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LACK OF COMPELLING SOFTWARE.... I think he was thinking of the 3Ds when it first came out.
*returns to Twitter on my Vita*
*returns to Twitter on my Vita*
The 3DS has given me more entertainment this year, than the Vita has. I haven't really used my Vita since last year, when it was still fresh in the house. It needs "something" before I feel like I can lug it around.
I'm hoping the MGR:Revengeance Vita version will be different from the console version.
I'm hoping the MGR:Revengeance Vita version will be different from the console version.
I'd like to think that Sony had the plan of a good launch line-up and then showing more games at E3, thinking the gap wouldn't feel too long with their launch games.
I think the problem is they put too many games out at launch instead of spacing them out. If only to give the appearance that it was getting a steady flow of games.
Yeah wake me up when either the 3DS or the Vita have a decent selection of games I'd be interested in.
The fact is 3DS was getting railed on in less than two weeks after release and we've had a lot more time for Vita and its not even getting a proper water-boarding in the western press like 3DS did.
Higher expectations for 3DS are what I think the real culprit is here. Sony's launch was just as weak but lower expectations made it seem better than it was.
Then again, for balance, Japanese sales have been consistently bad for Vita, so there's also that to bring it down to earth.
Still, I don't have a reason to own a Vita until Persona 4 and Dragon's Crown are out and with that being so close to the Wii U launch, I might just get P4 and wait to buy a Vita next year.
Higher expectations for 3DS are what I think the real culprit is here. Sony's launch was just as weak but lower expectations made it seem better than it was.
Then again, for balance, Japanese sales have been consistently bad for Vita, so there's also that to bring it down to earth.
Still, I don't have a reason to own a Vita until Persona 4 and Dragon's Crown are out and with that being so close to the Wii U launch, I might just get P4 and wait to buy a Vita next year.
I dunno... the Vita has access to almost the entire PSN library of downloadable titles, while the 3DS has been getting drip-fed obscure niche NES and GameBoy games that nobody really cares about, with the occasional Zelda or Mario classic.
The whole gaming industry is in it's "lull period" right now - couple of interesting titles coming in May, but not a whole lot till the pre-xmas rush from August onwards.
It's not just the Vita or the 3DS - my PS3, Xbox and PC are all kinda bored right now too, and have been for a few months.
It's not just the Vita or the 3DS - my PS3, Xbox and PC are all kinda bored right now too, and have been for a few months.
the difference between Vita and 3DS is that 3DS had strong exclusive and quality games from the very beginning and still have crapton of quality titles coming while Vita had 1-2 "ok at best" games and that's it. not a single new title was announced for Vita(except for Sonic All-Stars 2) since E3 2011 and even then they only had about 60-70 software products in development, INCLUDING APPS like Facebook - and still there's maybe 8-10 actual exclusive games for Vita from which most so far turned out to be quite bad. now all we hear from sony fanboys is 4-5 exact same titles that were announced back then and how "those will be epic and yada yada".
at the same time we have 3DS that where we have new game announcements nearly every week and right now have over 100 titles coming in the next 12 months AND THAT ONLY COVER EXCLUSIVES. even at launch 3DS had more quality exclusive titles than Vita and nobody can't even deny that(there was Uncharted which was ok and Wipeout which wasn't even that good even if we overlook massive amount of problems with that game).
we constantly hear from sony fanboys:
"blah, blah, Gravity Rush"
"blah, blah, Resistance"
"blah, blah, LBP2 port"
"blah, blah, Persona 4 port"
and we hear that since launch and those games will be released in the fall. 3DS have its Gravity Rushes, Resistances on monthly basis for the past several months with big titles being released pretty much every few days.
i made a list of Vita titles i was interested in since its announcement to track them(just like i do for other platforms) and if they would end up good, buy them(if i bought Vita). while 3DS list nearly quadrupled since E3 2010, Vita's list was cut in half and even before the list of games wasn't impressive.
