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Peter's right...
Shadow of the Collossus, Final Fantasy VII, Journey, Metal Gear Solid 3 and 4, Max Payne... yeah we just aren't ready for emotion. I think he's talking about just the xbox.
Hell even earthbound was pretty emotional. That was like almost 20 years ago.
Shadow of the Collossus, Final Fantasy VII, Journey, Metal Gear Solid 3 and 4, Max Payne... yeah we just aren't ready for emotion. I think he's talking about just the xbox.
Hell even earthbound was pretty emotional. That was like almost 20 years ago.
Jim, Molyneux's marketing speak boils down to:
"it was kind of creepy, we thought people would endlessly snark on it as a pedophile thing, and we decided that probably nobody would ever buy it."
"it was kind of creepy, we thought people would endlessly snark on it as a pedophile thing, and we decided that probably nobody would ever buy it."
Hey Pete, over here!
Make Milo's age and sex adjustable?
And watch me make an 18 year old cheerleader! ...Or a 45 year old husky dude!
Make Milo's age and sex adjustable?
And watch me make an 18 year old cheerleader! ...Or a 45 year old husky dude!
I'm guessing he backed down since it would have probably ended up being the equivalent of Seaman or Hey You, Pikachu!
I've had deep emotion attachment to games since the music in some of the SNES' RPGs... I was like 5 years old then. Was looking forward to Milo, somehow I think Kinect got nerfed a little after the initial E3 demo.
Yeah, a game industry that wasn't at all moved by the Dead Island trailer, enough to make a pretty flawed game like Dead Island become something of a sleeper hit last year.
Yeah, Industry doesn't get that shit at all... Wake up Pete, stop drinking from those 22 cans of yours.
Yeah, Industry doesn't get that shit at all... Wake up Pete, stop drinking from those 22 cans of yours.
"The real problem with Milo, and this is a problem we had lots of meetings over, was where it would be on the shelves next to all the computer games. It was just the wrong thing. It was the wrong concept for what this industry currently is. "
TRANSLATION
It wasn't a videogame.
TRANSLATION
It wasn't a videogame.
Just a reminder guys: He made Theme Park, Dungeon Keeper, Syndicate, and Populous. I can't really hate him that much.
Apparently his next game is a Kinnect horse-stabbing sim disguised as a Fable title.
SCREW YOU AUTO-CORRECT!
SCREW YOU AUTO-CORRECT!
Nobody liked Milo because it was a silly, stupid, demo of a concept that only pedo's would be interested in anyways.
I'm glad he scrapped Milo so he was able to focus on making Fable III the most compelling RPG experience of our time. Oh...wait...
Yeah, I know what you mean Pete. "Seaman" was too ahead of it's time ... no one was ready to converse that way with an onscreen character. "Ico" was ahead of its time, too much involvement with dealing with the relationship between two people onscreen. "Heavy Rain" was too ahead of its time as well, complex situations intended for mature audiences.
You know what? Nevermind, recant those statements ... blow it out your ass, Pete.
You know what? Nevermind, recant those statements ... blow it out your ass, Pete.
"So, Milo didn't fail because it Molyneux fell into his usual trap of over-promising. None of it was his fault. It was our fault for not being emotional enough to withstand its onslaught of majestic provocation. We'll get to work on that right away, Peter. Sorry the industry stopped you from making your game that many people in the industry were excited about."
I didn't get any of that out of what he said.
People will always hear what they want to hear, and see what they want to see, I suppose.
I didn't get any of that out of what he said.
People will always hear what they want to hear, and see what they want to see, I suppose.
I'm with Peter on this one, there are loads of cases of things that are actually really good doing really badly in all manner of media, just because they're ahead of their time and I think he called it.
Welp. I guess i should just go kill myself. I just don't think i'll ever be ready for Peter Molyneux's bullsi- I mean, emotion.
That's the second worst excuse I've seen in the gaming industry in my entire life. How would he know if he hadn't tried? Gosh, the nerve some people have to spill out utter shit and nonsense.
PS: The worst excuse of them all was Quantic Dream's excuse for not realising any of its games in other plataforms mainly the 360 and PCs.
PS: The worst excuse of them all was Quantic Dream's excuse for not realising any of its games in other plataforms mainly the 360 and PCs.
