PC gamers, prepare to shake your fists in anger once more! Infinity Ward won no fans yesterday for announcing a 9v9 player cap on all servers, while also sticking by its decision to scrap dedicated servers in Modern Warfare 2. In order to drive home just what a raw deal PC gamers will be getting, a NeoGAF poster created a comparison chart between Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare and the new sequel. Things don't look good.
Console commands, custom maps, recorded gameplay, mod tools and filters were all available in Call of Duty 4, and aren't to be found in Modern Warfare 2. Networking architecture and the average ping are also listed as inferior to that of 2007's shooter. The only category in which Modern Warfare 2 wins out is in the online profile section, which is by no means a dealbreaker.
Seems strange to say, but it would appear that, for once, the best bet is to buy it on consoles. Most of the touted benefits of PC gaming aren't in Modern Warfare 2 at all. Still, there's always that super accurate mouse/keyboard thing that people love so much.
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Well at least that's what they say in Halo. Srsly this game just BEGS to be pirated/boycotted/pirated and burned in protest. And I don't even play PC games or online multiplayer.
http://video.foxbusiness.com/11298736/ea-ceo-gearing-up-for-holiday-sales/?category_id=1292d14d0e3afdcf0b31500afefb92724c08f046
infinty wards is done as a company
My brother's laptop can't even play Call of Duty 2 because the graphics card is integrated. The laptop is only two years old.
PC gaming outside of the Sims and Wow is dead since the average person can't play or afford the PCs required for most new games.
And don't give me that "Build it yourself" bunk. It's never easy if you've never done it before.
Some people on this forum know how to build a PC from parts bought on NewEgg, I don't.
So, no patronizing people here.
Not going to make you money Infinity Ward. Hah, who am I kidding, they could spit in the face of every customer and still make money.
And don't give me that crap about not being able to afford a gaming PC. The upgrades that allow you to play almost all games on high settings run about 200-300 dollars.
this chart seems kinda extremist and unnecessarily aggressive. Also, people could remember that if you don't want to buy it you don't need to, this is starting to look like a product that isn't worth it's price anymore
I mean, did the creator of this chart just pull stuff from quotes? How does he know there is no "BAD LANGUAGE FILTER" for example? How could he measure an average ping when IWNet is not even up and running?
I take this "comparison" with a grain of salt. But like most of you guys, I will be playing this for the most part on the 360 anyway. I played the first one on the 360 and it was fine for me, so no need to change.
I'd like to say this is karma due to their asinine elitism. But I won't. :P
Seriously, what the fuck?
If it wasn't for the fact that my store pretty much NEEDS to carry Modern Warfare 2 (our friends/patrons will DISOWN us if we don't), I am now very close to the point where I would opt to not spend money on this thing. Not as some financial tactic, or emotional boycott, but simply because this no longer seems like a valuable product to own, and I've already got the first Modern Warfare.
Modern Warfare's lanplay according to the IW discussion requires you to use the internet to play on LAN which defeats the purpose of using LAN. In fact the way they phrased it was "You can play with friends *online* with our service, IW.net" which was a rather clumsy dodge.
Much of the anger by PC users to Modern Warfare 2 was that this was their *must buy* game until things fell apart. Many of whom had already made investments into servers but were up until a month before release were decieved on their investments (IW was quoted that the "PC multiplayer would remain unchanged from Modern Warfare 1"). Even though many PC gamers will no longer be purchasing Modern Warfare 2 there is a great feeling of being burned as a consumer, you can't say you're surprised at the outrage. If anything I would be shocked if people were apathetic about such changes and I'm not defining that to MW2 but to any shift.
Additionally part of the matter as well is this change was for all intents and purposes done fairly under the radar. In fact unless you were intently following 402's blog/twitter the matter would have NEVER entered into your mind. So it comes off as rather underhanded move by IW as well.
In fact were it not for the outrage this new "feature" would have arguably never have cropped up in mainstream news.
@ TheWeaponeer: They're not talking about gameplay features. Sure, gameplay features actually have to be played with to understand them, MOST of these are pretty hard facts. Yeah, I say "most" 'cause some of these are a little bit BS. "Manually select server to join" wouldn't always be a bonus, and "average ping" isn't really something you can know before hand.
Those games were ports, unlike MW2.
UT3 suports mouse and keyboard on the PS3.
Sadly not MW2.
Its ironic because i have a friend who has been playing cod4 on his 360 since launch i let him play it on my bc about a month ago and now after seeing the game on the pc he can no longer stand to play the gimped 360 version
all we can do is hope the next call of duty game from infinity ward reverts back to the old way otherwise i will never buy another call of duty pc game
Do you have a source on that? Because if that is true then MW2's online is totally done for. Completely. Dead. Gone.
http://www.tek-9.org/news/mw2_developer_chat_reveals_more_bad_news_regarding_multiplayer-2115.html
The problem I see is all the people bitchin about the game BUT will still buy it because they feel they GOT TO HAVE IT.
0 dollars from me, but still plan on playing the singleplayer ;)
More people buy the games than pirate it I'm sure. Why? Because a lot of PC gamers will go out of their way to support developers that support us. And, as a franchise, CoD wouldn't have gotten ANYWHERE without the support of legit PC gamers. Oh, and there's a difference between 'hacking' a game and modding a game when they give you mod tools.
"My brother's laptop can't even play Call of Duty 2 because the graphics card is integrated. The laptop is only two years old. "
Huh? Why would you expect to run Crysis on an integrated graphics card? Do you expect PC games to be comparable to Wii games? You also do realize that there is no overarching company like Sony or Microsoft dictating what games get made for the Pc, right?
This is another case of somebody feeling the world should revolve around them ... in this this case just because you don't happen to know how to go to Newegg.com, I guess.
At this point, I'd rather you just stop making PC games. Will World at War 2 be this bad, or will they learn from their ways? Only time will tell.
"It's pretty much been said, why bother giving PC players anything when it will just be pirated? "
Yeah.. every single person that plays PC games pirate them. You're a moron.
"I don't give two about any of the features that were 'cut' since I've played on 360 "
Good for you. Why did you even bother posting anything?
Funny thing is, a good chunk of PC gamers DO pirate games (I know of several in this city alone). Not the majority, but enough to do damage to the companies involved. I never said every PC gamer does. People really like to assume shit on here, don't they?
And console players don't pirate? Can I get a "Puh-leez" in the house?
EVERY platform is affected by piracy. Hell, am I the only one who remembers that there were people pirating SNES games back in the day? Oh, and for this game in particular, the .iso of the *Xbox 360* version hit the Internet about a week ago. Now, that seems to tell me that there's a pretty good demand for pirated content for console.
"Will Treyarch learn from IW's ways?*"
It's funny you should mention that because World at War on the PC at first did not have dedicated servers. But something strange... almost alien happened... they listened to their PC customers and provided dedicated servers and now World at War is enjoying a great bit of success on the PC.
http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?game=codwaw
It would seem Treyarch learned what Infinity Ward just forgot. It's also a sad day when Treyarch *gets* PC gamers more than Infinity Ward, I'm guessing this is the mirror universe Treyarch?
All Activision/Blizzard cares about these days is money, and they'll go to any length to get it, even if it mean mutilating great games. Yep, it sucks to be a PC user.