at the same time we have 3DS that where we have new game announcements nearly every week and right now have over 100 titles coming in the next 12 months AND THAT ONLY COVER EXCLUSIVES. even at launch 3DS had more quality exclusive titles than Vita and nobody can't even deny that(there was Uncharted which was ok and Wipeout which wasn't even that good even if we overlook massive amount of problems with that game).
we constantly hear from sony fanboys:
"blah, blah, Gravity Rush"
"blah, blah, Resistance"
"blah, blah, LBP2 port"
"blah, blah, Persona 4 port"
and we hear that since launch and those games will be released in the fall. 3DS have its Gravity Rushes, Resistances on monthly basis for the past several months with big titles being released pretty much every few days.
i made a list of Vita titles i was interested in since its announcement to track them(just like i do for other platforms) and if they would end up good, buy them(if i bought Vita). while 3DS list nearly quadrupled since E3 2010, Vita's list was cut in half and even before the list of games wasn't impressive.
@sofik88
Any credibility your vitriol-infused comment may have had originally gradually dissipates each time you utter the word "fanboy".
Any credibility your vitriol-infused comment may have had originally gradually dissipates each time you utter the word "fanboy".
the two products have such diffrent games so its hard to compare them. If you want nintendo games you get the 3DS and if you want scaled down ps3 games you get the vita.
You just need to ask yourself which system you will wait a another year to get becuse buying a half done system with a too small library for the current price is silly. Lets all play some Katamari damashi or just cause 2 while we wait^^
You just need to ask yourself which system you will wait a another year to get becuse buying a half done system with a too small library for the current price is silly. Lets all play some Katamari damashi or just cause 2 while we wait^^
Personally, I'm just enjoying Kid Icarus: Uprising so much I tend to forget the Vita is even around half the time. The 20 free Ambassador games certainly didn't hurt either...
I've learned my lesson after getting the Wii on 2007. It's always best to wait a few years for the library to beef up, or else your system will gather dust. I got my PS3 and my DS on 2010 and was very happy with them, having a lot of worthwhile titles already released and a lot of new ones underway.
To be fair sofik didn't even need to say "fanboy" - I just saw his name, turned off the "fuck" i give about the rest of yall's opinions, and read has schpiel with a lol.
The Vita launched with a load of very good games, has a fair few in the pipeline, and access to a fucktonne of PSN titles, but launched before a bit of a gap during the industry's quiet time.
Personally i'm still enjoying launch games myself - FIFA doesn't get old, and Unit 13 has a fucktonne to do in it, everybody's golf is still keeping me entertained.
Apart from that i'm waiting for lumines to get cheap somewhere, cause i need it in and around my body, but it's pretty pricey for a block breaking game. But maaaan do I need it! *goes to check the one he's watching on eBay*
Not to mention resistance is out soon (isn't it?) - and mortal kombat launched here today, which i must say i'm kinda tempted by.
right now, the Vita has more games that i want to play than I can justify buying - so personally I'm a happy camper.
And hell, if you're really stuck for something to play on the Vita - fire up Monster Hunter unite, Gods eater burst, or 3rd Birthday or something!
I'm also kinda tempted by Patapon 3 too.. Pata pata...
The Vita launched with a load of very good games, has a fair few in the pipeline, and access to a fucktonne of PSN titles, but launched before a bit of a gap during the industry's quiet time.
Personally i'm still enjoying launch games myself - FIFA doesn't get old, and Unit 13 has a fucktonne to do in it, everybody's golf is still keeping me entertained.
Apart from that i'm waiting for lumines to get cheap somewhere, cause i need it in and around my body, but it's pretty pricey for a block breaking game. But maaaan do I need it! *goes to check the one he's watching on eBay*
Not to mention resistance is out soon (isn't it?) - and mortal kombat launched here today, which i must say i'm kinda tempted by.
right now, the Vita has more games that i want to play than I can justify buying - so personally I'm a happy camper.
And hell, if you're really stuck for something to play on the Vita - fire up Monster Hunter unite, Gods eater burst, or 3rd Birthday or something!
I'm also kinda tempted by Patapon 3 too.. Pata pata...
