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PC gamers, prepare to shake your fists in anger once more! Infinity Ward won no fans yesterday for announcing a 9v9 player cap on all servers, while also sticking by its decision to scrap dedicated servers in Modern Warfare 2. In order to drive home just what a raw deal PC gamers will be getting, a NeoGAF poster created a comparison chart between Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare and the new sequel. Things don't look good.

Console commands, custom maps, recorded gameplay, mod tools and filters were all available in Call of Duty 4, and aren't to be found in Modern Warfare 2. Networking architecture and the average ping are also listed as inferior to that of 2007's shooter. The only category in which Modern Warfare 2 wins out is in the online profile section, which is by no means a dealbreaker.

Seems strange to say, but it would appear that, for once, the best bet is to buy it on consoles. Most of the touted benefits of PC gaming aren't in Modern Warfare 2 at all. Still, there's always that super accurate mouse/keyboard thing that people love so much.


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Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:04
Xzyliac
Suicide!

Well at least that's what they say in Halo. Srsly this game just BEGS to be pirated/boycotted/pirated and burned in protest. And I don't even play PC games or online multiplayer.
AlphaJC's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:11
AlphaJC
Yeah i just built a new rig like 3 months ago waiting for dragon age and modern warfare 2, diablo 3 and what not but my shooter for the year is scrapped and 10 bucks more expensive, but man am i disappointed. Ill just have to get it for the 360 then.
dreamhunk's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:13
dreamhunk
hard facts about pc gaming

http://video.foxbusiness.com/11298736/ea-ceo-gearing-up-for-holiday-sales/?category_id=1292d14d0e3afdcf0b31500afefb92724c08f046

infinty wards is done as a company
Static Jak's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:15
Static Jak
1 step closer to PC gaming becoming console gaming in a different skin. Thing is, even with the angry PC gamers vowing piracy, this game will be the biggest seller this year at the very least.
Eddftw's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:17
Eddftw
Fuck...
lubczyk's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:26
lubczyk
The PC gaming industry killed itself when it alienated off the shelf PCs not being able to play games.

My brother's laptop can't even play Call of Duty 2 because the graphics card is integrated. The laptop is only two years old.

PC gaming outside of the Sims and Wow is dead since the average person can't play or afford the PCs required for most new games.

And don't give me that "Build it yourself" bunk. It's never easy if you've never done it before.

Some people on this forum know how to build a PC from parts bought on NewEgg, I don't.

So, no patronizing people here.
Nicojay2's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:27
Nicojay2
So stick with the better game hmm.
Not going to make you money Infinity Ward. Hah, who am I kidding, they could spit in the face of every customer and still make money.
Palidi's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:29
Palidi
Well, sounds like I won't be buying this game. Period.
Tha Meat's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:29
Tha Meat
Get L4D2 instead.
shadydentist's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:33
shadydentist
Off the shelf PCs were *never* able to play most new games. Discrete video cards have practically been a requirement since Quake.

And don't give me that crap about not being able to afford a gaming PC. The upgrades that allow you to play almost all games on high settings run about 200-300 dollars.
gabapenteado's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:35
gabapenteado
Why is Lan support on MW2 WORST than LAN support on MW1? As far as i know they're going to be just the same, also zero ping for the host doesn't sound sa that much of a disavantage

this chart seems kinda extremist and unnecessarily aggressive. Also, people could remember that if you don't want to buy it you don't need to, this is starting to look like a product that isn't worth it's price anymore
TheWeaponeer's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:36
TheWeaponeer
While a in-depth chart, how can you state for fact what IWNet is capable of when the PC version is not even out yet?

I mean, did the creator of this chart just pull stuff from quotes? How does he know there is no "BAD LANGUAGE FILTER" for example? How could he measure an average ping when IWNet is not even up and running?

I take this "comparison" with a grain of salt. But like most of you guys, I will be playing this for the most part on the 360 anyway. I played the first one on the 360 and it was fine for me, so no need to change.
klops's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:37
klops
I believe you cant join game in progress either
eduh's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:45
eduh
no console commands and no recording either? omfg... seriously...
zdoggy00's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:49
zdoggy00
I now know why console gamers are so impressed by mediocre features. They are essentially 10 years behind the PC multiplayer gaming curve.
TheDreadHawk's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:49
TheDreadHawk
PC gamers got shafted.

I'd like to say this is karma due to their asinine elitism. But I won't. :P
Dannysaysnoo's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:50
Dannysaysnoo
Taken with a grain of salt the size of Godzilla, as the game isn't even out yet. -.-
Kaspar's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:52
Kaspar
K, for all the defending I've done, no filters makes this a no buy.

Seriously, what the fuck?
Sentry's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:53
Sentry
Oy.

