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It's been a particularly flavorful week of corporate trash talk this week, with Microsoft and Sony each getting their digs in. Now Microsoft has decided to take a steaming dump over Blu-ray, by way of UK boss Stephen McGill. What is this, 2007?

"I think people may have spoken about [Xbox's lack of a Blu-ray drive] originally, but that's long gone," says McGill. "I think people now recognize what a smart decision it was to keep the pricing low, and actually Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format. People have moved through from DVDs to digital downloads and digital streaming, so we offer full HD 1080p Blu-ray quality streaming instantly, no download, no delay. So, who needs Blu-ray?"

Blu-ray has been one of Sony's more successful format deviations, and has at least managed to stick around for the past few years. Given this industry's obsession with graphics and size, I can't see Blu-ray dying quite as easily as McGill thinks. 

What do you reckon. Will Microsoft have to embrace Blu-ray, or is McGill right in thinking nobody needs it?

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Mentok the Mindtaker's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:22
Mentok the Mindtaker
People who want really nice high def movies, and lots of content in there videogames, that's who.
Startyde's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:24
Startyde
Clear McGill hasn't had a chance to play 360's port of FFXIII.
XxSteviexX's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:26
XxSteviexX
My response: O rly?
DAVYDOCK's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:26
DAVYDOCK
He knows what he's talkin about, He's Microsoft! ( only joking )

Wouldnt mind a wee blu-ray drive for the xbox just to get rid of juddery cutscenes.
llort het's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:27
llort het
My friend has a High def tv, and I honestly don't see much of a difference, unless I'm three inches away from the screen. I'm not interested in blu-ray, nor am I interested in digital downloads. I'll stick with DVDs thank you very much.
jacenkilcap's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:29
jacenkilcap
Really, Microsoft? Just because your HD-DVD stint didn't work out doesn't mean you can start start bad mouthing my Blu-ray. Digital distribution is nice, but nothing will replace holding a movie case in my hands.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:30
Xzyliac
Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format.

Moron.

/thread
bulleteddy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:30
bulleteddy
They'd only have a valid argument if their systems would stop breaking down. Meaning, if I have all of my purchased HD Movies on my 360 and it RRODs or RDODs, I'm screwed. Until they allow you to transfer these items to a storage device that is future proof, this argument holds no water. But MS and Sony are so worried about unlawful transfer of content, that they put in safeguards to prevent even lawful back ups or property relocation. I mean, I bought 2 movies on PSN and I can't even play them on my other PS3 in another room even though they are both registered to my PSN ID. How retarded is that?

When it comes to RENTAL, Streaming is DEFINITELY the future, but for owning, its still all about Blu-ray.
Strandli's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:30
Strandli
Not everybody has an internet connection fast enough to support instant 1080p streaming, and there's the people who like to physically own stuff they buy. I am a case of both, and I love my BluRays.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:32
pedrovay2003
Now we need LEGITIMATE questions asked, like who needs to flail like an idiot without a controller to play games. I'd love to hear an answer to those more challenging questions.

Then again, it's not like Sony's been particularly smart this week, either.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:32
Aurain
@Xzyliac

To be fair, he's right.
It's just that it's going to be atleast 10 years and I imagine it'll still be going in 20.

This is the worst smack talk of the bunch so far too, Microsoft, try harder.
Nic128's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:34
Nic128
I like Blu-rays.
Enzi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:35
Enzi
"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981

Yeah, sure. :)
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:36
Xzyliac
@Typhonic
Yup, that pretty much sums it up. You don't watch news or read newspapers do you? You cut out the boring jazz, find the thing that'll make people go "Z0MG" (for better or worse) and ta-da! News!

It's been like that here in America since the Spanish-American war my dear. Damn Yanks just eat it up too.
DAVYDOCK's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:36
DAVYDOCK
I think maybe its because HOT DOG! JUMP-ING FROG! AALBERQUERQUE!!
klops's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:37
klops
Who needs hard drives, righto?
kapshhh's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:37
kapshhh
This kind of talk is honestly damn stupid. The whole process of digital distribution is all fine and good but there always needs to be a DVD/Blu/Anything solid counterpart. Dude needs to realize that gaming is a global thing. Correct me if I'm wrong but the process of streaming still relies on your net connection right? That pretty much alienates a lot of people.
jaxx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:37
jaxx
yeah, sounds more like the guy is being defensive with his talk. BluRay is the way to go as far as owning stuff. Although I will say, having netflix has actually stopped me a few times from buying movies. I have it in my instant que, it's like it's on my virtual shelf. I'm sure blu-ray won't have as big of a run as dvd, but it's still very relevant, until you can pay for a service like netflix and have everything accessable. Then the digital age will take over. This goes for games too. If things work out like the psp-go, people will prefer to control their media with a hardcopy
absentblue's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:38
absentblue
We could live without Blu-Ray movies, but given the capacity of the disc it only seems right to ship games in the next generation on a larger capacity media like Blu-Ray.
Nogtank's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:39
Nogtank
@xzyliac

