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Please, please, can I please have a Super Metroid style Metroid with the map on the controller screen? You don't want to know what I'd do for this, Mr. Miyamoto...
Yup those 2 games would make me think a lot harder about getting a Wii U. Though they still have a ways to go to convince me I want that system
Well they couldn't do worse than OtherM
Starfox on the other hand just seems to have consistently missed the mark with me since the SNES was great and I recall fondly the N64 but after that ...... not so much.
Course if anything is going to sell me on a WiiU it will be whatever Zelda they manage to crank out.
Starfox on the other hand just seems to have consistently missed the mark with me since the SNES was great and I recall fondly the N64 but after that ...... not so much.
Course if anything is going to sell me on a WiiU it will be whatever Zelda they manage to crank out.
"with Metroid it's very easy to imagine some interesting implementation for Wii U. I think that having another screen with the gyro built in really gives you a lot of interesting opportunities for development, and we can bring a lot of our games to life in a completely unique way with that."
IS MIYAMOTO THE FUCKER SHOEHORNING MOTION SHIT INTO EVERYTHING???
IS MIYAMOTO THE FUCKER SHOEHORNING MOTION SHIT INTO EVERYTHING???
A new Star Fox that is more like 64 and nothing like Assualt, and a Metroid more like Super or Prime and nothing like Other M would reverse my current course away from the Wii U. The lack of F-Zero love is a little sad though.
Regardless, talk is cheap. Don't tell me, show me.
Regardless, talk is cheap. Don't tell me, show me.
@Alan - Sakamoto doesn't know why people loved Super Metroid. If he did, there would be sequence breaking and no voice overs.
Fusion and Other M pretty much forbade sequence breaking. Zero Mission had better exploration than both, but mostly devoid of breaking.
I think Retro understands Metroid better and while I'm sure they could do a fine 2D entry, I'll take whatever they give. If you're just going to toss a map on the bottom screen make a 3DS game.
Fusion and Other M pretty much forbade sequence breaking. Zero Mission had better exploration than both, but mostly devoid of breaking.
I think Retro understands Metroid better and while I'm sure they could do a fine 2D entry, I'll take whatever they give. If you're just going to toss a map on the bottom screen make a 3DS game.
And could this be the sewing of the seeds of revealing whatever the hell Retro is doing right now? They've not been sitting on their hands since Donkey Kong Country Returns, I'd guess.
@TSP
I suppose I could live without the sequence breaking, but I'd definitely prefer having it, yeah.
I wasn't thinking just having the map down there (more having the map there when you don't need that screen for anything else), but shit, I'd take an SNES style Metroid on the 3DS. I know for sure I'm getting one of those in August, I wouldn't even have to worry about fretting over a Wii U.
I suppose I could live without the sequence breaking, but I'd definitely prefer having it, yeah.
I wasn't thinking just having the map down there (more having the map there when you don't need that screen for anything else), but shit, I'd take an SNES style Metroid on the 3DS. I know for sure I'm getting one of those in August, I wouldn't even have to worry about fretting over a Wii U.
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Alright! More Mario, Zelda, Starfox, SSB and Pikmin to add to my growing collection of Mario, Zelda, Starfox, SSB and Pikmin games.
You and me both, Shiggy, you and me both. Y'know, as bad as I want another side-scrolling Metroid (it's been, what, 10 years now?), I'd be cool with a Metroid Prime using the controller screen for scanning/lore and possibly some interactive mini-game stuff (hacking terminals, morph ball puzzles?). I think I'd rather have Metroid 5 on 3DS, honestly.
Gods yes. This is exactly what I wanted to see from Nintendo at e3. Also whatever retro's been working on since dkcr. Also, what TSP said. Sakamoto understands Metroid as well as Lucas does Star Wars these days.
I would love Metroid on console again but I would really love a 3DS Metroid that follows after Fusion or something because Fusion and Zero Mission were freaking amazing and this sentence really shouldn't go on any longer but I just can't stop typing because of the hype.
Dear Nintendo,
Please spend less time rendering furs and more time making an awesomely badass sequel to Star Fox 64.
P.S. Or else your stupid new console can go drown itself.
Please spend less time rendering furs and more time making an awesomely badass sequel to Star Fox 64.
