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Molyneux 'bored' with 'sameness' of modern games photo

Videogame snake oil salesman Peter Molyneux has declared that modern games are becoming boring, due to them all being the same. Fortunately, he's making an on-rails shooter for Kinect, which is pretty radical and differ ... oh. 

"I love new ideas and innovation. I'm trying to think of a more diplomatic way of saying this, but I'm just a little bit bored of doing things the same way in games," he said in Xbox World 360 magazine. "While I love all the drama of modern games there is this sameness about it. 

"They're essentially the same -- one's got a green palette, one's got a grey palette; you're shooting and ducking and diving and it just seems almost on the point of being a little bit like Hollywood where they have got into this rut with their action films."

So, Peter Molyneux is bored with games that are the same. If that's the case, why did he release Fable three times over?

Molyneux bored with modern games' 'sameness' [CVG]








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Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:47
Char Aznable
I'm bored with the sameness of these Peter Molyneux articles in the last week or two.
Wolfy-Boey's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:47
Wolfy-Boey
I love how you keep referring to Peter Molyneux as a snake oil salesman, Jim.
scouserboots's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:47
scouserboots
I do get what Peter is saying, and he is right. But then again it is all a matter of opinion. I kinda don't think Peter is into shooters given the games he makes. I did find the first Fable to be good and a diversion from other games at that time (Halo), but after the first it was like he said, the same thing over and over again.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:47
Chris Carter
"If that's the case, why did he release Fable three times over?"

If that's the case, why did Fable regress as the series went on, until there were practically no RPG elements left in III?

Snake oil salesman is right.

mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:48
mix
Hypocrites make me smile.
vance almighty's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:49
vance almighty
I just wish he'd shut up. The first Fable was a really GOOD, not great, game. Fable II was ludicrously overrated, and Fable III, well... damn. Just, damn. Between this, and him talking about how each Fable previous to the one he's currently working on is completely inferior, even though while making said games he's prone to making them look and sound like feats of technical wizardry, it's enough already.
Mike Moran's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:50
Mike Moran
I suppose it's getting to the point where people ignore Molyneux no matter what he says. He's clearly stating that he's tired of the saturation of shooting games on the market. It's a very common sentiment.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:50
Chris Carter
@Scouser
I don't get how people say that the industry is "all FPS games".

Are you not looking for Demon's Souls, Half Minute Hero, Limbo, Braid, VVVVVV, Trine, or the other hundreds of other unique games I could list here that have come out since Fable 1-3 have been released?
AklashPahk's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:51
AklashPahk
such a dork...
UltorOscariot's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:51
UltorOscariot
"hello, pot? This is kettle. YOU'RE BLACK!"
BoboTheMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:52
BoboTheMonkey
I wish someone would toss Molyneux off a cliff. I really do.
Jamie McGinn's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:54
Jamie McGinn
I know I posted this before, but I feel it's still relevant.
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:54
Epic-Kx
@UltorOscariot
"Hi, Kettle, you're a racist prick."
AJ LaSaracina's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:55
AJ LaSaracina
Know what I never get bored with? The "sameness" of the articles that get released after a Fable game from good ol Petey.
oswyn123's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:58
oswyn123
@ Jim: It wasn't Fable three times over- What about the addition of DOGS? You know, those fuzzy little shovels?

Whenever I read/listen to something Molyneux says, I immediately start trying to convince myself that there is no way this guy is trying to deceive me... Its just too evil for a man involved in making games for a living. I tell myself that he is in his own creative insanity, where he is seeing incredible worlds... Just damn illiterate!

I find I am always disappointed when I defend him in this way. I want to throw ice cold water in his face, and tell him to knock this shit off... Cause I really want to love him and his work.
Janklogs's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 12:59
Janklogs
inb4thisisntnews
Soulcage's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:01
Soulcage
The game industry has always had the front man, the rock star, the big talker out in front. They throw out a lot of hype, or "laws of.." this/that, or put on a good show for the reporters. Theorycrafting is fun, but I prefer seeing results. Walk the walk. Then again the movie industry has similarities, as does the music industry.
BoomingEchoes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:01
BoomingEchoes
Yeah, good, he's bored with games then he should make a plethora of different, inventive, instead of Fable every few years.. Or even 2 Black/White games..

Dude makes money off of sequels and sameness, but then again why am I even bothering to be surprised that he's biting the hand that feeds him? Not even a year after Fable: The Journey is released he'll be telling us how bad that was too.

I'm seriously getting bored with this guy.
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:03
Bakewell
Poor Molly must really love the taste of his footwear, he seems to forever have his boot in his gob.
TripleShot's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:03
TripleShot
He released it three times because it costs so damn much to make something new.

I agree with him. He's a salesman for sure, but that statement makes sense. I'm sure it's less about whether he wants to or not and more like he's stuck making rehashes of the same game.
Handy's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:04
Handy
I’m not saying Molyneux is a liar but every word that passes through his scaly lips is nothing but vile rotten insect filth rolling off his forked tongue and corrupting the ears of innocent children.

Well, I guess I am calling him a liar, but in a very flamboyant way.
Camiwaits's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:04
Camiwaits
In the future, everything is On Rails
O.M.'s Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:05
O.M.
shutupshutupshutupshutupshutupshutupshutupshutupshutup...

