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Microsoft thinks Sony is a dirty liar, questions PSN numbers photo

Recently, Sony proudly boasted that the PlayStation Network had surpassed 20 million members, putting its numbers ahead of Xbox Live by a cool 3 million. Well, it's been a while since we had the two companies tugging each others' hair and giving out dead legs in the schoolyard, so naturally a Microsoft spokesman came out to question the numbers and accuse Sony of filthy, rotten lies.

"When we talk about our numbers we feel they're active users who are actively engaged in all the forms of entertainment we offer on Xbox 360," explains MS UK's Stephen McGill. "I think if you look at the comments made on the forums, or the comments made by analysts at Screen Digest then there's questions over, well what does Sony's numbers really mean? Are they duplicates? I think there's a lot of questions there.

"All I'm really worried about is, I know I'm the largest online video on demand service in the UK, we are worldwide, we've got a great online service the others can't come close to. They're not right now. When you think of our heritage as a company Microsoft has proven we are probably the only company in the world that can offer great online experiences for millions and millions and millions of people. And that's what we do every day with Xbox LIVE.

"Sony do what Sony want to do and if they think that's right for their business to say those kind of numbers then they can do and will do whatever they want to do. Do I believe them? No."

In other news, Microsoft knows Sony's dad, and is going to tell him that the publisher has been scrumping apples. We have extended the child metaphor in a biting satire of the infantile behavior of multimillion dollar companies, a babyishness which we do, admittedly, perpetuate by publicizing it.


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JustLikeBuck's Avatar
JustLikeBuck at 03/09/2009 08:26
"When we talk about our numbers we feel they're active users who are actively engaged in all the forms of entertainment we offer on Xbox 360"

Oh you're only counting those that do everything the 360 offers... Not just those who Game, or DL Movies... oh wait.

Sony counts PSP, PS3 users, MS would do the same had they a portable... I'm sure they're not keep subtracting from the number everytime they get a 360 returned.

And both conveniently ignore Nintendo getting fat on families.
Rosseh's Avatar
Rosseh at 03/09/2009 08:30
Next they'll be making up games.
"My console has Metal Gear Solid 4"
"Yeh, well MY console has Metal Gear Solid 10! Hyper edition! I got it off my uncle's mate who works at Capcom!"
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linuxguy at 03/09/2009 08:31
of course there are multiple accounts the thing is free.
also if sony says there are 20 millions accounts how is that a lie? It's not like they are saying they have 20 million unique members.
also psn is also for psp so maybe that's another reason why numbers are so high
Pilliy's Avatar
Pilliy at 03/09/2009 08:35
They may very well have 20 million unique. Can't you register many PSN accounts for each sub account on the console?
BlackFreefall's Avatar
BlackFreefall at 03/09/2009 08:40
Hey Microsoft and Sony

Could you spend some free time on developing more games. The last time I check, Nintendo is owning your asses.
dip's Avatar
dip at 03/09/2009 08:49
BLAH BLAH BLAH PR SPEAK

who gives a fuck
Drach's Avatar
Drach at 03/09/2009 09:05
lol, Agreed, Jim. It does seem like they're primary school kids arguing over who can pee the furthest.

Microsoft wants you to think they have a ton of members... are these all PAYING customers? Or customers like me who refuse to give them $50 a year to play with my friends? I can't question the PSN numbers.. because they can't be split into "paying" and "nonpaying" members. Subscribe nowto Xbox LIVE! Get banned for being gay!

The MS guy talks in circles... so does the PSN guy...

Yeah.. make some games you fucking noobs.
Hitogoroshi's Avatar
Hitogoroshi at 03/09/2009 09:08
XBL costs money. PSN does not. Pretty simple if you ask me Microsoft.
orao's Avatar
orao at 03/09/2009 09:16
Damnit Destructoid now I've had to adblock your background. Sneaky people.
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orao at 03/09/2009 09:16
Damnit Destructoid now I've had to adblock your background. Sneaky people.
Nogarda's Avatar
Nogarda at 03/09/2009 09:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC_rrr5WrVE