They couldn't perfect it, as they really didn't have good enough tech and this is the PR excuse. Face it that milo video was a staged demo, no real display of tech. It was never coming out as they couldn't actually make something like that. It was just to hype up kinect capabilities, but they don't want to admit they and it can't actually do it (atleast not outside another kinectimals). Kinect and Peter were never that good.
I'm honestly tired of Molyneux. Not a single Fable game came even close to the promises he made before they were released. They were just "OK" games and way too short to be epic. This guy just needs to stop talking.
Too emotional for the game industry? Sorry but that is purr Bull S and excuses. Take PS3 Kara demo from quantic dreams for examble, it blew our minds, it was extremely emotional, powefull and beautiful, so much that people commented on the internet asking quantic dreams to actually make a game from that or even a movie with that theme so, dont give that industry is not prepared for emotional crap. It is their fault, nobody liked Milo, molyneux, learn from quantic dreams.
Although he may sound like a kook at times, i kinda agree with this. When someone mentioned if a pedophile gets a hold of this game, i could imagine how distraught & weird he felt. Don't be a dick Jim.
Duh?
Seeing as most online comments (that didn't simply insult Molyneux) bordered on pedophilia, its not surprising that the project died a quiet death behind closed doors.
Seeing as most online comments (that didn't simply insult Molyneux) bordered on pedophilia, its not surprising that the project died a quiet death behind closed doors.
Jim, you're dodging the real question here: Is Milo pedophilia or not because it's encouraging people to play with children?
I saw the headline and immediately burst out laughing. I remember the good old days when you guys would bitch about Milo on Podcastle.
It never happened because it was too pre-rendered and pre-scripted for this current Industry...
it's our fault as gamers for wanting games to be...
games...
it's our fault as gamers for wanting games to be...
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Young Peter Molyneux: "No one's ever really made a game like this before: BETTER FUCKING MAKE IT!"
Present Peter Molyneux: "No one's ever really made a game like this before: Oh well, no point in trying then."
Present Peter Molyneux: "No one's ever really made a game like this before: Oh well, no point in trying then."
I realized I just pointed out what a douche canoe Molyneux is without actually refuting him. So, I refute him thus:
http://dear-esther.com/?p=657
Dear Esther is a beautiful but confusing, unfocused "art game" about the loss of a loved one and the guilt associated with it. Not only is its merit highly debatable (I personally fucking adored it, Jim Sterling thought it was a steaming load), it's also a remake of a mod of an 8 year old game made by someone no one had ever heard of before. It sold 50,000 copies in the first week.
If some random nobody (no offense to thechineseroom) can sell 50,000 copies of a remake of a 4 year old mod of an 8 year old game, Molyneux ought to be able to sell Milo. The fact that he isn't, isn't the industry's fault. It's not the retailers' fault. It's not our fault. It's his own lazy, short-sighted, has-been washed up hack fault. Fuck off Molyneux. Go make Facebook games.
http://dear-esther.com/?p=657
Dear Esther is a beautiful but confusing, unfocused "art game" about the loss of a loved one and the guilt associated with it. Not only is its merit highly debatable (I personally fucking adored it, Jim Sterling thought it was a steaming load), it's also a remake of a mod of an 8 year old game made by someone no one had ever heard of before. It sold 50,000 copies in the first week.
If some random nobody (no offense to thechineseroom) can sell 50,000 copies of a remake of a 4 year old mod of an 8 year old game, Molyneux ought to be able to sell Milo. The fact that he isn't, isn't the industry's fault. It's not the retailers' fault. It's not our fault. It's his own lazy, short-sighted, has-been washed up hack fault. Fuck off Molyneux. Go make Facebook games.
The amount of voice recordings needed for this to be convincing would likely have been staggering, and even then, I'd be surprised if it still didn't sound canned/repetitive. I also suspect that Kinect's voice recognition limitations would have broken the immersion further. Lastly, if it's just an interactive AI, then count me out. I'll interact with real people instead.
I love games that aim for striking emotional chords more than adding violence, a couple of fucks, and calling it a day.
But Milo... no. If I want to have a game make me cry, I'll just play Dark Souls.
But Milo... no. If I want to have a game make me cry, I'll just play Dark Souls.
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