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Miyamoto doesn't know what Ratchet and Clank is: That's a man up on his games
10:06 AM on 12.14.2007, Jim Sterling 82 comments

Miyamoto doesn't know what Ratchet and Clank is: That's a man up on his games photo
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A while back, Insomniac made a somewhat arrogant claim by stating it was flattered that Super Mario Galaxy had Ratchet & Clank-inspired spherical worlds. It was a presumptuous statement to make at the time, and now legendary Mario creator Shigeru Miyamoto has just added both injury and insult by admitting he has no idea what Ratchet & Clank even is.

"It's not an idea we got from anywhere else," claimed Nintendo's resident pixie when asked about the spherical worlds. "I'm sorry but I have to admit that I've never seen the game in question. Is it a PC game?"

Ouch, that's cold. Still, it's nice to see that one of the most respected games designers in the world doesn't seem to follow the videogames industry. As for Insomniac, I suggest sending Miyamoto creepy emails and rooting through his garbage. That's how I used to get attention from women who didn't know me. Don't worry, at least half the cases won't make it to trial.


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Nyteshade's Avatar
Nyteshade at 12/14/2007 10:12
LMAO, Miyamoto just pimp-slapped Insomniac.
Trev's Avatar
Trev at 12/14/2007 10:16
Miyamoto: amazingly out of touch with the industry or making an even MORE smug comment by pretending not to know the game and knowing there are plenty of forth-mouthed nintendo fanboys to go along with whatever he says.

Make sure you read that in a hard-hitting journalism voice while wearing underpants on your head, just so you know how seriously it should be taken. I'm very surprised he doesn't know about the game though.
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Holyetheline at 12/14/2007 10:17
That's what they get for being arrogant. I want to see Miyamoto wear a Destructoid Shirt.
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Justice at 12/14/2007 10:18
pwned.
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njsykora at 12/14/2007 10:18
Both the idea of him genuinely not knowing Ratchet and Clank and the idea of him just delivering some smackdown to one of the PS3's good games are equally plausable.

It would be hilarious to hear Miyamoto smack talking though.
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MrSadistic at 12/14/2007 10:18
I think the only games available in Miyamoto's world are Mario games. Either that or he's senile.
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Juggernaut at 12/14/2007 10:20
Myamoto is the man

lol@Insomniac
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wonky360 at 12/14/2007 10:24
eeeeeesssaaaamariooooo
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MechaMonkey at 12/14/2007 10:25
Flawless Victory!
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MaxVest at 12/14/2007 10:26
I think he's totally telling the truth. The dude marches to the beat of his own drum, and admits that he doesn't play many video games. Plus, the whole 3-game series has only sold a little more than a million in Japan, with more than half of those from the first one. Not peanuts, but not a blockbuster either.
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loki d20 at 12/14/2007 10:27
They may be arrogant, but they are right in that they were the first. SMG is just way too hyped up, kind of like WoW. It somehow makes people forget everything else that came before.
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JamesSorensen at 12/14/2007 10:30
wow... he could have played off the denial alot better if not for the BS comment of not knowing what R&C is.. but ya R&C with spherical worlds/gravity first.. but honestly who cares.. both are good games .... and Ratchet Future was freakin sweet
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mrlokievil at 12/14/2007 10:32
Just because he might not know what it is doesn't mean that the rest of the team hadn't seen it. I could care less either way but I found the round worlds annoying and I don't enjoy playing games that are up side down.
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Y0j1mb0 at 12/14/2007 10:36
Miyamoto doesn't know Ratchet & Clank? Nintendo still can't ramp up productions of the Wii??

Shenanigans!
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Johnny Blaze at 12/14/2007 10:38
miyamoto might be like that guy that works so much at a restuarant that he doesn't eat the food. It might be the same with him and games since he does produce,director and monitor other Nintendo franchises. At his age why pay attention to some one else when you got shit of your own to go through..

Remember his reactions towards Haze and his comment about Halo..
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar
EternalDeathSlayer at 12/14/2007 10:42
That's Shiggy for you. I remember when he said "I could make a Halo, I just don't want to"

Well then fucking make it.
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angusm at 12/14/2007 10:43
Sterling you are a funny funny man.
Also, this is shocking.
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Buster at 12/14/2007 10:44
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DGX Goggles at 12/14/2007 10:56
Yeah, I think Miyamoto needs to get off his throne for a bit and look around, starting to remind me of a certain big company that was violently tossed from theirs. I have to admit though hearing him say, "Rachito ando Kurankeru, nandesuka?" would be funny.
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urbanyeti at 12/14/2007 10:59
@Rorchach