Personally, I'm just waiting for the RPG's to show up. That's my bread and butter when it comes to handhelds, and the fact that they're finally starting to trickle in on the 3DS plus (Mario, RE: Revelations and the e-shop stuff) are the reasons why I'm so happy with my mine. If the Vita already had P4 or Final Fantasy X or something that I was interested in playing, I'd probably have one by now.
It's a nice machine and I look forward to having one eventually, but there's nothing out now that makes me feel like I NEED one. Resistance and Uncharted are nice, but those aren't system sellers for me.
It's a nice machine and I look forward to having one eventually, but there's nothing out now that makes me feel like I NEED one. Resistance and Uncharted are nice, but those aren't system sellers for me.
Jim must play 5 minutes of a game and then toss it away, if he seriously has no reason to turn on either system. Unless all he does literally all day, besides the zerg rush of posts he does, is continuously plays games back to back to back without the recommended breaks every hour.
PS Vita costs over $300 to take a dip in its pool, so yeah, of course it is going to have a hard time competing with the 3ds, software or no. The software is just adding insult to injury. Once sony learns that overpriced doesn't work in today's market, and act accordingly with the Vita, then it might be salvageable.
How does the PS Vita cost over 300? If you buy a WiFi model with a 4 GB Memory card you're down $285. [Granted, the 3DS was still $105 cheaper]
Anyway, just give me my New King's Story, Gravity Rush, New Monster Hunter[Yes, still rooting for that] and Persona 4.
Oh and although I don't have anything against the 3DS. The Vita still gets the MGS2&3 HD remakes whereas the 3DS gets a 3D-modified MGS3 that has framerate issues. [Time will tell though, Vita versions may not be without framerate issues either]
Anyway, just give me my New King's Story, Gravity Rush, New Monster Hunter[Yes, still rooting for that] and Persona 4.
Oh and although I don't have anything against the 3DS. The Vita still gets the MGS2&3 HD remakes whereas the 3DS gets a 3D-modified MGS3 that has framerate issues. [Time will tell though, Vita versions may not be without framerate issues either]
To be fair the Vita was a no-brainer for me. Cause I just don't give a fuck about Nintendo 1st party games, and even the 3rd party titles don't really do it for me, but I LOVE portable gaming.
I said it about the PS3 and the PSP and i think it rings true about the Vita too, I am smack bang in the middle of their target market - it's like they took exactly what I personally wanted and released it to the letter.
Maybe Nintendo do that for you, or Microsoft, or anyone, but for me, Sony just give me exactly what I want, almost always.
I said it about the PS3 and the PSP and i think it rings true about the Vita too, I am smack bang in the middle of their target market - it's like they took exactly what I personally wanted and released it to the letter.
Maybe Nintendo do that for you, or Microsoft, or anyone, but for me, Sony just give me exactly what I want, almost always.
Seriously, f*ck whoever reads into Miyamoto's statements and blindly feeds into any kind of flat and unenthusiastic stuff SCE has said as a rallying call.
If there is one thing I can take away from being more and more involved with Destructoid's views on the videogame industry it is that there is always more a company do to offer a better product.
VITA needs to be a better product. No matter how you cut it. Heck, VITA could be brining in more new users than 3DS and have more content than iOS, there will still be more to address. From a consumer standpoint, all we can expect is the best and SCE needs to do all that is in their power deliver on more of the promising's of VITA.
If there is one thing I can take away from being more and more involved with Destructoid's views on the videogame industry it is that there is always more a company do to offer a better product.
VITA needs to be a better product. No matter how you cut it. Heck, VITA could be brining in more new users than 3DS and have more content than iOS, there will still be more to address. From a consumer standpoint, all we can expect is the best and SCE needs to do all that is in their power deliver on more of the promising's of VITA.
sofik88, why do you feel the need to comment on Sony news stories when it's clear you hate Sony?
Seriously, it's beyond stupid.
Seriously, it's beyond stupid.
