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Miyamoto claims the GameCube made him 'sad' photo

If there's one thing I sense from Nintendo this generation, it's that they love to sit back and preen themselves, pretending the Wii wasn't an accidental success story, that they planned it all along, and now they're better than everyone else in the world. Don't get me wrong, Nintendo's marketing since the Wii caught on has been amazing, but statements like Miyamoto's latest just drip in self-satisfied smugness.

"The more we competed with new companies entering the market, the more we started acting similar to them," claims Miyamoto, probably wanking himself off and sighing with utter self-love as he spoke. "But is being number one in that competition the same as being number one with the general public? That's the question we had.

"Entertainment is something that you have to look at the world with a very wide eye as you create it. I always thought that, but there were a few years where I was unable to get off other people's trends. It was a dilemma in my mind."

Miyamoto claims he's been miserable since the N64 era, which I personally think is complete bollocks and yet another slap in the face to long-time Nintendo fans. Pretending that you never wanted to appeal to the gamers that kept you afloat during the bad years is a lovely attitude, right?

I don't care that Nintendo is chasing a new type of consumer now, they're a business and this is where the profit lies. However, this ludicrous "we're better than you people and we exist on a higher plane now" attitude is pretty effing disgusting. Crap like Wii Play and Wii Music might sell a lot of copies to idiots, but let's not pretend we're serving some higher purpose by creating that toss.








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eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 08:07
eternalplayer2345
Miserable since the n64? Making OOT and mario 64 must have been so depressing.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 08:10
Chronic Logic
The guy is inhumanely rich, why the hell is he sad? So his little projec the Gamecube turned out suckish, did he ever cry over the Virtual Boy?
Just Another Juke's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 08:12
Just Another Juke
stop bitching and make great games i mean seriously i say forget the past and make great games in the future =D
zombiekiller13's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 08:13
zombiekiller13
All I have to say is that I still play Gamecube games, and haven't touched any of my Wii games for months now. In fact, the last game I bought for myself was Mario Kart when it was released. Animal Crossing was purchased as a game for me and my son, and Wii Music was purchased solely for my son. Popped in AC, did jobs for Nook, and stopped playing.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 08:17
Tubatic
Enh, I think this speaks to the general shift in "hardcore" gaming from dudes busting their ass for a high score in Galaga to dudes sitting online in multiplayer trying to bust other player's heads. The NES era was as not-hardcore as they come, considering the content. Thinking back to items like Anticipation and the Power Pad release werent' about being badass, so much as basically fun.

Sega, of course, excelled at bringing the bad ass, and had little conflicting thought about it.

I think Miyamoto's a toymaker that watched rag dollies become blowup dolls and lamented the need to respond to that paradigm shift. Now, he doesn't have to, and he's back to making pickup and play, polished but uncomplicated games.

But you know, have a go at his expense. Whatev.
sickNasty's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 08:39
sickNasty
HERE HERE Jim.
TorpedoTed's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 08:52
TorpedoTed
each to their own...
Drack48's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 08:55
Drack48
It's so easy to think of these companys with nostolgia and love when they are down and as soon as any of the big three gets on top, they become arrogant as all hell.
Ikey Heyman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:07
Ikey Heyman
in all my short life I would have never figured I would grow to resent Nintendo. but alas, I'm no longer a fan. :[ their policies, attitude, and targeted market lately are all just turning me away. which sucks because I grew up on their consoles.

o how the mighty have fallen, you could say.
Chicken008's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:15
Chicken008
Wow, N64 and Gamecube were the greatest consoles for their time, I think..
yutt's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:40
yutt
Miyamoto has always spoken like this about anything he has worked on. And with good reason, he is one of the founders of the industry and nearly everything he does is both unique and amazingly successful.

Seriously, the next fucking update of Elephant needs to include an "ignore all commentary by Jim Sterling" option for users.
gamesronlygames's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:47
gamesronlygames
The more we competed with new companies entering the market, the more we started acting similar to them," claims Miyamoto, probably wanking himself off and sighing with utter self-love as he spoke. "But is being number one in that competition the same as being number one with the general public? That's the question we had.

