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Miyamoto: Mario Galaxy 2 is for 'veteran gamers' photo

Nintendo loves to convince embittered and cynical "hardcore" gamers that they haven't changed, and nobody wants to claim that he's still "cool" more than lovable mentalcase Shigeru Miyamoto. If you were worried that Super Mario Galaxy 2 wouldn't be "hardcore" enough for you (and let's face it, you weren't), Miyamoto is here to put such fears to rest.

"I do believe that there is a lot here to appeal to the more veteran and more experienced gamers," he explains, "and I think it’s a title that they will obviously enjoy, but I really took it into consideration and tried to do our best to create a game that’s accessible to new gamers as well.

"And, you know, we also built it with consideration that we believe that people who played through the first Mario Galaxy have become better players."

Well, that's good then. Looks like Nintendo hasn't implemented its "look at the screen to win the game" system just yet. Perhaps they're saving that for Mario Galaxy 3.


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John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 11:13
John B
Most of SMG was pretty easy, but some of the levels in SMG were NOT easy at all. I'm still stuck at 119 stars because the last remaining level has eaten my ass too many times to count.

Still, it will be nice to have bit challenge throughout as long as it's consistent.
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 11:13
Phoenix Gamma
Poor Yoshi. Mario is too rough.

Look! He can barely hold all of his semen!

Mirax's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 11:16
Mirax
Well, the first one was very easy, so it's nice to see the sequel will be a little more difficult. Anyway, can't wait for thi game!
Matthew Razak's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 11:18
Matthew Razak
I'm excited if this is true. If the Japanese Mario 2 is any indication of the difficulty increase in a direct mario sequel then we're all going to have good challenge ahead of us.
HiddenAHB's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 11:32
HiddenAHB
Miyamoto is trying to redeem itself from the whole Kind Mode.
Probably a sex mini game in SMG2.
D Sane's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 11:32
D Sane
I don't see why they keep catering to this "new gamer" subset. Back when all of us "veteran gamers" were just starting out, we were all "new gamers" and most of the games for the original NES were brutal.
L0cky's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 11:45
L0cky
Cant wait for this game , smg 1 was already freaking amazing.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 11:52
Super Drybones
Looks like he's getting hard in yoshi's core.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 11:59
Chronic Logic
Mario hardcore? Give him a gun.
bodybreak's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 12:03
bodybreak
want Mario to be hardcore?
take some pointers from Shadow the Hedgehog... defs HxC.
CocoJambo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 12:11
CocoJambo
@D Sane

And that's why we were nerds and games were regarded as entertainment for OCD kids.
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 12:15
Corak
Damn and I thought I'd beat the inevitable journalist troll that usually comes out when Sterling posts something. Anyway, I would enjoy a challenging Mario game as long as its not "cheap" challenging.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 12:19
Jim Sterling
"look at meeeeeeeeee. Hello? Anyone there?"

You know kid, implying that I'm not getting attention would work if you hadn't just ... y'know ... given me attention.

You are caught in a paradox, son.
boots555's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 12:20
boots555
This is good news, as much as I loved the first game I found it super easy. I would fly thru levels without a challenge.
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 12:27
Gen Eric Gui
I dunno about you guys, but some of the Purple Coin challenges in the original just completely kicked my ass. You could get through the main game by just grabbing all the easy stars, but some of the optional ones were absolutely brutal. I hope they're able to make this game just like that.
gamadaya's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 12:27
gamadaya
Oooo, hardcore gamers huh? Oh boy, now I'm all excited. I'm sure that statement will amount to bullshit, as people seem to have forgotten what hard actually means. And as for the first SMG training people to be better players... well, I guess maybe. It wasn't ridiculously easy the whole way through. And none of this hardness crap would even matter if they just switched back to the 64/Sunshine style.

Also, Jim, you don't have to respond to every troll.
Havoc Fang's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 12:31
Havoc Fang
@gamadaya

No, but it sure is fun reading it.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 12:52
Jim Sterling
Please like me. D-:
Magnalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 13:10
Magnalon
This is more bullshit by Miyamoto: the game will be the exact same difficulty as MG1.

@Agnates
He's a fallen father of modern gaming, so it's really funny to make jokes. Get it?
triclops41's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 13:11
triclops41
Wow Jim. I'm constantly amazed by your ability to inspire hate for such innocuous things. You have a true talent.
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 13:26
Los255
I don't care who it's for, just bring the game.

To this day, I still
don't get how everyone was "OMFG Sunshine was the hardest ever"

MG 1 was easy too. Now, it had some of Sunshine's punishing platform sections, but still pretty easy.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 13:33
Kyousuke Nanbu
Haven gotten all 120 stars in SMG, this is fine by me, just no more repeats of Rolling Gizmo galaxy please.
Jon Bloodspray's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 14:11
Jon Bloodspray
Hardcore? You mean it will as nonlinear and fun as 64 was? That would be awesome! In all honesty, I think will be very little more than what the (imo) subpar Galaxy was.
Im OK's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 14:21
Im OK
Every level will make Luigi's Purple Coins look like a cakewalk! Honestly though, I hope that's not true because FUCK Luigi's Purple Coins.

