Good. World at War wanted to be CoD4 so bad, and was worse for it. 65 levels was bullshit. It was awful how they stretched shit out. There was nothing quite like leveling up and seeing that I unlocked a grand total of 3 challenges, instead of a perk or a new weapon.

Modern Warfare 2 cannot get here fast enough.

I only hope they copy one part that Treyarch put in, the local-play search option for multiplayer. Laggy games are just not fun.

Im still going to hang on to WaW just for zombies. I challenge anyone to not enjoy themselves with a group of friends in either of the 4 maps.

I like COD4's single player more, but in my opinion, WAW had better maps, more realistic gunplay (ie skill, that FPS goons didn't want to adhere to), and I had more fun with it: it also had more extended replay value with Nazi Zombies.

In fact, I just played it on PC last night, and just got done doing some TD on 360 at the moment.

Great, even after playing the demo of WaW, I did not like the game at all, even in basic storytelling terms, COD4 beats WaW by a mile. However, I do hope they emulate a type of mode similar to Zombie mode, maybe endless terrorist mode?

Either way, good to know that MW2 will not be a big copy of MW, Infinity Ward makes great games anyway.

We also take no pages out of Activision's whore treyarch.

Very good news. My fear for this game was that they would just skin it over again like what treyarch did with W@W. IW is better than that, it seems.

"I find it kinda funny how any given Infinity Ward member will take a cheap shot at Treyarch when possible." I find it unprofessional and disrespectful. All it does is breed a secret desire within me that MW2 fails. I can't help it, but IW are really acting with hubris, and I wouldn't mind seeing them fall on their faces a little bit.

Huh, I guess they shouldn't have sold out to Activision then.

I liked W@W. The maps were awesome, sound design was immersive, and in my opinion, had less a-holes than cod4.

Well, they're owned by Activision now, and I'm guessing that that means the Call of Duty brand belongs to the parent company. IW have just been rubbing me up the wrong way recently, and I happen think that World at War is a good game. It's not like Treyarch got given much of a choice around the matter, since they are also an Activision studio. If you want to blame anyone for milking the franchise, blame them.

@Sunking

I agree. The game wasn't that bad at all. It was a less nub-friendly version of COD4, and since that's what attracted most people to Modern Warfare in the first place, it was doomed to fail.

"OMG I CANT RUN AND GUN, WHATS THIS STOOOPID OLD GUN THOMPSON? LOL MORE LIKE JACK THOMPSON FUCK THIS GAME."

I preferred WaW over CoD4. That's mostly because I will never, ever get tired of killing Nazis.

@SunKing
Meh, I don't blame IW for "selling out" to Activision. The point of the business is to make money, and I doubt IW lost any money in the deal. But I understand why they would take the cheap shots at Treyarch, a company that shamelessly uses the Call of Duty series that IW built to rake in their money. It would be a different thing if they were making original games, but they are basically copying everything IW does. Seeing someone use my work to make huge amounts of money would piss me off too.

Good, I hated WaW's multiplayer and single player. The multiplayer was ridiculously biased against newbies and the single player was melodramatic, straining to evoke the same sort of tension that Modern Warfare did.

Infinity Ward doesn't need to borrow anything from Treyarch. I have faith in these guys, and can't wait to get MW2.

Jeez, who fucking cares which company is better?
I played CoD4 and WaW about the same amount, which is to say I finished the single player on Vet and then played the multiplayer til I prestiged once and that was that.
CoD4 was the originator of perks and leveling (in the CoD series) and then WaW offered great map design, great weapon balance and no fucking helicopters for a better MP experience.

All power to IW for trying to make MW2 different, but I'll believe it when I see it.

One of the best thing about any of Jim's posts is how there are always 3-5 people who just attack him for having an opinion...

IW: We aren't just copying WAW.
Jim: Good I didn't like WAW.
Flamers: Fuck you Jim! WaW wasn't for noobs, you can go eat a dick and die!!!

I can imagine this tearing into his daily life....

Jim: I like bananas, but there is something about eating things that are colored yellow I just can't get into.
Flamers: Fuck you Jim! Yellow is awesome, Bananas are for fags, go stick that banana up your ass!

Even in his Batman review when he said he loved the game but didn't like collect-a-thons, there just had to be at least one person who responded with, "Jim, you don't need to collect the stuff, it's optional"... so, what you are saying is that it should be ommited from the review cause you don't need to do it? No! It should stay, because it is still in the game, and it is still a stupid throwback idea to the n64.

Where was I? Oh yeah, WaW wasn't THAT bad, even if it was a shameful cash in. It was a feat for Treyarch, because every other CoD cash in they did sucked ass. They DID just copy CoD4, but at least they copied a good game, since their previous, more original entries, were jokes.

Ranting so long I'm late for work.

WaW pissed me off but I have since been finished with the shit game.

"and no fucking helicopters for a better MP experience."

Nope they had tanks for that also helis can be taken down in seconds.

You guys have to remember that both IW and Treyarch work for Activision. That being said, Treyarch did exactly what Activision wanted, "clone CoD4". They put there own twist on things, like by adding the Zombie mode, and improved upon several things like grenade spamming in MP, improved maps, excellent DLC, spawn toobing in S&D, and addressed modded controles and fixed known glitches in a timely manner. At the same time, they failed on a few things, like connecting parties to the game lobby, hit detection problems, re-spawning points, over use of grenades in SP, checkpoints in SP, Tanks (at least they removed them from HC), etc.

In all fairness, I thought Treyarch did a great job with the game and I hope that this will be a sign of things to come from them in the future.

BTW....Does anyone else hate those damn target/bomb icons that always seem to be in the way.