrop wishes photo

Peter Moore's week of headline-generating comments has drawn to a close, and it's ended on a bold claim indeed. The EA Sports chief has called out iTunes provider Apple and accused its service of ripping the consumer off.

Comparing EA's digitial distribution plans to Steve Job's fleecing, the former feline Microsoft man had this to say:

We need to look three years into the future and say it's going to be a completely different business, because of broadband connections. I am not going to be at the helm of a company that ends up like the music business that refused to stop trying to sell you CDs for £15 because it was a hugely profitable model. And the music consumer says, 'you know, I don't want to pay £15 for 12 tracks of which I want two, I don't want shiny discs anymore'. And so what did the industry do? It started suing its consumers for illegal downloads and, you know, Steve Jobs comes to the rescue to figure out a way to charge you 99 cents or whatever you're paying in the UK... You're being ripped off. We're not going to do that, we're going to evolve, we're going to go faster for the consumer, whatever the consumer wants.

Whatever the consumer wants, eh? Can we get a pony? I want a pony, Peter!

Personally, I believe any product with a lower case "i" in front of its name is generally an overpriced con, but EA hardly has enough integrity to go scaling its high horse so quickly. We shall see just how much value for money EA's DLC provides in the future, though.








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Phantom Spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:07
Phantom Spaceman
Yeah, because ponying up $60 every year for the same fucking football game is such a great deal.
the GAMEGOBLIN's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:09
the GAMEGOBLIN
"we're going to go faster for the consumer, whatever the consumer wants" doesn't apply to DRM I guess...
Artanas's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:11
Artanas
I really wish he would just shut up for about a week, just a damn week.
Triox's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:11
Triox
iEA, iMadden, iSpore... Humm, iSee a pattern forming here iDo...
gravitys plaything's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:23
gravitys plaything
EA needs to look at this a different way. People get screwed by both EA and Apple, but Apple customers don't care. Steve Jobs had created a cult. If you bad mouth Apple around the wrong people, you are likely to lose a tooth.

EA needs to tighten its DRM...no... they need to make their own console and sell games exclusively for it. At the same time they need commercials with trendy music and trendy people dancing trendy dances to said music. Moore's just jealous that people don't get EA tattoos.
roninnogitsune's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:27
roninnogitsune
well I don't know who to side with here. I hate EA and I hate Apple. They both are annoying.
wonky360's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:31
wonky360
Whats with the music comparison??? Games for the touch/phone are all well priced with no distribution costs etc, the developer actually gets some cash for once. Shame the device has no physical buttons it really limits the type of game.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:41
Holyetheline
I don't care what they do as long as their games don't suck.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:43
John B
Wait ... what? EA accusing Apple of ripping people off? Wow. Total pot-kettle-black from the company that wants to destroy our first sale rights. And hasn't EA also said that they want to start getting heavily into the nickel-and-dime for minor add-ons in their games? Damned hypocrites.

Oh, and Apple might be ripping people off, but at least they allow you to sell your iPod if you don't use it anymore.
Vohaul79's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:45
Vohaul79
Uh....60 bucks a year for the same re hashed garbage? Great deal. Paying 1$ for 1 track instead of 16$ for 1 track...is bad...some how...?

EA are the king asshats. Yes apples ipods / players are a bit overpriced, but I would argue the integration / quality deserves that price. If you dont like it, go buy an RCA lyra and we'll talk in a month when you want to throw it in the toilet next to your other nuggets o' gold.

Seems EA still his some MS going through his veins. Will he shut up for 1 week?
Please?
Vohaul79's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:47
Vohaul79
Edit:
Seems MOORE still has some MS going through his veins...Sorry.
Vohaul79's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:48
Vohaul79
Ballmer must have left it in him for a little longer than I thought.
Artimecion's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:55
Artimecion
=/ They just will treat legit customers like criminals with DRM and charge full whack for each 'licence' a la spore...
TehBoognish's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 10:58
TehBoognish
Anything I want eh?

I WANT MY DIGITAL DOWNLOAD OF BF2 SPECIAL FORCES BACK!

they said that it's in the EULA that the download is only available for x amount of time and I cannot redownload it.

EA SUX AGAIN!
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 11:22
Corak
"There's no such thing as an iPod. The word "iPod" is a marketing tool for a hard drive with software that plays mp3s. Yeah, doesn't sound so sexy now, does it you chimps?"

Quote from maddox. Also getting charged $.99 cents for a song is the same thing as buying a CD. 12 tracks for $12 changed nothing as far as price goes, but don't tell that to any apple lover. Yes its not that bad if you want only a few songs and don't want to buy the whole CD, but I know plenty of people who still donwnload music for free, and EA is not going to be the industry's savior in any way, shape, or form.
Woocifer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 11:47
Woocifer
Very hypocritical and ironic for someone from EA to do this...especially Peter Moore of all people...with his slick hair and beady eyes telling us the 360 is solid and great...and then the first to second year, and even now, they keep blowing up and RROD ensues...yeah from one thief to another. Tell us Peter, why does Microsoft charge for online play when Sony does not? Are you telling me I'm getting my moneys worth from them too?

How about the oil companies, are they big nasties too but EA is a golden sun in the middle of all of this shady thievery? Dink.

Everyones a criminal dude...we all want more and more and more. The music industry is getting rid of reliance on physical possession of music so they can control their users...hmm that sounds awful similar to maybe EA saying they hate second hand sales and want to introduce full digital so they control ALL the money on THEIR products. Sounds EXACTLY THE SAME ya dink...

Smarten up :)
akathatoneguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 11:56
akathatoneguy
Releasing the same game every year DUR HUR HUR!

You morons. You don't even play football games. How the hell do you know if it's the same game every year. And hey, it's still FOOTBALL. What do you want them to do? Introduce new rules?

