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This is surprising. The game people widly consider the best Mario and he's embarrased? To each his own, I suppose.
He's given his opinion on World and 3. I can't wait to hear what Miyamoto says about 64 and Sunshine.
SMB3 is the best of the series up to and including the Galaxy games.
Miyamoto is pulling a James Cameron and letting all this praise go to his head. Fuck him.
Miyamoto is pulling a James Cameron and letting all this praise go to his head. Fuck him.
Creators get like this sometimes. They look back on their past work and, no matter how great the work may be, they can't help but be embarrassed that some parts are the way they are. It's the same for artists, the same for writers, the same for directors, and the same for any other game maker.
@J03yyz: Whoa, bro-dawg. Let's not jump onto the hate train just yet. Seems like the man is allowed some hindsight on his creation.
My personal favorite is Mario 2. Oh Mario games, you were the wind in my sails in the 80's and early 90's.
My personal favorite is Mario 2. Oh Mario games, you were the wind in my sails in the 80's and early 90's.
SMB3, Galaxy, World and Mario 64 are tbe best, imo.
At least these are the ones that i played like crazy. CRAZYYY
At least these are the ones that i played like crazy. CRAZYYY
@Occams electric toothbrush
i was saying more fuck him to James Cameron. but in my own hindsight that wasnt very clear or relevant. i just hope Shiggy doesnt take that route
i was saying more fuck him to James Cameron. but in my own hindsight that wasnt very clear or relevant. i just hope Shiggy doesnt take that route
I can actually understand this. Gaming has come a long way, I guess he probably now dislikes how older games are fairly unintuitive and not as easy to pick up back in the day.
Personally I'll never love Mario 3 as much as everyone else as I thought it got way too hard near the end for a Mario game. The stuff in World 8 is the kinda thing that should be in optional levels for those that can handle it. I always have to use P-Wings and Clouds to skip all of World 8 because I suck. 8(
Mario World was way more intuitive and welcoming in that respect (though my favourite Mario games are actually the 3D ones anyway).
Personally I'll never love Mario 3 as much as everyone else as I thought it got way too hard near the end for a Mario game. The stuff in World 8 is the kinda thing that should be in optional levels for those that can handle it. I always have to use P-Wings and Clouds to skip all of World 8 because I suck. 8(
Mario World was way more intuitive and welcoming in that respect (though my favourite Mario games are actually the 3D ones anyway).
I'm surprised so many people think he's crazy for saying this. People who create things are always critical of their past work. This is normal.
"There are other Mario games to be more embarrassed of."
*coughLostLevelscough*
Though to be fair, I don't know how much input he had in that game...
*coughLostLevelscough*
Though to be fair, I don't know how much input he had in that game...
He makes Wii Music, and is embarrassed of Super Mario Bros. 3? I don't know, I'm worried that Miyamoto might be losing it these days...
MailOrderClone and pedrovay are right! This is totally normal behavior for creators. He's comparing this game to all of the things he's done since then, and all of the progress he's made. Of course he's going to find the older work a little embarrassing in comparison! It doesn't mean he's any less proud of it.
@J03yyz Ah, ok. Yeah, James Cameron is a bit of a cunt. No man should have a submarine much less submarines. That's some evil scientist shit. Also, Avatar was garbage.
i don't think there's a successful gaming publisher in the world that isn't embarrassed of their old work.
@Occams
I like 2 a lot. I've been replaying it lately.
@Magnalon
But me and Occams like 2. Why is it shit?
I like 2 a lot. I've been replaying it lately.
@Magnalon
But me and Occams like 2. Why is it shit?
@jay section:
From what I understand, both Miyamoto and composer Koji Kondo were involved in Doki Doki Panic, the game that became the American Mario 2.
It's always hard to tell whether people are referring to the Japanese or American 2...
From what I understand, both Miyamoto and composer Koji Kondo were involved in Doki Doki Panic, the game that became the American Mario 2.
It's always hard to tell whether people are referring to the Japanese or American 2...
@jay section
The American version I believe he was involved in, though it was called Doki Doki Panic when he did it.
As for the topic at hand, I understand what Miyamoto means. I mean I'm sure there are things that we did when we were younger and not very wise that we look back on and think "Probably not our best work." I mean I have programs that I worked on when I first started school that I'm kind of embarrassed of because they have bugs, errors, and logic that makes no sense at all.
The American version I believe he was involved in, though it was called Doki Doki Panic when he did it.
As for the topic at hand, I understand what Miyamoto means. I mean I'm sure there are things that we did when we were younger and not very wise that we look back on and think "Probably not our best work." I mean I have programs that I worked on when I first started school that I'm kind of embarrassed of because they have bugs, errors, and logic that makes no sense at all.
Forget about SMB3 how about that abomination that dare not speak its name? - y'know the one with the 'sprites' instead of stars and that riddiculous water canon gimmick? Man, that game was bad!
I have no idea why're all hating on Sunshine. Just because it's not a PERFECT 10/10 and has some flaws I still consider it a classic from that era of consoles.
@LK404
Thank you! You beat me to the very same thought. Wii music and the Wii heart monitor WTF!!!!!!
I would also like to get into the "I loved Mario Sunshine" wagon. It wasn't the best Mario game, but I still had shit loads of fun with it.
Thank you! You beat me to the very same thought. Wii music and the Wii heart monitor WTF!!!!!!
I would also like to get into the "I loved Mario Sunshine" wagon. It wasn't the best Mario game, but I still had shit loads of fun with it.
@LK404: I bet he was like "Hell no! I did not even create that... uh... piece of shit! ....Yeah... um.... that wasn't me </sweat>".
In all fairness, Wii Music had a good premise. I just find the implementation a little too shallow. It's like one of those toy guitars where strumming the strings automatically generates notes from a predetermined track.
In all fairness, Wii Music had a good premise. I just find the implementation a little too shallow. It's like one of those toy guitars where strumming the strings automatically generates notes from a predetermined track.
Like others posted here, I'd really like to know what Miyamoto is specifically embarrassed about concerning SMB3. It'd be interesting to pick his brain.
Also, never mind the haters, Super Mario Sunshine was a solid game and a fun game.
Also, never mind the haters, Super Mario Sunshine was a solid game and a fun game.
Mario 3 is basically a masterpiece and the crowning achievement of the NES, I don't think many would argue that.
Miyamoto is just being modest
Miyamoto is just being modest
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