P.S. Or else your stupid new console can go drown itself.
@The Silent Protagonist
"Fusion and Other M pretty much forbade sequence breaking."
Sequence breaking has always been unintentional, the result of bugs in the code, except when it has been deliberately scripted into the game, and starting with Super Metroid all games in the series have scripted sequence breaking, even Other M, they just "don't count" (seriously, wtf!?).
You can't expect them to intentionally ignore potentially game-breaking bugs for just the "possibility" of them leading to new tricks. That's lousy design.
"Fusion and Other M pretty much forbade sequence breaking."
Sequence breaking has always been unintentional, the result of bugs in the code, except when it has been deliberately scripted into the game, and starting with Super Metroid all games in the series have scripted sequence breaking, even Other M, they just "don't count" (seriously, wtf!?).
You can't expect them to intentionally ignore potentially game-breaking bugs for just the "possibility" of them leading to new tricks. That's lousy design.
@ElektroDragon Really? Achivements matter SO MUCH that you wouldn't buy a game that is 10/10 and fantastic? That's really sad.
@Scuffles
They can do worse than Other M. They can make Other M 2.
Remember that Retro is the Western view of Samus, while Other M is the Japanese view of the character.
If Nintendo pushes a new Metroid for the Wii U, they'll probably push a Japanese Metroid. Even if they get a different development studio (which can be either good or bad), at the least we'd see the unfortunate return of the storytelling and characterization of Other M. I'm certain they can do more damage to Samus than they already have.
They can do worse than Other M. They can make Other M 2.
Remember that Retro is the Western view of Samus, while Other M is the Japanese view of the character.
If Nintendo pushes a new Metroid for the Wii U, they'll probably push a Japanese Metroid. Even if they get a different development studio (which can be either good or bad), at the least we'd see the unfortunate return of the storytelling and characterization of Other M. I'm certain they can do more damage to Samus than they already have.
◔_◔ I liked Other M I think that Samus from other M had a good potential for character development. Then again Samus should already "be" developed since its supposed to happened after SNES Metroid *sign* I have mix feelings for Metroid Other M
As long as they don't screw the new Metroid up like Other M. I'm one of the people who enjoyed Other M, but I can still see why it's bad in a few areas. Hoping we can get another 2D Metroid title though, not a huge Prime fan.
@The Silent Protagonist
Wow, this is the first time I've heard of sequence breaking and I've played Metroid games for years. Had to look it up to find out what it is. Due to that I can't think of it as a necessary element to the series.
Man, now I have something to do on my next playthrough of Metroid Fusion at least. I've beaten that game three times and never knew about the secret message.
@The Silent Protagonist
Wow, this is the first time I've heard of sequence breaking and I've played Metroid games for years. Had to look it up to find out what it is. Due to that I can't think of it as a necessary element to the series.
Man, now I have something to do on my next playthrough of Metroid Fusion at least. I've beaten that game three times and never knew about the secret message.
I actually want two versions of a StarFox game. The first being the true to the game origins like SNES SF or N64 ones. The other, which I am probably the only few who liked it, one like Adventures. I liked the on foot stuff, it could have been done better yes, but I liked it.
@Felix Arturo Macias Ibarra
"◔_◔ I liked Other M I think that Samus from other M had a good potential for character development."
Doesn't matter; the "community" and "the media" have decided the game is horrible, sexists, unplayable and has destroyed the character forever, therefore you must hate it and everyone involved.
Unless, of course, you're an "individual" or something.
"◔_◔ I liked Other M I think that Samus from other M had a good potential for character development."
Doesn't matter; the "community" and "the media" have decided the game is horrible, sexists, unplayable and has destroyed the character forever, therefore you must hate it and everyone involved.
Unless, of course, you're an "individual" or something.
As long as Sakamoto stays far away from Metroid, I'm all for it, also I'm hoping they provide at least a moderate challenge, I am sick and tired of the dumbing down of everything
@Baines
To be honest I never really played the original metroids, was never super huge into side scrolling metroidvainia games. I did really love the Metroid prime series tho.