Sure, because tabloid/sensationalist journalism isn't a plague in any _other_ country, right? (Looking at you, UK.)

Anyway, I'm not sure why this is a story. Random suit opens their mouth about things they don't know about? This never happens. Ever. Certainly not a hundred times a week.

Get over it, MS. HDDVD lost, BluRay won. Embrace it.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:40
Xzyliac
@Aurain
True but I don't consider a 10 year life cycle as being "passed over".
krokounleashed's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:41
krokounleashed
I've got a 360 and a bluray-player and i'm buying blurays. So what's the matter?
wardprod's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:43
wardprod
2Mb/s internet connection used for streaming 20GBs of data

VS

1 full Blu-ray disc wich can be read in ~max 10-15 minutes?

Yeah, Blu-ray is probably a useless inventment...

ps: disc swapping.
amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:43
amtalx
Blu-ray is a wash this generation since there aren't enough adopters to make it necessary. Next generation may be a different story. Consumers have generally come to expect game consoles to double as movie players.

However, Nintendo has never supported movie playback with its disc based systems and the Wii isn't exactly struggling. It's anyone's game.
DAVYDOCK's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:43
DAVYDOCK
I dont know what it is but i feel a certain sense of satisfaction when i open a case and there's multiple discs. Im not just saying that being an xbox owner i believe blu ray is the way forward.
weasl's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:44
weasl
To be honest the main reason my 360 become a secondary system to my PS3 was the lack of blu-ray and the death of hddvd. Maybe i'm just lazy but i'd rather not have to switch inputs between systems when I can watch blu-ray and get better dvd upscaling on ps3.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:45
pokota
@Typhonic
Sterling is a gaming-focused online tabloid writer, it's true. He is british, after all. I've mostly gotten used to it, though, and rarely comment on it anymore.

As far as the article, I like Blu-ray mainly because of the storage capacity advantage. Games are only going to get bigger.
shinryu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:48
shinryu
fit God of War III on a DVD, then we can talk.
kainsec's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:48
kainsec
One of my main complaints about the 360 is the lack of blue ray player. Its very noticeable now that games are taking up multiple 360 discs. Its annoying but something I can live with since I have a PS3
DtoidBadMrK's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:49
DtoidBadMrK
Wow, what a fucking tool. Sure, digital downloads are definitely something that's going to grow in the future of movies, but for GAMING, Blu-ray might have been a better choice. People want physical media for games. Movies aren't that important since you can deliver a streaming 1080p movie.

I will say though that a lot of the required installs on the PS3 are because the Blu-ray drive is way slower than a DVD drive. Load times would be ridiculous without it for certain games.
Frigidevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:52
Frigidevil
Fail Microsoft. I have two friends who bought PS3s BECAUSE they are Blu-ray players, and relatively cheap ones at that.
Mindkiller89's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:54
Mindkiller89
The way I see it, there's always going to be a significant lag between the average user's broadband speed and the size of a normal video game.
I can't ever see Blu-Ray becoming redundant in the near future, especially with the larger ones coming out.

MS would be dumb to do away with physical storage altogether in the next generation.
DrRockso87's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:54
DrRockso87
Microsoft really should've considered blu-ray, or at least an upgrade from DVD. The quality really is better for many movies on blu-ray (albeit to a certain extent) and the features are better too (bringing up your entire menu without pausing the movie is awesome).

Also, the extra space on a blu-ray disc (25gb - 50gb) compared to a DVD (8gb - 16gb) is well worth the price. I still can't believe that some 360 games require 3 - 4 DVDs to play. Seriously, is this 1999?