(Who the fuck are all these retarded, no-avatar-having assbags who keep coming out of the woodwork to wave around their microscopic hate-boners every time Jim posts something?)
NihonTiger90's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 14:23
NihonTiger90
Please let this game be harder. That would be most excellent.
theswitcher's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 14:27
theswitcher
Leave it to the sweaty keyboard of Jim Sterling to find ways to complain about Shigeru Miyamoto saying the sequel to one of the best games released this generation is gonna be harder.
Jon Bloodspray's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 14:32
Jon Bloodspray
Sweet, I'm a retarded, no-avatar-having assbag. Actually, I'm just too lazy to pick an avatar. But you can hate, if it makes you feel better ;) Stay sexy buddy.
theswitcher's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 14:44
theswitcher
Ah, destructoid's classic defense of "having no avatar completely makes any point you write worthless!" If you have no avatar, you can't possible take offense at Jim Sterling's tabloid-esque drivel which he calls "news reporting"

The only reason I don't have an avatar, is because I've seen so many talkbacks where he cries and whines that no-avatar scumbags make him so angry that every stomach roll just quivers in rage.

But I digress, as I'm currently stuck in his trans-fat coated labyrinthine of a paradox. I can't get out. :(
Jon Bloodspray's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 14:48
Jon Bloodspray
@ theswitcher - I think we have different opinions on the blog topic, but agree on the idea that having a avatar doesn't matter for shit. Cheers.
-PL-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 14:57
-PL-
SMG was the best game on Wii by far, so more of that sounds great.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 15:01
Elsa
hmmm... "veteran" gamers... with that new easy button for all upcoming games, do they mean elderly seniors who survived WWII??
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 15:08
Justice
@Nanbu
There were 121 stars in SMG, and 242 if you count the playthrough as Luigi.

SMG was very easy for most of the game, it's the first 3-D Mario I've fully completed (as in gotten all the stars). I loved every moment of it though, even the second playthrough. I definitely welcome a challenge though, the harder a Mario game is, the more I appreciate it and the more I feel rewarded for completing the challenges.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 15:48
Syn
The reason that retarded, no-avatar-having assbags get the response they do is because if you don't take the time to give yourself a face of some sort it looks like you just popped in to throw down some trollish comment and then bounce. Regardless of what your intentions actually are that is what you are walking in to. Resorting to shit that fat people have heard since elementary school doesn't help your cause either. You can't genuinely try to make a point and then throw down an insult, it's counter-productive.

Even if the other person does it first. Honestly, do people know nothing about conversation and debate?

And you don't need to jump to Miyamoto's defense either, he's a big boy, with lots of money. He cares not how much shit we talk.
TheDreadHawk's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 15:52
TheDreadHawk
Awesome! More Mario!
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 17:09
Kyousuke Nanbu
I know Justice but getting all 120 with Mario is an accomplishment in itself and the game's not much different with Luigi beyond his insane jumping capacity and skidding to a stop.

I just rolling Gizmo galaxy.
StriderS's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 17:37
StriderS
I'm still a little butt hurt about Galaxy. I got in confused with NSMB Wii and thought it had Mario and Luigi co-op.

Anyway, good news. Even if hardcore gamers is the most annoying phrase ever.
Im OK's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 23:01
Im OK
Okay, fine, remove the "no-avatar-having" bit from my last comment if it gets your panties all in a twist. However, the rest of it is still valid, particularly the "retarded" and "assbag" parts.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/11/2009 23:02
Dan CiTi
I have a feeling that this game will start as hard as Mario Galaxy 1 was about 1/2 or 2/3rds of the way through and end even harder.
GohanGVO's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2009 00:22
GohanGVO
I am all for a challenge, but I hope it does not venture into the territory of Toofuckinghardikstan. Truthfully, what I am truly looking forward to is the various new level designs.
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2009 00:42
hpv
"If you were worried that Super Mario Galaxy 2 wouldn't be "hardcore" enough for you (and let's face it, you weren't), Miyamoto is here to put such fears to rest."

You're absolutely right, Jim. After the ridiculously poor Super Mario Galaxy I'm concerned that SMG2 will be able to even hold the attention of babies. All of the people who loved SMG need to get their heads examined. A game that easy should bore anyone to tears who isn't retarded or suffering from severe brain damage.
SetoChaos's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2009 05:16
SetoChaos
Finally, I hope this means that they are no including the "skip X part of the game" feature in this game. That would completely destroy any challenge the game would have.
protomark's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2009 08:19
protomark
Sure, the game will be harder, but is it going to TELL ME how FUCKING HARD THIS LEVEL IS GOING TO BE and HOW GREAT I AM for POUNDING that SONOFABITCH POST every GODDAMNED FIVE SECONDS

does "challenge" mean i can't actually see the blue star piece when the rabbit is giving me a hint as to its location? oh! maybe the rabbit won't tell me exactly where it is!! oh, man, i'm pissing myself with excitement.
mikeyed's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2009 16:25
mikeyed
I wants more core...
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2009 20:22
Sharpless
It's funny because it's true.

I forgot what part I was referring to by saying that, but I felt like using the line anyway. Don't judge me.
Fyrebrand's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2009 22:54
Fyrebrand
Why would Miyamoto need to make yet another game for "veteran and more experienced gamers"?? We've already got Wii Music and Animal Crossing. You don't get more hardcore than that.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/13/2009 13:24
Holyetheline
I crave mario games like no other. This is happy news, hopefully I don't 120 star this one in a few days.
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