@El Conrado
You are perfectly welcome to like whatever game you deem worthy. Personally I found Samuses portrayal to be less than acceptable but the same would have gone if it had been a dude in magic space armor. Having your rockets, having a door that for some reason requires rockets to open .... and not being able to use them because your "rocket credentials" had been suspended ..... is bullshit by any standard, male or female.
At least in prime it had the cliche but acceptable ... your suit was somehow damaged and you lost your weapons "go find them".
To be honest I never really played the original metroids, was never super huge into side scrolling metroidvainia games. I did really love the Metroid prime series tho.
@El Conrado
You are perfectly welcome to like whatever game you deem worthy. Personally I found Samuses portrayal to be less than acceptable but the same would have gone if it had been a dude in magic space armor. Having your rockets, having a door that for some reason requires rockets to open .... and not being able to use them because your "rocket credentials" had been suspended ..... is bullshit by any standard, male or female.
At least in prime it had the cliche but acceptable ... your suit was somehow damaged and you lost your weapons "go find them".
I don't think Sakamoto is the right person to handle Samus as a character, and I also find it very telling that there's a lot of stuff in Other M that completely invalidates lore established in Metroid Prime, particularly for the Space Pirates.
That said, I still enjoyed the actual gameplay of Other M. Even though they changed a few aspects of it, the general gameplay still felt like a genuine Metroid game to me. I'd love an Other M style of game on the 3DS, truth told, and feel it would be a perfect platform for it (especially after playing Super Mario 3D Land, which uses a similar "3D but with 2D sensibilities" gameplay style).
That said, I still enjoyed the actual gameplay of Other M. Even though they changed a few aspects of it, the general gameplay still felt like a genuine Metroid game to me. I'd love an Other M style of game on the 3DS, truth told, and feel it would be a perfect platform for it (especially after playing Super Mario 3D Land, which uses a similar "3D but with 2D sensibilities" gameplay style).
@Scuffles
"...and not being able to use them because your "rocket credentials" had been suspended ..... is bullshit by any standard, male or female."
True, but really, are we going to hold "Gameplay and Story Segregation" against THIS game? For real?
And also, the whole "ruined forever" thing has reached the point where I can honestly say the people spewing it have, indeed, ruined the game for me. I can't enjoy the game like I did the first time, because every time I start playing them I hear every goddamn complain replay in my head and go "why the hell did this game bother them so much", putting me in a state of mind where I can get no enjoyment pout of it.
Thank you, community.
"...and not being able to use them because your "rocket credentials" had been suspended ..... is bullshit by any standard, male or female."
True, but really, are we going to hold "Gameplay and Story Segregation" against THIS game? For real?
And also, the whole "ruined forever" thing has reached the point where I can honestly say the people spewing it have, indeed, ruined the game for me. I can't enjoy the game like I did the first time, because every time I start playing them I hear every goddamn complain replay in my head and go "why the hell did this game bother them so much", putting me in a state of mind where I can get no enjoyment pout of it.
Thank you, community.
Yeah, great.
Call me when either of them doesn't suck. Other M was a tragedy, and there hasn't been a good Star Fox since the N64.
Call me when either of them doesn't suck. Other M was a tragedy, and there hasn't been a good Star Fox since the N64.
Somethings I think Miyamoto isn't even listened to anymore at Nintendo, he just gets to tell people what's wrong with what their are currently working on. He hasn't been able to just say to Iwata, lets make new games of old that are timeless and everyone LOVED and would buy the shit out of??? Like oh IDK. 2D Zelda on a TV? How bout 2D Metroid on a TV? How bout F-Zero on the TV? 1080? Wave Race? These games seem to be ignored as just filler for the Virtual Console through the Wii lifespan. Granted, the Wii didn't really have much to offer the games when you think about it, in terms of 1uping them. So I hope with all the free time they have had with the Wii printing money on the motion controls they are ready to really bring out the Guns on every front and genre. Make the kiddies shut up about CoD for awhile with a really good FPS Nintendo style.