If it wasn't for the fact that my store pretty much NEEDS to carry Modern Warfare 2 (our friends/patrons will DISOWN us if we don't), I am now very close to the point where I would opt to not spend money on this thing. Not as some financial tactic, or emotional boycott, but simply because this no longer seems like a valuable product to own, and I've already got the first Modern Warfare.
Yehat's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:57
Yehat
@gabapenteado

Modern Warfare's lanplay according to the IW discussion requires you to use the internet to play on LAN which defeats the purpose of using LAN. In fact the way they phrased it was "You can play with friends *online* with our service, IW.net" which was a rather clumsy dodge.

Much of the anger by PC users to Modern Warfare 2 was that this was their *must buy* game until things fell apart. Many of whom had already made investments into servers but were up until a month before release were decieved on their investments (IW was quoted that the "PC multiplayer would remain unchanged from Modern Warfare 1"). Even though many PC gamers will no longer be purchasing Modern Warfare 2 there is a great feeling of being burned as a consumer, you can't say you're surprised at the outrage. If anything I would be shocked if people were apathetic about such changes and I'm not defining that to MW2 but to any shift.

Additionally part of the matter as well is this change was for all intents and purposes done fairly under the radar. In fact unless you were intently following 402's blog/twitter the matter would have NEVER entered into your mind. So it comes off as rather underhanded move by IW as well.

In fact were it not for the outrage this new "feature" would have arguably never have cropped up in mainstream news.
Insanity-Oo's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 08:58
Insanity-Oo
@ lubczyk: you don't need to build your own, but you do need to know what your buying. A PC is not a console, you can't just pick up the first box you see and expect it to run any piece of software (esp. games).

@ TheWeaponeer: They're not talking about gameplay features. Sure, gameplay features actually have to be played with to understand them, MOST of these are pretty hard facts. Yeah, I say "most" 'cause some of these are a little bit BS. "Manually select server to join" wouldn't always be a bonus, and "average ping" isn't really something you can know before hand.
Miguelcar808's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 09:00
Miguelcar808
FF7 and 8 on the PC has a save system based on PS1's memory card,and you stuck with two cards (30 slots) unlike the console where we can have more than two cards. RE4 has no exit and no mouse look.
Those games were ports, unlike MW2.

UT3 suports mouse and keyboard on the PS3.
Sadly not MW2.
Foamysking's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 09:03
Foamysking
Well vote with your wallet i was going to buy MW2 on pc but now i will not buy it due to completely gimping multiplayer

Its ironic because i have a friend who has been playing cod4 on his 360 since launch i let him play it on my bc about a month ago and now after seeing the game on the pc he can no longer stand to play the gimped 360 version

all we can do is hope the next call of duty game from infinity ward reverts back to the old way otherwise i will never buy another call of duty pc game
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 09:09
Jon B
@klops
Do you have a source on that? Because if that is true then MW2's online is totally done for. Completely. Dead. Gone.
Rankcanine's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 09:18
Rankcanine
infinity ward is infected with the scum that is Activision. we used to love infinity Ward they put out quality COD games but now that activision is so evil they have corrupted IW. i will not buy modern warfare 2 on PC nor a consoles I'm boycotting all activision games here on out
AxelFury's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 09:19
AxelFury
Don't worry guys, the PC version "has custom stuff like mouse control, text chat in game, and graphics settings".

http://www.tek-9.org/news/mw2_developer_chat_reveals_more_bad_news_regarding_multiplayer-2115.html
Brannigans Law's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 09:22
Brannigans Law
As for the bad language filter thing, I think that's a reference to the fact that you can't kick people from a game. Someone in a dev chat specifically asked if players could kick someone if they're being rude or using bad language. Bashandslash.com has a transcript of a dev chat thing best buy did. It's pretty hilarious. My favorite bit was that anyone asking about dedicated servers was pretty much booted from it.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 09:23
Jon B
Oh and apparently Host Migration is crap because half the time you get booted back to the lobby too. On the CONSOLE version. I really aren't hopeful as to the PC version being better.
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 10:19
Dexter345
I don't really see how it's a better bet to buy it on consoles. It's not like the console versions have any more features than the PC version. It's just that the PC version was expected to have more than it does, but it turns out it *only* has just as much as the console versions.
Carl Sagan's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 10:27
Carl Sagan
Plus, it will look phenomenally better.
N0R3M0RS3's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 10:34
N0R3M0RS3
The best bet is to buy it for consoles? Ummm, no? It's still just as limited, and has lesser graphics. So I'll just not buy it. If they want to make money of the PC version, they'd better make a real PC game next time. And, Dexter345 hit the nail on the head, the PC version *only* has as much as the console version, not as much as it *should* have had.
OR4NGE's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 10:40
OR4NGE
I will not be getting MW2 for PC or 360. I was waiting for it on PC for my next FPS. Now I will wait till BF:BC2 on pc to get a new fps.