"Entertainment is something that you have to look at the world with a very wide eye as you create it. I always thought that, but there were a few years where I was unable to get off other people's trends. It was a dilemma in my mind."

Jim I think you are taking it one possible way. But I think his statements are not saying all the GC and 64 games sucked but rather he got caught up in the competition in the market rather than focusing on innovation in gaming. If you read several of his statements over the last few years these ideas and concepts he has made, novelty, ingenuity, and creative gaming for the masses has long been his impetus all the way back to Mario. Nowhere in his statements is he saying everything he did before the wii sucked, just that as he looked back he can see he was sidetracked from his modus operandi and was trying to make his games match up and compete with others. He is Miyamoto, and although a human and susceptible to the lures of capitalistic greed and losing ones focus, his one focus has always been innovation and reaching the masses not keeping up with the Jones'. Sure the innovation of Mario and other past acheivements are by and large more appreciated by me than the majority of wii nonsense but I think we should not be so quick to give up on miyamoto.
BlackFreefall's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:52
BlackFreefall
Nintendo is being arrogant? Lol... They need to take a trip in Sony memory lane.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:56
SephirothX
Incoming: Jonathan Holmes defending Nintendo in 3....2....1....
Tony Ponce's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:57
Tony Ponce
He was sad because they lost a bunch of people during the N64 era and practically no one bought the GameCube. And that happened because they played the same ballgame as the other console makers. Don't try to read more into it than that.
atastysammich's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:57
atastysammich
Love the image.

Also, what a coincidence! The Wii makes me sad! We should get together for lunch sometime, Miyamoto. Introduce me to that babe Perrin Kaplan if she doesn't have anything going on.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:59
SephirothX
@megaStryke
They didnt try to play the same ballgame as the others. They simply tried playing it the wrong way by sticking to cartridges and then going with goofy little mini discs that make RE4 a 2-disc title. That's been Nintendo's signature ever since the end of the SNES, we're going to try to compete but do one common thing differently just so we can say "we're different".
darksydex3226's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:00
darksydex3226
He should be sad about a lot of other things, like how many real gamers out there feel about him and his new appeal to casual people who play video games a little bit (refuse to use the word 'gamer').
Timtoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:08
Timtoid
I suppose Miyamoto is like that kid who becomes cool because he played guitar really well at the school talent show, and looks at his friends in the past, and said "yeah... I'm too cool for you." Douchebag.

Gabe Newell is now better than you.
peachboy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:12
peachboy
oh dear...

nice post jim
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:14
Shin Oni
Is Miyamoto saying he's sold out to the casual gamers?

personally I believe this bull is bull. If anyone should be sad, it should be us for Nintendo being 1 step behind in every generation. This also includes the Wii. I get the "casual love" in a business standpoint. But with the real gamers, the wii is pretty much dead...until something really good hits.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:30
Jim Sterling
Yutt is hilarious. He constantly whines that he needs a special bit of Dtoid software in order to ignore me, seemingly unable to do it of his own accord.
Tony Ponce's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:50
Tony Ponce
@SephirothX

The cartridges I can give you, but the GameCube's failures in no way had anything to do with mini-discs. Seriously, c'mon. DVD capacity certainly hasn't hurt the 360's chances in the face of the PS3's Blu-ray capactiy.
kavorka's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:52
kavorka
"Pretending that you never wanted to appeal to the gamers that kept you afloat during the bad years is a lovely attitude, right?"