So say we all.
actually the absence of one of these was what made E3 so disappointing for me. After opening with Pikmin, I was so sure they would end with one of these two, which are both just perfect for WiiU
actually the absence of one of these was what made E3 so disappointing for me. After opening with Pikmin, I was so sure they would end with one of these two, which are both just perfect for WiiU
hopefully, if Miyamoto and the original team are working on it, the FPS (Prime) games were developed by Retro Studios after all. It kinda saddens me though, tehre will never be a Metroid for 3DS :(
Miyamoto is insatiable! We give him Pikmin 3 and he says "what about metroid U" then we give him Nintendo Land and he says "give me Star Fox U". Miyamoto is insatiable!
I know that Nintendo's a company, and companies have limits, but frankly I wish they wouldn't say things like this, even Miyamoto. The company should always be thought of as one who looks to grow all of their properties, not just a few because it could so well for the platform, even if they have no intentions of exploring all their properties.
This is a hole Nintendo digs for themselves every time, and makes people expect things that may never come to them, instead of them having the innate hope that they could see ANY of Nintendo's glorious properties show up, at any time. Theres something to be said about keeping people in the dark on your ideas.
@Alan (The Man formerly known as RedOne)
Thats a great idea, but you know they're going to do a FPS Prime-like game again. I'd buy either one, but I'd buy your idea a few more times over.
This is a hole Nintendo digs for themselves every time, and makes people expect things that may never come to them, instead of them having the innate hope that they could see ANY of Nintendo's glorious properties show up, at any time. Theres something to be said about keeping people in the dark on your ideas.
@Alan (The Man formerly known as RedOne)
Thats a great idea, but you know they're going to do a FPS Prime-like game again. I'd buy either one, but I'd buy your idea a few more times over.
I´m currently playing through Prime for the 1000time and it is my second favourite game of all time.
Has actually someone thought of the third person perspective for a Prime style game ? The combat could be like the FP metroids with on-lock and such, but it could be more dynamic, imagine: for jumping sections, the camera could zoom out to give a better picture of the plattforms and you could scan by using the Wii U Gamepad as a "scan visor" ...
Maybe they could draw some inspiration from Dead Space sans extreme violence and with faster movementsand Prime shooting controls...I would buy it!
Has actually someone thought of the third person perspective for a Prime style game ? The combat could be like the FP metroids with on-lock and such, but it could be more dynamic, imagine: for jumping sections, the camera could zoom out to give a better picture of the plattforms and you could scan by using the Wii U Gamepad as a "scan visor" ...
Maybe they could draw some inspiration from Dead Space sans extreme violence and with faster movementsand Prime shooting controls...I would buy it!
Here's a fucking idea: NEW INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.
But yea I would kind of also like a 2D Metroid.
(Fuck I did it again... >_<)
But yea I would kind of also like a 2D Metroid.
(Fuck I did it again... >_<)
but theres not going to be a new metroid, because it would be disrespectful for the guy who was in charge of the series and left them
right miyamoto?
right miyamoto?
@ctg867
"Here's a fucking idea: NEW INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY."
...and like every time someone says this, I must ask: why?
Why do you want a new IP? What would a "new IP" give you that an existing one wouldn't, and what does that have to do with the IP itself?
'Cause, from where I'm standing, it looks like you're just asking for asking's sake.
"Here's a fucking idea: NEW INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY."
...and like every time someone says this, I must ask: why?
Why do you want a new IP? What would a "new IP" give you that an existing one wouldn't, and what does that have to do with the IP itself?
'Cause, from where I'm standing, it looks like you're just asking for asking's sake.
@El Conrado
Yeah, how dare those Other M haters actually provide arguments why Other is a terrible Metroid game and suggests ways to improve what Sakamoto had in mind! They should be like us Other M fans, saying the game is good because WE like it without providing any reason or argument!
Yeah, how dare those Other M haters actually provide arguments why Other is a terrible Metroid game and suggests ways to improve what Sakamoto had in mind! They should be like us Other M fans, saying the game is good because WE like it without providing any reason or argument!
El Conrado: Sorry gamers ask for a change of scenery--a little creativity, lol. Never heard someone defend the side against new IP's...I don't think he's asking..."for asking's sake" I think he just hasn't seen a new IP from Nintendo since like...what, Pikmin? Nintendo obviously makes some amazing games, but you don't have to rehash every character from the 8-bit era every year. I will say, Nintendo has quite the repertoire of characters to grab from, but it wouldn't hurt to give us a new one or two every TEN years, lol.
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