@EggmaniMN, I really don't understand people like you. I feel, more and more, that I just have nothing in common with gamers, despite loving videogames. Sony releases a capable, well-designed, fully-featured handheld system, and it receives nothing but vitriol and hatred from people like yourself. And for what reason? I would love to hear a logical reason why you have such an emotional reaction to a system which you don't own, and seemingly don't plan to own.
It isn't the EAs or Activisions that are killing gaming. It's gamers.
It isn't the EAs or Activisions that are killing gaming. It's gamers.
Well I'm enjoying my Vita at the moment, slowly working through the launch games ( and that mortal Kombat port that's pretty good). I'm really looking forward to the big exclusives coming out soon though (two of which in the next month) I think the 3DS is just living off Mario at the moment I mean there's nothing new coming out week to week ( at least that's what I see every week during releases, wii and 3DS not much).
@NekoD
Yeah, until a few months later when you have to buy yet another memory card because you were foolish enough to buy the 4GB model.
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The Vita, by all accounts, is floundering fairly hard. Its estimated sales in the West are weak, and the definitive sales numbers in Japan are embarassingly bad. I'm with TheSilentProtagonist on this one, the Vita isn't being critiqued nearly as harshly as the 3DS was in the game-o-sphere, and I think it's weird that it isn't.
I want one, it's a gaming device so of course I want one. It's too fucking expensive, though.
Personally, I think the Vita was a huge gamble on Sony's part. They doubled down on the "portable console experience" idea, and it's not exactly paying ends. It makes you wonder exactly how much Monster Hunter was propping up the PSP.
Yeah, until a few months later when you have to buy yet another memory card because you were foolish enough to buy the 4GB model.
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The Vita, by all accounts, is floundering fairly hard. Its estimated sales in the West are weak, and the definitive sales numbers in Japan are embarassingly bad. I'm with TheSilentProtagonist on this one, the Vita isn't being critiqued nearly as harshly as the 3DS was in the game-o-sphere, and I think it's weird that it isn't.
I want one, it's a gaming device so of course I want one. It's too fucking expensive, though.
Personally, I think the Vita was a huge gamble on Sony's part. They doubled down on the "portable console experience" idea, and it's not exactly paying ends. It makes you wonder exactly how much Monster Hunter was propping up the PSP.
@sofik88
See my comment above. Please, explain how you feel personally slighted by the existence of the Vita, so much so that you cannot help but arrive and spout hyperbole and nonsense and insults at every single article mentioning it. Do you have so little in your life that this is all that makes you happy?
See my comment above. Please, explain how you feel personally slighted by the existence of the Vita, so much so that you cannot help but arrive and spout hyperbole and nonsense and insults at every single article mentioning it. Do you have so little in your life that this is all that makes you happy?
What are people gonna do if E3 doesn't give us any news about the Vita? Even then, all those titles will be a long time away, adding to the already growing gap... things are just getting worse! I love my Vita, I have like 10 games for it, which is good considering how long it's been out, but there's not much to look forward to.
He can talk in a year if the Vita still doesn't have games and is belittled to the point they have to cut the price like 40% permanently. Like the 3DS.
Until then I say the 3DS still did much worse than the Vita. Which will do better when the Japanese get those pervy games they're so fond of like the 3DS game that's including a tissue box so you can fap to it.
Until then I say the 3DS still did much worse than the Vita. Which will do better when the Japanese get those pervy games they're so fond of like the 3DS game that's including a tissue box so you can fap to it.
@Jinxed Havoc
I am just tired of all the constant Vita bashing. I just don't understand it. If you're a gamer, you should, logically, support a quality release like the Vita, and not wish death on one of the key companies in gaming. It just makes no sense to me. I think Nintendo, MS, and Sony all have their place, and all produce worthy products, to one degree or another.
As for terrible launches, how about the awful launch lineup for the 360. What was the best title there? CoD2? The hardware was fine, the launch lineup was terrible. Perfect Dark Zero was insanely bad. I waited it out until decent titles finally started to show, but it took quite a while.
I am just tired of all the constant Vita bashing. I just don't understand it. If you're a gamer, you should, logically, support a quality release like the Vita, and not wish death on one of the key companies in gaming. It just makes no sense to me. I think Nintendo, MS, and Sony all have their place, and all produce worthy products, to one degree or another.