This has been my problem with Nintendo since Wii started going 'casual', as it were. They're so quick to write off the loyal buyers who kept them in business during their rougher years. I hope that once their fad system wears off, and the public moves on to something else (as it inevitably does), they come crawling back. That's when I'll tell them I'm taking the dog and the car and moving to Bermuda.
Tony Ponce's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:07
Tony Ponce
Stop reading so much into a damn statement. Jesus. Miyamoto isn't giving anyone the finger.
BrickRoadDX's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:31
BrickRoadDX
But pikmin way a way better innovation than Wii Music. (not bigger, BETTER). More like that please Miyamoto.
Timstuff's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:44
Timstuff
I used to be pretty much the most hardcore Nintendo fanboy on the planet. I defended them with a nearly religious zeal back in the SNES and N64 days against the foes of Sega and Sony, and even for a good chunk of the Gamecube's lifespan. Unfortunately though, I eventually got so frustrated with Nintendo giving me gimpy 3rd party ports that had no online play, that I bought a PS2. I still considered myself to be mostly a Nintendo fan, but now I liked Sony too. But then, I saw the Wii, and I knew instantly that Nintendo was no longer interested in serving me as a customer. They were more interested in my little cousins and even my GRANDPARENTS than they were in ME, the hardcore gamer who stuck with them right from the start. I don't really see it as my having left my Nintendo fandom-- rather, Nintendo abandoned me.
silvain's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:46
silvain
Geez, you people are as annoying as listening to Fox News talk about Obama.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 12:24
Monodi
Well if this is true, Shiggy must stay sad more often because the Nintendo64 and the GameCube kicked ass
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 12:33
Holyetheline
Oh fuck him. N64 was the best!
Zaroturasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 13:06
Zaroturasto
Too bad Miyamoto's ass is to filled up with money that he fail to see that wii games are just as much games as someone trowing shit on a painting and calling it art.
necrozen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 14:21
necrozen
I used to be a nintendo fan. A HUGE NINTENDO FAN. I loved the gamecube and the n64. I liked the cube controller, the games. In fact, I still own more cube games than I do Wii games.

I think it all started with the way they handled the Nintendo message board. Then the marketing changed, and the image. And finally the games. It was like having a best friend for years and then suddenly they get popular and start ignoring you, slow at first, and then escalating. Sure they might throw you a bone here and again, but it is obvious things aren't the way they used to be, and that is cool. They can dilute themselves and go after the big bucks, I'm fine with that, more power to them. During the days of the cube, they would have never made a game like Wii music, I guarantee you that.

I have a new friend named PS3 and we get along great. Not to mention that since I ignored the PS2 (because I was a nintendo loyalist) I am now discovering the galaxy of games it had to offer! Thank you sony and thank you goozex.
McKillagan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 15:31
McKillagan
It is rather disrespectful they way they toss out all the fans.
Scammeleon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 15:39
Scammeleon
If the gamecube era was so bad, what's with the whole new play control crap?
flabzilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 21:51
flabzilla
The Gamecube and N64 where good machines but it was the the PS1, PS2 and even the Xbox macking waves in the industry.
Everyone I knew never really talked about about Nintendo consoles after the SNES, well N64 had it's few games like GoldenEye but the vast majrity of the media concntrated on PS1 and then PS2 because it was providing the better games.
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 01:16
Brian Szabelski
The Gamecube was bad because you guys failed to do anything about it until it was too late.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 07:29
Aaron Mxy Yost
You got this impression from the original article? Really?
Greylocke's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 08:01
Greylocke
"pretending the Wii wasn't an accidental success story, that they planned it all along"

Heck, Sony plans that the PSP or the PS3 is a success even if it may not be. How long has Nintendo been preaching about wanting to make games that will get everyone playing. How long has Nintendo been saying that they wanted to grab the moms and grandmothers who don't play, or the dads that don't play games, broaden the market. Have they done that? Pretty much. So yes, they have planned it. Whether it sucks or not is a completely different story.
Breedlove's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 09:43
Breedlove
I completely disagree with the knee jerk reaction, Jim. The man was simply saying that he disagreed with the arms race of each console cycle and was hoping for more. I think you are reading a little too much into it. Looking back, I was sad for the Gamecube too, it did little to move gaming forward compared to its predecessor or its peers that generation. In that way, Miyamoto is completely right.

I also enjoy all the folks that continue to bitch about the Wii and Nintendo's 'new direction' and clamor for new core games yet ignore titles like Madworld, Mushroom Men and No More Heroes. Then they all have the audacity to wonder why publishers release less core games on the Wii.

(slow clap)
killatia's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/15/2009 20:13
killatia
Litte late on this one but does it exactly say that Miyamoto was "sad"? Jim, you make great and funny articles I'll give you that but i think you took this way out of contexts.
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/18/2009 00:05
Dv8thwonder
I think those reading way to much into Miyamoto's above statements need to reevaluate their positions as gamers.
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