The problem I see is all the people bitchin about the game BUT will still buy it because they feel they GOT TO HAVE IT.

0 dollars from me, but still plan on playing the singleplayer ;)
andycadaver's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 10:44
andycadaver
Of course you want to buy it for the consoles. The shitcanning of dedicated servers should have been your first hint. The game clearly wasn't planned and created for the PC, it was designed for the consoles. Activision didn't want IW to put too much work into the PC version if people were just going to pirate it and hack and do whatever else you crazy PC people do. From a business standpoint, they probably saved a lot of money. From a consumer standpoint, they're big fat meany-head jerks. And they smell like poop. And probably eat poop too, which is why they smell like it so much.
Klarden's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 10:45
Klarden
haha. thank god i'm not buying this for multiplayer. funny guys, IW are. reeeal funny
N0R3M0RS3's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 10:47
N0R3M0RS3
@andycadaver

More people buy the games than pirate it I'm sure. Why? Because a lot of PC gamers will go out of their way to support developers that support us. And, as a franchise, CoD wouldn't have gotten ANYWHERE without the support of legit PC gamers. Oh, and there's a difference between 'hacking' a game and modding a game when they give you mod tools.
RenagadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 10:52
RenagadePanda
It's pretty much been said, why bother giving PC players anything when it will just be pirated? The price hike was most likely done to cover their losses from dipshits pirating the game. I don't give two about any of the features that were 'cut' since I've played on 360 exclusively since the days of FEAR on PC. So, for me, there is no problem here.
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 10:56
runtheplacered
@ lubcyzk

"My brother's laptop can't even play Call of Duty 2 because the graphics card is integrated. The laptop is only two years old. "

Huh? Why would you expect to run Crysis on an integrated graphics card? Do you expect PC games to be comparable to Wii games? You also do realize that there is no overarching company like Sony or Microsoft dictating what games get made for the Pc, right?

This is another case of somebody feeling the world should revolve around them ... in this this case just because you don't happen to know how to go to Newegg.com, I guess.
funran's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 10:57
funran
I honestly was going to pick this up for PC, but with the higher price, and the lack of feature, I might just go pick up the first one.....assholes.
Magnalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 11:02
Magnalon
Thanks IW! You lost another PC customer.

At this point, I'd rather you just stop making PC games. Will World at War 2 be this bad, or will they learn from their ways? Only time will tell.
Magnalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 11:02
Magnalon
Will Treyarch learn from IW's ways?*
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 11:03
runtheplacered
@RenagadePanda

"It's pretty much been said, why bother giving PC players anything when it will just be pirated? "

Yeah.. every single person that plays PC games pirate them. You're a moron.

"I don't give two about any of the features that were 'cut' since I've played on 360 "

Good for you. Why did you even bother posting anything?
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 11:09
Holyetheline
I'm getting it for 360... definitely.
NostalGeek's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 11:17
NostalGeek
I'm only playing it for the solo campaign anyway so PC it is.
RenagadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 11:21
RenagadePanda
@ runtheplacered

Funny thing is, a good chunk of PC gamers DO pirate games (I know of several in this city alone). Not the majority, but enough to do damage to the companies involved. I never said every PC gamer does. People really like to assume shit on here, don't they?
mrandydixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 11:22
mrandydixon
Yeah, but you can shoot civilians!
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 11:25
ScottyG
Eh, tbh MW1 was a more preferred buy on the consoles. I don't remember the PC version getting even much of a mention, let alone a push.
N0R3M0RS3's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 11:26
N0R3M0RS3
@RenegadePanda

And console players don't pirate? Can I get a "Puh-leez" in the house?

EVERY platform is affected by piracy. Hell, am I the only one who remembers that there were people pirating SNES games back in the day? Oh, and for this game in particular, the .iso of the *Xbox 360* version hit the Internet about a week ago. Now, that seems to tell me that there's a pretty good demand for pirated content for console.
Yehat's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 11:40
Yehat
@Magnalon

"Will Treyarch learn from IW's ways?*"

It's funny you should mention that because World at War on the PC at first did not have dedicated servers. But something strange... almost alien happened... they listened to their PC customers and provided dedicated servers and now World at War is enjoying a great bit of success on the PC.

http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?game=codwaw

It would seem Treyarch learned what Infinity Ward just forgot. It's also a sad day when Treyarch *gets* PC gamers more than Infinity Ward, I'm guessing this is the mirror universe Treyarch?
mrberns's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 12:03
mrberns
Thank you for this. I've been trying to explain to a friend how much shit they've been taking out of the PC version, and he just keeps defending it.
Faust's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/05/2009 12:03
Faust
Just one more fuck-up, and I'm taking MW2 off my Christmas List. It's that simple.

All Activision/Blizzard cares about these days is money, and they'll go to any length to get it, even if it mean mutilating great games. Yep, it sucks to be a PC user.
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