Haha, Halo.

Hey Molyneux, Golden Eye 007 did it before Halo.

Regenerating health was a bad idea.

I cannot understand why everyone chuckles when halo is said to be one of the most revolutionary games.

It was, and I will argue it to anyone. It popularized and mainstreamed FPS-centered gaming and it basically made way for the innovation and development of the fantastic shooters we're getting today.

stayambiguous, you forgot, goldeneye 007... does all the thing you describe

@Soviet Mudkip
Too bad TimeSplitters on the PS2 came out almost a full year before Halo and it had dual stick control.

Halo....goldeneye, neither are revolutionary. Online fps gaming had been on pc's for Nearly a decad.

@funran

Halo is revolutionary because it was the first online console fps, unless I'm forgetting something.

DreamingDarklyRobin: Quake III Arena on Dreamcast beat Halo by a year, AND it was much smoother and way more fun.

And riddled with exploding limbs.

explaining why he chose these games might have made it a bit easier to understand. Alot of people would and have cited Metroid (at least on Kotaku) instead of tomb raider for "challenging the notion that a hero had to be a massively-muscled man."

I disagree since the only people who knew that Samus was a female were the ones that beat the game/Justin Bailey'd it. Lara presented femininity to characters from the get go in a very public campaign. Some might argue whether it was too much, but its still the first game I can really remember that did that.

The arguments against halo is just fanboyism. Halo was a decent game. Yes there were and are better FPSs, but the control in Halo was near perfect for a console and really ushered in a million and one copy cats in the same way Mario did with platformers. I didn't pay attention to FPS's before Halo and now I do. Too bad halo 2 killed the franchise for me.

@Alastor
I'm not sure if I would cite that Goldeneye would be the best representation of how a console FPS should be made. It was an excellent game, but it really didn't bring itself up to the level of control that PC gamers had with their games. Halo simplified itself in such a way that it made it accessible to console gamers with good enough control to keep most gamers happy.

I'd disagree with molyneux that WoW is the most revolutionary MMO, but I don't play MMOs so I can't really vouch for it. I still would have thought that Everquest or any other precursor would have gotten a nod especially since he's an old PC guy, but to each their own.

...counter-strike!

Halo practically introduced complex terrain to the FPS genre. What do I mean? Every other FPS had you walking on a plane with no humps or curves or what-say-you in them. Halo added different areas, even if it was as simple as going up hills and stuff.

Wow this guy has like opened himself to be the biggest idiot to ever clame to know things about video games.

he clames halo was great because it " for bringing FPS’ to consoles, introducing regenerative health and solving the tricky issue of multiple weapon swapping by limiting the player to 2 guns at a time."


while some out there call those enhancements they really are cheep mods that could and be put into any FPS ever made, if you want an FPS that pushed the envolope look no farther than QUAKE

1st major online FPS
1st FPS that was compatible online with PC/MAC/sega dreamcast
1st sort of 3d FPS

I mean yeah halo did do somthing great, but it was not the controls it was the LAN ability, Hell halo would suck @$$ without multiplayer by far worse than HL in everyway.

you can also creadit halo with copying Perfect Dark's multiplayer options too...

and WOW lol... shure it is the biggest MMO , but it was not the ground breaking MMO.

I would have to credit PSO or Diablo for being the MMO.

PSO brougt MMOs to the xbox ps2 GC and sega dreamcast

Diablo has set the standard for all MMOs on PC, and no game has really done ANYTHING to change the ORGINAL formula.

yeah know that I remeber that this guy made Fable I can only saw that he is a crap talking dumb ass that realy likes to think he knows aton about video games when he has faild to do what he said he was going to do with the first fable.

um twisted metal came out before mario 64. he does say first game you could freely move around in. you could do that in twisted metal but youre just in a car.

there were plenty of (better)FPS console games LONG before halo.

tomb raider? theres been plenty of femal stars in games beforehand. but she was the most popular because of how she looked ,i guess you could say.

but anyway, still cool to see what influences people to do what they do.
also didnt know he was part of bullfrog(dont follow his career). i still own copies of syndicate and genewars.
syndicate was one of my all time favorite games!

also red faction on ps2 came out before halo and had earth and ground you could walk up and on.

it also had geo-mod. so no halo didnt do hills first.

Dune 2 is an awesome choice... I might have to play that again.

I'm just surprised he didn't pick his own games.

This has turned into a Halo hating/loving thread!
Here's my take: I have hated Halo ever since it showed up on the scene, only FINALLY breaking into the series with ODST. After playing through the first three game just to figure out the plot, I have to say this game had a substantial influence on console FPS.
It certainly wasn't the first, or the best, by it had stuff that is now standard that it invented.
Like, using grenades on their own button instead of switching to the weapon. And the rebounding health bar being so prominent. And the limiting of weapon #s. And enemy/alien weapons vs human weapons.
Overall, it wasn't anything astounding by today's standards, but you can see how its influence has changed FPSs, especially on consoles, significantly.
Still think the plot is dull and Master Chief is a douche, but certainly a significant game.

I'm not disagreeing with Molyneux, I was just proving that guy wrong. Because I'm awesome.

So he really doesn't play games...he just makes mediocre ones and then hypes them to hell and back.

So many people here calling halo a revoulutionary game.
LoL

1.Halo is like FF7 with the main difference is that FPSs where already popural
before Halo.RPGs where not and FF7 did maek RPGs a stable part of our
gaming calture.Halo on the other hand just completly skyrocketed FPSs.
Bad thing that happened at a time where FPSs where already a stable of
the gaming world.

2.Sure Halo had many great fetures like health regenaration and holding 2 weapons (ok not so great) but lets see how many games had Health regenaration after Halo.A lot.How many games did have ''can only hold 2 weapons''
A lot.So its a game that basecly spawned a shit load of gameclones.
ITs the same with FF7.Sure FF7 Made RPGs a part of the gaming world
but it sunk down its own series.Everygame FF game after that was
full of soap opera Dialog and Emo Punktards with huge hair and swords the size
of Semi trucks.Halo basecly jsut made a lot of FPS games that had A huge Bulky
soldier with health regenaration and only 2 cases for weapons fighting aliens
humans or something else.Not to say that every FPS game was like that.
Several awesome FPSs came that were really good (half life 2).

Not to say that Halo is a bad game.It was really good and the fetures it had
were really enjoyable.But there a reason to hate it because the fetures it introduced basecly where overussed.If you compare it to modern games you dont
really see that much of a difference.

Why the hell do people tout Halo as revolutionary? Fun? Yes. Great looking? Indeed. Thight gameplay? Yeah, at times. Revolutionary? Hell no.

Making a transition of something to an environment that just doesn't suit it as well isn't revolutionary. It's working with what you've got. And, for that, too many games deserve more credit.

If the port of a PC-centric gameplay to a console should be indicative of greatness, End War should be considered a masterpiece. Only console RTS that didn't make me crave for a mouse like a mad man. And even on this case, it's still worse than it would've been with a mouse.

You know, just like Halo.

I don't see why Halo gets a bad rep. It definitely revolutionised FPS gaming by making us carry only two weapons, no health-conservation, repetitive level design, and an epic sci-fi story-line to rival Plan 9.

Tomb Raider? REALLY?