As for terrible launches, how about the awful launch lineup for the 360. What was the best title there? CoD2? The hardware was fine, the launch lineup was terrible. Perfect Dark Zero was insanely bad. I waited it out until decent titles finally started to show, but it took quite a while.
@ilgiallomondadori,
because the Vita is a joke? you need to buy SEPARATE overpriced memory card to even get it running. add to that inability to play PSX games, PS2 games from PSN, lack of games and those games that were released are at the same level of quality as Gameloft iOS titles. why do we need all that power in 300+$ console with 40$ if 0.99$ iOS title has similar level of content and quality. my friend picked up Vita and he was trying to sell it to everyone he's seen and after the hype died even he is questioning buying the whole thing. right now he's using it for apps exclusively - he bought 300+euro GAME CONSOLE that is now used for Twitter and Facebook. most of those games are a joke given their 30-40$ price tag and most of them look at best on par with PSP games.
my current list of wanted Vita games goes like this:
Disgaea 3 - only because i don't like those types of games on home consoles and original game is unavailable here,
Bioshock - which is right now nothing more than an idea since they don't have a script, didn't start any pre-production and don't even know if they will make this game internally or outsource it so we're looking at 2014-2015 release IF it won't be CANCELLED.
Persona 4 The Golden - which is a port of a game i've already played like 5 times.
Dragon's Crown - which is is publishing hell right now with a posibility of not even coming outside Japan.
Gravity Daze
Little Kings Story 2 - which turned out to be a remake with different artstyle which i don't like.
6 games, only one of which was released and 2 possible not coming out of Japan with another one(LKS2) being just an unwanted(by me) butchered port of a wii game i already own.
because the Vita is a joke? you need to buy SEPARATE overpriced memory card to even get it running. add to that inability to play PSX games, PS2 games from PSN, lack of games and those games that were released are at the same level of quality as Gameloft iOS titles. why do we need all that power in 300+$ console with 40$ if 0.99$ iOS title has similar level of content and quality. my friend picked up Vita and he was trying to sell it to everyone he's seen and after the hype died even he is questioning buying the whole thing. right now he's using it for apps exclusively - he bought 300+euro GAME CONSOLE that is now used for Twitter and Facebook. most of those games are a joke given their 30-40$ price tag and most of them look at best on par with PSP games.
my current list of wanted Vita games goes like this:
Disgaea 3 - only because i don't like those types of games on home consoles and original game is unavailable here,
Bioshock - which is right now nothing more than an idea since they don't have a script, didn't start any pre-production and don't even know if they will make this game internally or outsource it so we're looking at 2014-2015 release IF it won't be CANCELLED.
Persona 4 The Golden - which is a port of a game i've already played like 5 times.
Dragon's Crown - which is is publishing hell right now with a posibility of not even coming outside Japan.
Gravity Daze
Little Kings Story 2 - which turned out to be a remake with different artstyle which i don't like.
6 games, only one of which was released and 2 possible not coming out of Japan with another one(LKS2) being just an unwanted(by me) butchered port of a wii game i already own.
@sofik88 - you're ranting again. You haven't answered my question, you've only vomited forth a wall of borderline illiterate nonsense. If you do not own the Vita, nor do you ever plan on buying one, what drives you to write such hateful, untrue nonsense? What is your own personal involvement? By your display of anger, I'd swear the Vita had murdered one of your family members.
Mortal Kombat Vita is an example of what the machine is capable of.....if SONY is smart enough to actually put some muscle behind the machine and announce a slew of quality titles at E3 and drop the price on the machine and its memory cards.....It could sell like hotcakes.
If Battlefield 3 or Call of Duty is not announced for the machine at E3......it will be a HUGE disappointment.
If Battlefield 3 or Call of Duty is not announced for the machine at E3......it will be a HUGE disappointment.
@ZendQ
Belittled? Are you 15 or something?
And you realize that the 3DS sold gangbusters last year, right?
