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While the world "oohs" and "aahs" at Microsoft's hands-off Project Natal concept, Nintendo design legend Shigeru Miyamoto has voiced skepticism for the whole idea. Unsure that Natal will work, the waggle fan states that an interactive experience needs a physical controller.

"As someone who thinks of things from the perspective of creating interactive experiences, I really think that you do need something [to hold]," claims the impish game creator. "I don't think as a creator that I could create an experience that truly feels interactive if you don't have something to hold in your hand, if you don't have something like force feedback that you can feel from the controller. That's why I think the Wii remote, particularly with Wii MotionPlus, makes for such a strong experience."

I wouldn't use the simplified Wiimote as a good example, but then, I don't work for Nintendo. Miyamoto then does what Miyamoto does best, and pours a patronizing, passive-aggressive derision on both Sony and Microsoft: "Looking at what the other companies have shown here at E3, it feels like they have finally obtained the very basic technology for doing motion control, but perhaps they still have to learn how to use that and take advantage of it in an interactive experience."

He then preened himself and went to eat corn with the other peacocks.








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's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 08:24
Clint
It's a dick move, but I have to agree
Furyfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 08:29
Furyfire
...Here's the thing. He had a FAILED attempt back on Motion control YEARS ago with the Power Glove... so he had years and years to get this right.

I guess he has every right to brag... maybe.
's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 08:36
Clint
@furyfire
Power Glove was only licensed by Nintendo, they (and thus Miyamoto) didn't have anything else to do with it.
Fanatism's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 08:40
Fanatism
Jim then does what Jim does best, and pours a patronizing, passive-aggressive derision on everything.
gains's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 08:41
gains
I have to say, I agree. Without force feedback, how do the flailing celebrities know when they've hit those red dodgeballs? Just a little glove with a motor that pulses when you whack stuff would be fine.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 08:43
Sexualchocolate
I agree with him completely.

You need "something" in your hand, the Wii does it well with the little speaker too - brilliant idea.

I'm looking forward to Sony's MoCo idea, looks awesome, looks useful, looks like it will simply improve the gaming experience, but Natal? Wank me off.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 08:47
Jim Sterling
"Jim then does what Jim does best, and pours a patronizing, passive-aggressive derision on everything."

My derision is direct and obvious.

I would respect Miyamoto more if his was too.
Fanatism's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 08:50
Fanatism
But then his courteous Japanese heritage would implode! :C
Kvb's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 08:50
Kvb
He's right. How are you going to play tennis? With your bare hands? And if I had a tennis racket, I'd go play actual tennis.

Also, needs more rumble.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 08:54
Sexualchocolate
"Jim then does what Jim does best, and pours a patronizing, passive-aggressive derision on everything."

Well said.





and he's fat.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 09:01
manasteel88
First they were flattered by Natal and now they belittle it. PR is always fun to listen to in the morning.
Sentry's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 09:04
Sentry
"My derision is direct and obvious.

I would respect Miyamoto more if his was too."

Agreed.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 09:08
Tubatic
Culturally bred polite burn.

I agree. Given a choice of no wand vs wand, I'll take wand.
linuxguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 09:10
linuxguy
I agree with the guy, and that's why I think that sony's dualdildo is the most promising one, that and because of the lags and some detection bugs I saw on the videos(though they could be because the thing is still in development).
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 09:11
ChaosTeaCup
It's all wank. The power glove was the Godfather of Wank. The Wii is the Pop-wank, adn Sony and MS are just trying to cream off some of that wank.
Demtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 09:34
Demtor
The man behind Wii Fit and Wii Music hath spoken. Bow before him!!
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 09:37
Volomon
I'm all for hating on Jim but come on, only when he deserves it. You guys are fail if your being serious.

Nintendo's only successful because parents originally didn't want to shell out huge bucks. Now it succeeds on that word of mouth. Frankly Nintendo is not a hardcore console no matter how you slice it. There are just far more casual play my cellphone games kind of people out there.

This success should not be mimicked because it doesn't fit Sony or MS brand image.

I'm never going to sit in front of my PS3 and start making for some wanking motions. Unless it's interactive porn.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 09:54
SephirothX
So wait. Games need controllers, but this is coming from the same guy who's implementing a system into his games that lets the game play itself for you. Oh, the irony.
Springsteen's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 10:00
Springsteen
After reading the story and the comments, I'm not sure of what I should be hating right know. Therefore, I refrain from commenting anything further.
JuiceMcNasty's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 10:03
JuiceMcNasty
I admit the concept of Natal is pretty neat and I do intend on looking into it further. But I must admit I am not fond of the fact that you are not given anything to hold.