^ says it all and a bit extra.
farlander's Avatar
farlander at 03/09/2009 09:29
I think you need not forget that some percent of Microsoft's numbers are actually _paying_ users, whereas PSN is all free, so naturally, people would create multiple accounts on PSN. Hell, I myself have 4 different accounts on PSN (1 - Japanese, 1 - European and 2 - North American). And I know that's the case for many others, so here you have it. Naturally, PSN numbers are not unique users, and you have to divide that number by at least 2.
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wastedyears at 03/09/2009 09:40
So you have made four psn accounts. I have made one, and I have made six xbox live accounts on my 360, and two more on the xbox. What does that mean? Who f*ckin' cares.
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CelicaCrazed at 03/09/2009 09:46
GO FOR THE THROAT!!!1!1!
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Ronsauce at 03/09/2009 09:49
@ wastedyears: Uhh...what farlander said is probably more true for a larger number of people than what you said (six Live accounts....really?...really?)
farlander's Avatar
farlander at 03/09/2009 09:52
All I'm saying is it's a lot easier to create multiple accounts on PSN, and there's a reason to do that (creating accounts in different regions to get access to exclusive content). With XBL - sure, you can have multiple accounts, but why and how many people have them? That's the question.

But in any event, it's all irrelevant, I agree. What matters is how many consoles has each of them sold. And PS3 is waaaaay behind MS in this regard, and that ain't going to change any time soon, the way things are going so far. Sony it making one stupid thing after another, wasting their resources on stuff nobody cares about, while completely neglecting the things that most gamers want. No need to look further than the Home.
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pascuz46 at 03/09/2009 09:58
I don't give a fuck how many PSN accounts (or Live accounts, if I had a 360) there are. All I'm concerned about is that there are people online with I want to play online.
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Rosseh at 03/09/2009 10:01
Well I know quite a few people have multiple live accounts. Sure, everyone has their main one. But I have a japanese one, along with two more for the free gold trial so that I could download demo's/play online for a while. So I have 4 accounts. I'd say the main reason for multiple accounts is the free gold trial but how many free trials do you get?
Qraze's Avatar
Qraze at 03/09/2009 10:06
is microsoft grasping at straws or cocks?
Swizzler121's Avatar
Swizzler121 at 03/09/2009 10:07
I believe it. What they don't tell you is you don't need a PlayStation 3 to get a PSN ID. Its pretty useless without one, but it helps me enter PlayStation contests.
Chronic Logic's Avatar
Chronic Logic at 03/09/2009 10:31
Actually, I'd like to know how many PSN or Live accounts is active per country. That should prove to be some interesting data.
kavorka's Avatar
kavorka at 03/09/2009 10:38
I see your shwartz is almost as long as mine.
Primo's Avatar
Primo at 03/09/2009 11:28
@kavorka

lol I watched that movie on Saturday. good stuff.
Zantetsuken's Avatar
Zantetsuken at 03/09/2009 11:51
Dear Microsoft and Sony.

Please stop encouraging your fanboys, they are as bad enough as it is without your immature dick waving competitions.

Perhaps you channel your rage into making more and better games for your respective consoles.

ugh
Holyetheline's Avatar
Holyetheline at 03/09/2009 11:54
MS needs to invest in a hand-held to combat those numbers...
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JiR INC at 03/09/2009 12:51
this will continue to go till the end of time and to be honest its a waste of space all xbox and sony care about now is cash and who has the bigger dick.... and as some of you said they should just make the games and stfu XD
brainderailment's Avatar
brainderailment at 03/09/2009 13:00
It's all relative.
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pedrovay2003 at 03/09/2009 13:15
I think BlackFreefall wins. I love how Sony and Microsoft are constantly bickering while the guys over at Nintendo are sitting back and laughing their asses off.

As far as Microsoft's comments, it's Microsoft. They get butthurt whenever something good his happening to anyone but them.
Cadtalfryn's Avatar
Cadtalfryn at 03/09/2009 14:35
Let the flame wars beginith!

My dad can beat your dad up!
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar
ArrestedDeveloper at 03/09/2009 16:17
Everyone I know owns 3 accounts on PSN, North American, Japanese and Pal.
Analitic's Avatar
Analitic at 03/09/2009 17:04
i have 3 PSN accounts and 3 Xbox accounts and my friends all have 2 no wait 3 and 3, no, i think i got this all wrong..wait...god i'm retarded
Paviel's Avatar
Paviel at 03/09/2009 17:04
@ pedrovay2003: "As far as Microsoft's comments, it's Microsoft. They get butthurt whenever something good his happening to anyone but them."

Are they seriously more butthurt about Sony than about Nintendo? When last I checked, better things were happening to Nintendo.
gooniegoogoo2's Avatar
gooniegoogoo2 at 03/10/2009 09:17
SONY's PSN #s are definitely inflated and not representing UNIQUE users....

I know I have 2 PS3s....and there are 4 subaccounts on each...

So just for me - 1 Person = 10 PSN Account logins (including my PSP).
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