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Remember how, yesterday, I said that patents were the bane of creativity? Well along comes Microsoft to prove me right! The Xbox 360 platform holder has been assigned a patent giving it exclusive rights to squad-based shooters that feature a drop-in/drop-out co-op mechanics. Fortunately, this does not extend to seamless co-op across the board, but if your game is a squad-based shooter and you want to offer this kind of dynamic, then you owe Microsoft some money.

I didn't even realize you could patent specific variations of existing ideas, but that just goes to show how screwed up the patent system is. Does this mean one could also obtain individual patents for this kind of co-op within every single genre? Capcom should snap up the fighting game patent, and I'm sure Konami would like to have its own co-op stealth patent. 

The patent was originally filed in 2002 but was approved last week. It was originally for the first Xbox but, as you can see, Epic Games made good use of it for Gears of War. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to patent masturbating after painting one's hands blue.








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LOLFONDU's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 13:41
LOLFONDU
Fuck patents.
Arsenic13's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 13:43
Arsenic13
Thats a sketch of Brute Force btw. Sequel confirmed?
Drachula64's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 13:45
Drachula64
This is bad, but not as bad as when Paris Hilton patented "That's Hot." How the fuck do you patent words!?
LOLFONDU's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 13:47
LOLFONDU
While we're at it, lets just patent video games so we don't have any competition.
CocoJambo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 13:47
CocoJambo
That's it, I'm voting for the Pirate Party.
SnakeDude4Life's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 13:51
SnakeDude4Life
You're Fired.™

Co-op.™

That's it, I'm voting for the Pirate Party.™
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 13:52
Holyetheline
I hope that we don't see any more of these... Patents are scary.
wanderingpixel's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 13:54
wanderingpixel
I'm going to patent the english language.
Havoc Fang's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 13:54
Havoc Fang
*patents video game based third person shooters set in a city involving crime*
HiddenAHB's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 13:57
HiddenAHB
Are you mocking the US patent system!?
KILL THE BRITISH FAGGOT!!

PS: I'm not american but i admit the superiority of the greatest nation of the world.

[/sarcasm]
phantomile's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 13:57
phantomile
This is starting to get ridiculous. This had better not become a trend, or the gaming industry is going to die.
BlackSunEmpire's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 13:57
BlackSunEmpire
Im patenting the letter x followed by the letter b. Pay up microsoft.
Krow's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:00
Krow
Good Lord. I had no idea just how low the quality level of front page comments had sunk this year.

On an unrelated note, thanks for cranking out articles Jim. You're one part of a big picture that keeps me coming back to Destructoid.
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:02
Vanilla Gorilla
I patent everything my brain can think of.
highlatency's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:03
highlatency
I wish people would get there chubby hands out of the 'fuck other company's and ruin gamer experiences to get money' jar and go back to the good old days of making games for people/enjoyment and not an exclusive area in the jar.
Onlineatron's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:05
Onlineatron
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth....

Soooo does this mean Sony can't use co-op squad stuff or can they pay like others?

Couls a loophole be just don't call it 'squad based'... whare the specifics?
Onlineatron's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:06
Onlineatron
* what are
GuitarAtomik's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:14
GuitarAtomik
Yeah. That's pretty stupid. You really should be able to patent that.
ME4Twaffle's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:15
ME4Twaffle
A reform to the patent system seems to be necessary, with a review of all current patents.
seamonkey420's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:16
seamonkey420
wow, these kind of patents really stiffle innovation.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:29
Chris Carter
I'm not 100% keen on patents. Couldn't Ubisoft just develop something in the UK, or whatnot, and it not be subject to US law? Are patent's binding worldwide!? USA! USA! USA!
Genius's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:32
Genius
What I find funny about this thread is nobody is crying for Microsofts head over such a stupid move by them. Now if only Sony had done this, everybody in here would be screaming bloody murder regardless if it affects them or not. Its hilarious how lopsided this site is. Jim doesnt even take the chance to skewer this absurd move by Miscrosoft. Its pretty ridiculous that he passes up that opportunity when he doesn't miss a beat when its time to bash Sony for being confident in their product.
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:37
DeusPayne
I wonder if I could patent the phrase "Patent Pending". I'd make a mint.
OPTIMUS PRIME's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:39
OPTIMUS PRIME
OK, before you all go crazy, the reason MS patents things like this is to ensure they don't get sued later. They generally are not looking to do anything than cover their asses so that someone else can't patent it and try to sue them. Most major corporations have to do this nowadays. Geesh. Yes, the patent system is F-ed up but MS is just trying to cover their ass in this instance.

Jim - before you make outrageous claims you should know what you are talking about first.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:41
Sexualchocolate
Well said Genius, well said.

