They should release MSN 2009 already, the beta is so awesome.

Surface better come faster.
I'm sick of all these archaic non touch screen tables.

Wow Brad, didn't think you'd stoop to flamebaiting.

Windows is icky?

Yeah, tell that to the 100s of millions of Windows users.

I'll tell the 25 mac users OS X is icky.

Also Brad, hey hey guess what!

My PC can play steam and PC Games and yours can't! Also I have more programs and my OS isn't a firmware upgrade after another!

The Xbox divisions wasen't effected, damn :(

As for people bitching about the whole Mac/PC argument, The only people I have ever seen hate on the Mac OS are people to poor to afford the 20% markup on the products, or to stupid to install OSX86.

I, for one, am to poor to afford genuine Mac hardware, but I am smart enough to install OSX86, the system is better*, fact it and move on.

*Not for gaming, but thats starting to change with all those unofficial cider ports running around, hardware still sucks because it can't be upgraded, but then I guess you have to be smart enough to install OSX86

This economy must be bad. LividChihuahua is too poor to afford the extra "O's." :/

I donmt see any report of this on reuters.

I was expecting more flaming, damn :(

Yes it is a fact macs are better, if you don't believe me just listed to someone who has switched or who uses one at work (like faultymoose) never seen anyone complain about a mac unless they are a fanboy or unwilling to learn anything new (PC users who complain that you can't tweak the system or fix problems, you can do both, and the learning curve is a lot lower than on the PC, and I've learned both, along with linus which is above both)

And you not paying twice the price, there a good 20-30% more but not near twice the price so you can shove that figure back up your ass where you got it from. And while some mac users buy the hardware because it's "cool" those are the minority, and frankly if there stupid enough to but a computer because of how it looks rather than how it performs (and that's both software and hardware quality, more than base specs) then they deserve to be in debt because there obviously retarded.

And actually if your going top and mac they can be upgraded, but then again there overpriced, the average mac isn't as overpriced as the Mac Pro, and even that's not twice the price, after all most PC's you buy don't have dual QuadCore processors.

Saying your peers buy apple's with there parents money just proves that there too poor to buy one them self and to stupid to install OSX86 on something far cheaper, thanks for proving me right.

I am disappointed, I was hoping for a good laugh, there's not as much mac hate as there used to be :(

Purposely misunderstanding someone to flame bait is a waste of your time, friend.

@dprime
Well what else should i do, I am waiting for what may very well me the slowest download ever :(
$aaronf
Your pretty much right, if they had used a mac (I mean used not tried to play games on) they'd know that there is plenty of software and we have 4 mouse buttons now :P And we can play games (Starcraft, Doom... There's some great emulation... umm... oh yeah EA is using cider so we get a lot of that stuff now... and... we just got COD4... good thing I own a console :P )

What other uses are there besides games?

You don't buy a Mac to play games, it's as simple as that. Macs are exceptional at their niche, which is predominantly design work, with the software usually running more efficiently, and far more stable than on a PC. Like I said before, I own a PC at home so I can play games and enjoy a significantly larger software market, but when it comes to working, I much prefer to do it on a Mac. Also, OSX is a dream to use, imo, and I can't recall EVER having to screw with drivers or under-the-hood stuff like the registry or services.msc like I have to do regularly in Windows. I often wonder how non-computer-literate people survive Windows, tbh ><

it was obivious ... msn group close next month

I dont get it, I dont see this story anywhere else.

Now why this has started to be a mac vs. PC. i dont have anything against mac´s, they are overpriced but thats ok if you want, I would use the money to enjoy some gaming on a PC.
Also at a corporate point of view, they are a nightmare for IT and security.

Seeing "mac" and "nightmare for security" in the same sentence makes me laugh. Seriously, go spec a PC laptop like the Macbook or MacBook Pro, and make sure you get all the same features, specs, and software. Not more expensive at all really, considering there are features on your mac you don't get anywhere else. I was a windows user for years and years before I got my first mac. I was entirely self supporting, and was scornful of macs because of the closed hardware loop. Well, that closed hardware loop is the secret to stability and security. Just like consoles, you know an app for your mac will work without registry fiddling bullshit or rolling back drivers until the display stops flickering for some odd reason. Buy a mac if you want your machine to work. Buy a PC if you want to work on your machine.

@Rational Animal

Good call on the windows vs. mac debate. I for one enjoy what they both offer, Mac has an interesting visual flair and ease of use, while Windows has a great software support and, of course, lots of gaming.

See, why can't we enjoy them both?