Microsoft is still a great company and I really like the Xbox 360 but I think they released a system lacking in many features that they're now just making up for (e.g. built-in Wi-fi). Hopefully next generation on the Xbox 720 (or whatever it's called) they use a different format other than just standard DVD. It's becoming more and more outdated (at least in the video game industry) every day.
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:58
Tarvu
Where the fuck is SexualChocolate? I am disappoint.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 08:59
The Silent Protagonist
Blu Ray is just another game format to me and poorly utilized at that. Blu Ray has not brought us bigger or longer games no matter how much people insist that what the storage capacity is for.

Games are shorter, content is cut. The HD generation has done nothing but nickel-and-dime gamers on content. And part of problem is actually Sony. See, it turns out the storage goes to waste on "lossless" audio and video, shit that could be compressed to the point where loss on quality was hardly noticeable.

I'm a bit of an audio fetisist, I know where that fine line is. It takes a lot of compression for me to start noticing it and that's only if I'm trying. On Blu Ray, its all left uncompressed consuming more space than it needs to. And its the same for video and other assets, some of which probably could be compressed, but just aren't.

As far as movies go, I couldn't give a damn about Blu Ray, not even to own. Netflix does the job just fine and takes up no shelf space.
Ehkard's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:01
Ehkard
jim is a journalistic orgasm, no lie.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:02
Aurain
You do realise that Blu-ray is only used poorly beccause cross-platform games require the same content in general right TSP?

You could say that the reason Blu-ray is being poorly used is because Microsoft have no equivalent in their console.
LittleBigD's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:05
LittleBigD
If Blueray was dropped tomorrow Sony would still have a leg up on Microsoft with digital distribution. I can buy a 1TB hard drive for my PS3 (which I will need to contain games like GOW3 and UC2) at Future Shop for $89.99. That's less than a 60GB 360 branded drive.
Jnr Johnson's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:05
Jnr Johnson
I Wish Xbox would Stop Being So Stubborn And Use Blu-Ray :/ I Have a Blu-Ray PLayer On My Laptop...And I Played Avatar on Blu-ray and it looked AMAZING :P on Dvd it looked kinda foggy compared to blu-ray :3 im just saying..
klyde's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:08
klyde
I care about bluray because I a) have a hi def tv and b) love movies(and games). Why would I not want blu ray? Also it has made DVDs even more cheaper than before .. Soo blu ray is glorious imo
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:09
Xzyliac
@Nogtank
Did I say it isn't in any other country? Sensationalist has been around since the Serpent told Eve that God was trying to be a dick about the Forbidden Fruit. In fact the whole book that story is taken out of is sensationalist.

I was just making a point. No need to be so defensive.
D00mM4r1n3's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:13
D00mM4r1n3
PS3 has Blue-ray and yet the games still look worse than their 360 counterparts. Microsoft needs to take things a step further and make games available through Games On Demand day-and-date with their disc release. I would rather buy everything digitally.
Nogtank's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:15
Nogtank
@Xzyliac

Less being defensive and more of a gentle poke, really. Journalism as a whole is a lost art, and I imagine that's true no matter what country one happens to be in.
GundamJehutyKai's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:16
GundamJehutyKai
"so we offer full HD 1080p Blu-ray quality streaming instantly"

The man has never watched a Blu ray movie in his life!! No matter what the numbers they put next to the movie titles, a streaming movie in high def will never look as good as one being played from a disk! There's a difference between PR hyperbole and just plain lies.
And with the games, the developers will want more and more space. Digital downloads still haven't caught on yet and I doubt people will be happy to sit and wait while their 10GB download finished so they can play GTA 5000.
swarkles's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:18
swarkles
Well thanks to Blu-ray I don't need 4 discs to play Final Fantasy XIII
indigit4l's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:18
indigit4l
MORON
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:19
Xzyliac
@Nogtank
True.

The way I see it every story is just a gateway to go learn more. But you should never take the story for full face value.

It'd be nice though. Investigative journalism in particular both in gaming and in general is just totally dead. It makes me sad.
DAVYDOCK's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:19
DAVYDOCK
@Xzyliac

....DO YOU COME FROM A LAND DOWN UNDER?
xenon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:21
xenon
the next MS console will have a Blu-Ray player, that's for sure. They're talking bullshit, and they know. DVD9 is barely enough now and games won't get smaller next-gen.
DAVYDOCK's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2010 09:24
DAVYDOCK
@Xzyliac

....DO YOU COME FROM A LAND DOWN UNDER?
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