The patent system is fucked up, but it's also Microsofts best friend. Fucked up systems that go against fair competition are MS's bag, baby.
SamBasinger's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:42
SamBasinger
Hey, Genius, you fuckin kidding me? I'm pretty sure the article is about how ridiculous it is for Microsoft to patent that.
Klempky's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:44
Klempky
@Genius: We're a biiit busy being astounded by the phenomenal amount of bullshit involved in this to bash companies. :U
ChainThrow's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:45
ChainThrow
This is rather disgusting. But anti-competitive practises are Microsoft's bread and butter, and it's silly for anyone to ever forget that.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:45
Black Nexus
That's just ridicoulous.
Br0th3rGr1mm's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 14:55
Br0th3rGr1mm
A few patents I just submitted:

Applying mustard to a hot dog.
Putting salt on popcorn.
Putting ice in your tea (take THAT, Jim!)
Waiting on the sidewalk for a bus.

I've got more, but those should get me by until Christmas...
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 15:13
Sharpless
Wait, what?
Peteru's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 15:38
Peteru
Reasonable longevity for patents in IT is IMO about 12-24 months. This would be a guaranteed headstart given by the state to some innovator for inventing something new and sharing it with the country and world (in 12-24 months anyone can use it). Such a privilige would have some sense in it.
(ofcourse, patent office would have to issue patents in IT in a matter of weeks not years for this to work)

Right now, in IT (and to lesser, but still way to big extent in other areas) patent is permanent monopoly. Before it expires, invention is already a generation (or generations!) behind the curve, already meaningless from commercial viewpoint.
JLanphear's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 16:10
JLanphear
*facepalm* lolwut?
zgerhard's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 16:27
zgerhard
idk if it was mentioned yet or not, but there is a patent for that thing that NFS: underground 2 uses or any game that has an arrow pointing towards your objective.

Game Informer ran a lil ditty on game patents a while back... it's surprising what mechanics have been patented. It's pretty ridic
ikiryou's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 16:37
ikiryou
This just in: I just patented sarcasm, Facepalms and breasts.
Nerdy Suit's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 16:55
Nerdy Suit
EVERYONE RELAX.

I guarantee this patent will never hold up in court. It's the equivalent to saying that your song is protected. No one can copy a Boyz II Men (old school FTW!) song without their permission, but you can make a song with similar R&B elements that include talking about love and even similar beats because they're typical for that genre of music. This will be protected under the same law...thus, Microsoft won't be able to hold this up in court.
Mattchewie's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 17:27
Mattchewie
Ah yes...patents....how do I hate thee.
Johnny Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 17:32
Johnny Justice
Is it too late to patent excessive capitalism?
aZZmodan's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 18:10
aZZmodan
The FAIL.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 18:12
Chris Carter
@Nerdy
Since you seem to be somewhat versed in patents, do you know the answer to my question above?
Leathersoup's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 19:09
Leathersoup
Patenting something simply to cover your ass doesn't make sense. If someone down the road patents something that you've already done the patent doesn't apply to you and as such you can simply claim prior art.
ration's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/21/2009 23:04
ration
Why doesn't Microsoft just patent piracy, that'll solve that pesky problem
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 00:23
Chronic Logic
I'm going to patent the idea of PATENTING!
ChaosTeaCup's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 03:54
ChaosTeaCup
Excellent. Seeing as I love squad based shooters, and I love my Xbox. I've got no complaints... ;0)
hjd uk's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 09:21
hjd uk
Im going to patent patenting ideas.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 09:29
Elsa
Ridiculous! The patent system is so f'd up!
Nerdy Suit's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/22/2009 15:16
Nerdy Suit
@Magnalon

Sorry for not responding earlier. I'm not a patent attorney, but I've taken enough business courses to understand patents to a certain extent and enough to know that Microsoft would most likely not win any suit they would impose on someone with this patent. The loop holes in this type of patent are just too large.

As far as the UK question, if I remember correctly, the patent is only valid in the country that the patent is registered in since each county has it's own patent laws. So a U.S. patent is only valid in the U.S. However, any half-way intelligent company, especially one as big and successful as Microsoft, will patent something in multiple countries. So if Microsoft patented something in the U.S, I'm sure they patented it in the U.K, Japan, Germany, etc, etc.

But again, don't worry about it. I'd bet my balls that Microsoft would never win a suit on this patent against a company like Ubisoft. The only question is whether Microsoft would sue a small company over a patent like this, knowing they won't win but knowing that their money to support the lawsuit is more than that of the small company who will eventually give in because they can't financially support their legal battle.

There's more ways to win in court than actually "winning" the case.
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