Dtoiders, please feel free to continue until you are at peace with Peter Molyneux.
SixthHero's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:06
SixthHero
Peter, please stop saying things. Also, stop making bad video games.

in before jimmyx shows up to be a huge Fable/360 apologist.
StarPlatinum's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:10
StarPlatinum
Peter's correct, but he's not had the pedigree in the last few years to back himself up. I liked Fable, I liked Fable II (but I totally get why some people didn't), but damn, Fable III was was obnoxious.
ThrashingLimbsEd's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:10
ThrashingLimbsEd
:D

keep it coming jim
stevesan's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:13
stevesan
How about stop giving Molyneux attention..
Tezwins's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:13
Tezwins
@sixthhero
I've been waiting for a jimmyx truthpost for a while. That guy is a one man army.
Pyrofrost's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:15
Pyrofrost
@Epic-KxDtoid:
I fail to see how UltorOscariot's statement was racist. Seems to me you are digging for something to be offended by.
Rammstein's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:19
Rammstein
This website is just becoming the shittiest shade of N4G where the talking head(troll) article says something and the parrots and fangirls gobble the fuck outta his dick and repeat what he said, ad nauseum.

This is the guy who gave us Fable and Black & White. You'll forgive me if I believe him over random wannabe troll kids in the comments section on a site that is losing it's quality in terms of community every day.

He might be a snake-oil salesman but every now and then his 'snake-oil' does cure a headache or two.

Uncharted is the same garbage as Gears of War. One is shaded green while the other, brown. He's not that far from the truth.

Problem?
Faux Furry's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:20
Faux Furry
If only good ol' Pete was in any position to do anything about that spreading uniformity.

If only he knew something about making games in which the player character didn't need to move but instead, made the world move around them by taking a hold of the world itself and spinning the thing slightly towards or away from it. That kind of game would work perfectly well with Kinect, almost as if Kinect were conceived specifically to run a game just like that.

I suppose one could say that creativity isn't all a Black & White, completely new or totally derivative proposition.

Alas, poor Pete is just a humble PR man,not in anyway responsible for what a games development studio produces.
Isay Isay's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:20
Isay Isay
#battlefield #call of duty

Oh Jim, I see what you did there
Panzadolphin56's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:21
Panzadolphin56
Ahhhh.... I now see the genius of Molyneux! This is why all his games are full of crippling bugs - so that we can all get an 'original gameplay experience'! Good god man you are a genius!
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:23
RenegadePanda
I'd rather a game stay the same than start to remove everything that made it great in the first place.

If Moly got ahold of Call of Duty, he'd no doubt remove perks and replace the leveling system with some kind of universal currency that handles everything. Probably change all the guns to magical weaponry, and set it in some crazy fictional ye-olde setting. And the AC-130's would be giant Hobbes that fly and shit on everything.

And there would be one sole achievement called 'It's not on rails!' that you get for beating the first level.
vpxtreme's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:25
vpxtreme
Peter Molyneux can eat a dick. You gotta make good games be able to talk smack about others.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:25
KingSigy
Black and White was pretty good, but even that failed to live up to the pre-hype. Molyneux just needs to stop making games, is all. Nothing he ever does is very original or fully realized.
GoodGuyA's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:26
GoodGuyA
@ Camiwaits- Wow, the future came FAST.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:29
Chris Carter
@Ramm
I'm convinced more and more each day that when Molyneux spent his time at Bullfrog, he didn't have as much of a say as he does at Lionhead, where his work is repeatedly poor.

I loved his stuff at Bullfrog, and forgave him for all the lies he gave on Project Ego (Fable), which, at the time, was one of my most anticipated games ever, but he started going really downhill the more he opened his mouth.

I remember being in High School, having magazine interviews of Molyneux spouting outright lies of elements that would never even come close to making it in the game. He made it seem like Fable would be the the first true third person Daggerfall, with a vast open world that you could affect over the span of years (one huge lie was "you could kill a kid's father, and scar the kid, and in 10 years, that kid would grow up to hunt you - this could all happen real time" - none of that made it in the game in any fashion. Fable I ended up being more like your typical action game, which no real open world to speak of.
dr spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:31
dr spaceman
@Rammstein

"Uncharted is the same garbage as Gears of War."

lol
Stigmeyer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:32
Stigmeyer
Does he only look at the mainstream then? He must be because there are some amazing games just t the right and/or left of the mainstream garbage flow. And his games have been so crap lately anyway who really cares what this guy thinks? He's becoming like Pachter with all of his loose talk.
qlum's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:32
qlum
why cant he just stop with all this bs and start making great (pc) games again
Uber Epic Elite's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:37
Uber Epic Elite
Molyneux is so full of shit. He's a fake and a bullshitter.
OmnipotentBagel's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 13:57
OmnipotentBagel
This Fable article failed to live up to the hype surrounding it after "Molyneux: Fable: The Journey demo was only 4 months old". Sterling promised a revolutionary new Journalism (TM) experience that his team simply couldn't deliver. However, technology has improved and the next Fable article should be able to achieve the ambitious vision Jim has and make all his previous articles look like shit.
Bammy J's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 14:00
Bammy J
Too much shooting and ducking and diving? So he adds guns to Fable. I wanna pew pew with a bow not a gun!
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 14:00
Mr Andy Dixon
@Rammstein

I love his games, too -- especially the Bullfrog stuff. But that doesn't exempt him from the backlash he's received regarding the lies he's been spouting about his games for nearly a decade now...
asojax's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 14:00
asojax
@dr_spaceman_

He's right, I mean look uncharted has big beefy guys taking on aliens and gears of war has a treasure hunter looking for treasure, it's the same game damn it why couldn't i have seen this before.

On a side note what is the snake oil of the week that peter "snake salesman" Molyneux is selling and will it make my pen..confidence grow while i play games?
Thaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 14:04
Thaster
Man. This guy is such a hypocrite. Always talking trash about the games that he has released... That's all he do!
flynn110's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 14:12
flynn110
breaking news: molyneaux's shit don't stink.
dr spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/29/2011 14:13
dr spaceman
@asojax

that's true, but i felt the platforming in gears is really what separated the two.
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