Trust me, the Vita ill needs such an ignorant defense. Do Sony a favor and never talk about the Vita in public.
Belittled? Are you 15 or something?
And you realize that the 3DS sold gangbusters last year, right?
Trust me, the Vita ill needs such an ignorant defense. Do Sony a favor and never talk about the Vita in public.
I'm feeling a lull on both sides, with the occasional Gravity Rush or Mario Kart sprinkled over the year. I'm fine with it, somehow.
While I don't disagree I think he might need to analyze his own product. The Vita has a lot of power, and I think it has the potential to do really well in the market, but he's right it really lacks essential games to get it started. It had a great launch line up compared to the 3ds, but the year is lacking, much like the 3ds' first year.
Problem is, the 3ds hasn't really gathered much affection from me either, by far my most played game on there is samurai warriors, because I fucking love samurai warriors. I own 7 games, and I haven't even opened 3 of them, and I don't really feel compelled to do so. Nothing about the system has really captured the greatness the gameboy advance held. I think SM3d Land is really boring, which is a big bummer considering I love Mario 64, but it really failed to capture that style I was expecting. I'm looking forward to Paper Mario and Luigi's Mansion, but I can't help feel like Nintendo has already lost in my mind.
I know in the overall market Nintendo will win in sales regardless, but much like the PSP vs DS, I think the Vita is the better system. More power, better design, lots of potential. Sony's big problem is they just can't manage to garner support. They only need one game to put them on the map, a monster hunter for the east, cowadooty for the west. They can't just expect developers to come to the system when they haven't been trying to sell it to them as a profitable venture.
Just one mans opinion, so don't get your balloon knot in a tizzy.
Problem is, the 3ds hasn't really gathered much affection from me either, by far my most played game on there is samurai warriors, because I fucking love samurai warriors. I own 7 games, and I haven't even opened 3 of them, and I don't really feel compelled to do so. Nothing about the system has really captured the greatness the gameboy advance held. I think SM3d Land is really boring, which is a big bummer considering I love Mario 64, but it really failed to capture that style I was expecting. I'm looking forward to Paper Mario and Luigi's Mansion, but I can't help feel like Nintendo has already lost in my mind.
I know in the overall market Nintendo will win in sales regardless, but much like the PSP vs DS, I think the Vita is the better system. More power, better design, lots of potential. Sony's big problem is they just can't manage to garner support. They only need one game to put them on the map, a monster hunter for the east, cowadooty for the west. They can't just expect developers to come to the system when they haven't been trying to sell it to them as a profitable venture.
Just one mans opinion, so don't get your balloon knot in a tizzy.
Yeah, both systems kind of took opposite routes, though I think we see now which was the best for sales...
3DS had an AWFUL launch lineup (one of the worst I'd ever seen for a new console or handheld), and the sales reflected that at first. Then came a big price drop and a couple of staple games and the thing sells like hotcakes.
Vita had one of the best launch lineups I've ever seen for a console/handheld and then hit a few month lull with nothing really coming out and the sales are lower than ever.
Both of them are currently in a dry spot, but the 3DS is cheaper and has Mario to fall back on.
I think the Vita absolutely NEEDS a price drop to keep it competitive. There's a few pretty awesome games on the horizon. Maybe just a $25 drop? At the very least, they should drop those memory prices. That would make me step up to the plate and buy one A LOT sooner.
3DS had an AWFUL launch lineup (one of the worst I'd ever seen for a new console or handheld), and the sales reflected that at first. Then came a big price drop and a couple of staple games and the thing sells like hotcakes.
Vita had one of the best launch lineups I've ever seen for a console/handheld and then hit a few month lull with nothing really coming out and the sales are lower than ever.
Both of them are currently in a dry spot, but the 3DS is cheaper and has Mario to fall back on.
I think the Vita absolutely NEEDS a price drop to keep it competitive. There's a few pretty awesome games on the horizon. Maybe just a $25 drop? At the very least, they should drop those memory prices. That would make me step up to the plate and buy one A LOT sooner.
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