Essentially I fear that everyone is focusing so much on motion controls when the old tried and true method still works fantastically.

Truth is if you would have shown me working motion controls when I was 5 I would have shat myself with glee, but now I find a controller is all I need to be happy.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 10:13
GoldenGamerXero
Controller = Good

I remember telling my friends that the Wii wasn't bad and it could be some sort of controllerless freak. That day has come my friends. That day has come.
Evilvet's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 10:30
Evilvet
i don't understand why they are farting around with this crap. when i come home from busting my ass at work. the last thing i wanna do is do work for a frigging game. if i could get pinpoint accuracy from just using my mind, then i'd be sold. any work that takes more energy than usimg a remote can kiss my fat ass. the wii mote is great for things like mario kart. let's leave it at that.
Mattchewie's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 10:33
Mattchewie
I agree with the motion overlord. You do need a controller, hence why I think Sony's offering might be the best shown for ACTUALLY playing games.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 11:03
Monodi
I would actually prefer the SonyWand over Natal for this detail too.

I think it woulkd be much more ridiculous to waggle your body as if you had a seizure.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 11:15
Chris Carter
@sephirothx
You took the EXACT words right out of my mouth! "OO controllu, you need it to press the button to skippa your gamsu and not play them". Bullshit.
Your Moms Hot Lover's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 11:19
Your Moms Hot Lover
Having never tried natal or the sony wand I can only comment on what I know, the fact that nintendo is a big bag of pig balls.

The wiimote sucks. Waggling sucks. Rumble feedback is as primitive HMI as you can get. Plus- not invented by nintendo so shush fanboys. I vaguely enjoy shooters on the wii. Despite wanting to die from the awful graphics and lack of features and limited multiplayer etc etc

But the bottom line is this - the controller doesn't matter, it's the quality of the software for each individual game that counts.

At least that's what your mom said in bed last night.
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 12:16
psycho terror2
however i look at the picture behind miyamoto, the wiimote appears to be some sort of futuristic penis.
Face's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 12:41
Face
I agree with him. And they can't expect not to get a few jabs over jumping on the motion bandwagon.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 12:48
Holyetheline
I agree with him as well.
atastysammich's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 13:31
atastysammich
"Anything Miyamoto Says" has jumped pretty high on the List of Pointless Internet Arguments, so I'll sit this one out and swipe that headline image to use as my PSP wallpaper.
LsTr Of SmG's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 14:14
LsTr Of SmG
Theoretically the could do a physical add-on as PS3 is doing with the eyetoy so this is all pointless.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 15:08
pedrovay2003
@ Scary Womanizing Pig Mask

I don't think it's a dick move at all --- I agree with him 100% I was far more impressed by Sony's display at E3 than I was with Microsoft's, but he's also right about Nintendo having more experience with the technology. Something tells me the PS3 motion controller is going to blow lots of stuff away, but Nintendo kinda has a right to brag seeing as how well they're doing right now.

@ Your Moms Hot Lover

Yes, the controller does matter. Otherwise Natal and the PS3's motion controller wouldn't be around, trying to compete with the Wii.

Also, what a witty last line, based on your username.
Your Moms Hot Lover's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 17:12
Your Moms Hot Lover
@pedrovay2003

Just because something sells a bunch doesn't mean it is any good. Like, say any Britney Spears record. Or your mom's porno.

In my opinion Nintendo has nothing to brag about because their last generation tech blows and from the sounds of it even the motionplus doesn't deliver on 1:1 movement.

When I say the controller doesn't matter- I meant to the quality of games, not the industry as a whole or the universe or whatever. The control method does not make the game great. Only the programming can do that.

PS - I save my witty comments for real life where people actually laugh, but if you can't tell that my username and repeated mom comments are meant to be a satire on the lameness of fanboy flaming then you're taking yourself and the internet too seriously.
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 18:46
B-Radicate
Of course he says that. He didn't come up with it.

Nintendo also clung to discs and look where that got them that generation.
shinigamiDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/15/2009 21:37
shinigamiDude
ha ha best miyamoto shirt ever!
His shirt supports his dialogue?
007's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/16/2009 04:06
007
...Someone's a little jealous, don't you think?
downsouthhustla's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/16/2009 14:36
downsouthhustla
If you really need a controller, why not pick up whatever is sitting on the table and pretend that it is the wand, while the rest of us enjoy the controller-less experience.
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