It never ceases to amaze me how people like to jump in random threads and say the SAME TIRED SHIT that others have already said a thousand times, regardless of merit.
aaronf's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 12:17
aaronf
@Corak:

Songs are 99 cents, but almost every album I've seen on iTunes is only 9.99. So it actually works out to be less than 99 cents per song. But don't tell that to Apple bashers who only spent about 2 minutes in the iTunes store, if that. I think 99 cents for a song is perfectly reasonable. I think 9.99 for a whole album is even better.

I'm a die hard Apple fan, but I criticize Apple all the time for making bone headed moves. The reason Apple fans get so rabid is because 95 percent of the time, the complaints made about Apple products are either flat out lies or distortions. I still hear that people don't like Macs because they "only have a one button mouse". That's been wrong for years. If someone lodges a sound and factually correct criticism of Apple or it's products, you'd be surprised how many Apple users would agree with you. I'll be one of them.
Diomeneus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 12:50
Diomeneus
Moore hasn't exactly been at EA long enough to attribute the usual EA crap to him yet. Those words are coming from Moore, not EA. Apple DEFINITELY rips people off big time... I'm a techie, and as a techie I look at the hardware of the systems they are selling to you people. You know what? You are all paying hundreds of extra dollars for that mac... the EXACT same specs on a non-apple computer or device will cost you a fraction of the cost but the sheep keep lining up for it. They act as if the devices never existed before apple did them, or that the function they love is native to the mac. I don't really have any love for EA but I'm hopeful that Moore can bring a little integrity to them.
elsteveo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:24
elsteveo
Moore doesn't run anything at EA except the sports department so he can only turn a handful of things around
Ocified-Xboxer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:48
Ocified-Xboxer
I didn't read the write up Jim, but I'll talk like I know something...Fuck EA, they are blood sucking, ball draining twats who are out to bend you, the consumer over, fuck you up the ass, and not even think of a reacharound. Fuck them, I will only buy USED EA games...And if it is something I'd play on my PC, I'll steal it instead of pay. FUCK EA...Did I say FUCK EA? FUCK EA. Also cocks.
Ocified-Xboxer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 13:58
Ocified-Xboxer
Now I read it..Don't ever say "I want a pony Peter"...That's just creepy. Peter Moore isn't a dumb guy, but EA hardly constitutes a pro-consumer ideology, or practices anything that could benefit the consumer.

If anything, Moore should be looking at the unscrupulously inept people that work underneath his charge. When a company releases stuff so incomplete (as Madden/Head Coach) and the game testers aren't actually looking for fuck ups, but letting them through I don't see how anyone can argue EAs "pro" consumer position. The only benefit in EAs eyes are that they figure out ways to sucker people into buying their products.

With their moving to take a huge chunk of the game developers, and after take two/Rockstar is scary. I wouldn't kid anyone and say that R* hasn't had huge glitch issues with older GTA games, but ultimately they serve consumers a great deal more in the end. Imagine if R* took EAs 'just patch it later' philosophy with GTA4?

ANY game developer that has anything named "patch 2" a few days after a major titles release isn't doing their fucking jobs. Patch fucking 2, 4 days after Madden came out. It's a fucking joke. I know you English fuckers don't care...But it affects me, and it really fucking irks me.

I'm afraid to see what they do to ruin Bioware.
parrothead's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:21
parrothead
Peter Moore has been drinking, wait doesn't Ron Workman live out on the west coast now? I think I have figured out who is enabling Mr. Moore
neveranything's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:39
neveranything
@akathatoneguy

Each iteration of Madden is basically an update to the last game. Maybe a new feature or two, or some more polished graphics, and an updated roster. Every year I see the same reviews for a football sim, a good football sim for that matter, where they talk about new upgrades, and maybe a new function or mode of play, but it really does amount to almost the same game every year (and yes, I have played a number of iterations of Madden). You pay $60 for what basically amounts to an expansion pack.

The PS3 and XBox 360 have hard disk storage space pretty much nailed down, by the next console generation you're going to see hard disk space on par with an average gaming PC. I'm surprised EA hasn't looked into making the newest Maddens cheaper as an expansion pack than a full game. They could have it both ways. For the uninitiated, they can get a full copy of Madden, for those who've bought last years game, you could get the expansion pack for about $10-20 cheaper on disk, or an even bigger savings if it's downloaded. EA's playing the same kind of game that the music industry has been playing for decades.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 14:42
Gameboi
I see nothing wrong with the i-Tunes model. It's great not having to buy a full album any more. No more "B" sides and filler forced on us in order to get the good stuff.
Ocified-Xboxer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2008 15:16
Ocified-Xboxer
@neveranything - EA would NEVER do an expansion/upgrade like that with Madden. It wouldn't allow them to drain me, and you of 60 bucks. Why charge half price when it costs a few bucks more to produce, and they get double? Ever since we've hit 'next gen' Madden has been anything but. It's sad, because the 2006 Madden on the old Xbox/ps2 was a fantastic game. They have sat on the "getting used to new ways" bullshit now, and are content to ass fuck us.

The mere fact that they created a second game, and want either 30 (with the Madden CE) or 60 bucks for a franchise mode makes me fucking sick. Both Madden and HC 09 offer half of the experience I want, but each one has fatal flaws. No gameplay ing HC 09, and no depth in Madden.

We are dollar signs with feet. FUCK EA! (Do I come off as militant? I don't mean to)

@Gameboi - iTunes is a racket. They have more influence on music than any retail/wholesale company should have. When they start charging for songs based on popularity folks will revolt...I don't think anyone will enjoy paying $2.99 for Hanna Montanas "I swallowed a load (teh suck-it remix)"...
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