EVen though I do not know a lot about how well R&C is selling in Japan, to call it the "best competitor to his Mario platformer," is a pretty bold statement to make. You work for Insomniac too?
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burned at 12/14/2007 11:02
Because the idea of a spherical world with gravity is so original. . .
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Grapefruit Juice at 12/14/2007 11:05
the Japanese, dismissive of foreign products and ideas!?!
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Jim Sterling at 12/14/2007 11:06
This just in: Insomniac invented gravity.
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Tubatic at 12/14/2007 11:07
Oh Snap!
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Mauer at 12/14/2007 11:11
He's just mad Ratchet & Clank Future is better than Mario Galaxy. Thats right..I said it.
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Tubatic at 12/14/2007 11:12
Well, maybe this is akin to hardcore sports fans in America not knowing what a scrum, wickit or Futbol is?
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908peruvian at 12/14/2007 11:12
if it wasn't for Miyamoto most of us would not be playing games.

i dont care about Imsomniac.

i've heard great things about Mario Galaxy from people.
not much about Ratchet... or any PS3 game.
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covah at 12/14/2007 11:19
to everyone saying that Miyamoto is lying, do you know that a lot of (japanese especially) game developers don't even play games that much? Especially nintendo. I know iwata plays games ZERO percent of the time and Miyamoto barely plays games. And a Japanese person not giving a crap about a western game? THATS UNTHINKABLE!
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decoyb at 12/14/2007 11:25
Flamebait aside, I think Miamoto's either being coy or he's a little eccentric and doesn't get out too much. They're both great games but R&C is more my style of game so I like it better. Anyone who has played them and doesn't at least respect the R&C games is an idiot.

And technically the scrapped sonic extreme game was probably the 1st with speherical 3d worlds.
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iateyourhorse at 12/14/2007 11:25
Who actually buys Ratchet and Clank, honestly?
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Mauer at 12/14/2007 11:28
@iateyourhorse

Good point, rented mine from gamefly.
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cleopatrudo at 12/14/2007 11:30
who's your daddy bitch..pwned by miyamoto..lol
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Rucksack at 12/14/2007 11:37
Are we even for a moment pretending that anything in game design is a 100% original?

It's just like literature all the truly great ideas get borrowed and reworked.

Most people claim that the Mario franchise invented platforming, but I seem to remember lots of little platforms in "Joust" on the Atari 2600...
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FuriousGeorge at 12/14/2007 11:40
you know....... its not hard to make a halo...... seriously how many of you cant direct a great FPS.... I knwo I got a bunch of Ideas.... but miyamoto doesnt program or doesnt draw he just directs and comes up with concepts...

old new is old, he said this months ago when the allegations popped up even before R&C future was released.... somehow... THAT particular game is not selling out in stores.... hmmmm thats kinda like saying Halo took every other shitty gun concept from games before it like unreal or quake
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Tubatic at 12/14/2007 11:44
@Rucksack: Yeah. Its all basically pong. Game over.
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JonDarkwood at 12/14/2007 11:45
I loves me some Ratchet and Clank. That said, if Miyamoto honestly doesn't know about the Ratchet and Clank series, I wouldn't be surprised nor would I look down on him for it.

Miyamoto is in his own world working at Nintendo and he does great work that way. Why should one of the industry's top figures need to keep up with other games?

It's the other games that need to keep up with him.
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kapshhh at 12/14/2007 11:46
"Is it a PC game?" Ouch.
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h3lios at 12/14/2007 11:56
Oh sure, the best designer in the business is unaware of his competition?

Excuse me while i barf 3 $ bills and walk on water.
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0chan at 12/14/2007 12:16
i never heard of ratchet&clank before it came out for the ps3
looks kinda corny
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Spartacus at 12/14/2007 12:19
I can't decide if this makes Miyamoto amazing or out of touch.
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StriderS at 12/14/2007 12:43
Miyamoto ftw

He's too hardcore for Ratchet and Clank, guys. He's all about the Wii Fit.
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Novakaine at 12/14/2007 12:56
Sure didn't take long for all the Mario/Nintendo trolls to come out of the woodwork, did it?
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thisissami at 12/14/2007 12:56
somehow i think that miyamoto was joking there... or at least lying... ratchet and clank seems to be a pretty big game in japan, and miyamoto seems to love platformers, and the ratchet and clanks (like the mario titles) are some of the best...
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Crunshii at 12/14/2007 13:01
Well 2 things, One Miyamoto is right, he doesnt play games cept the ones he tests of his own games. But he could be lying if he said he never saw it. R&C advertising is all over the world, but like me, I never played it :(

2. People are taking this out of context... SMG has been in the works since when... since before the Wii was released. R&C same thing, both of them tried new ideas on their new game in new system.

They are both original. Abut the gravity IP? shit I remember a NES MCDONALD game that had that... so give props to them, a 1986 game....

so Jim: McDonald invented gravity.
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kobiyashi at 12/14/2007 13:04
They've had this idea since the old Mario 128 demo, and definitely before that too. Why does the idea have to come from R&C?
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hoydensnare at 12/14/2007 13:11
He so funny.
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The-Excel at 12/14/2007 13:22
Somehow I can't find it in me to believe stories like this, even if they do put Nintendo on higher ground.
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ArrestedDeveloper at 12/14/2007 13:37
lulz. It's like a parent reprimanding a small child.
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