9:20 PM on 10.13.2008
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Last week we found out that the new Xbox Experience will to require 128 MB of storage space. Not bad, except for all of the people that own the Arcade/Core Xbox 360s who typically only have the 256MB memory card that comes with the system. Microsoft feels their pain and have offered up a solution for Arcade owners. Anyone that owns an Arcade/Core unit just has to enter their unit’s serial number at this Web site. From there, Arcade owners will be given the option of picking between a free 512 MB memory card or a refurbished 20GB hard drive for $19.99 after their Xbox 360 has been checked to see if their unit is legible for the offer. This is only good for Arcade/Core units, so don't bother trying to put in your Pro/Elite serial numbers at the site. Free anything is never a bad thing and $20 for a 20GB hard drive is a great deal. Thumbs up monkey approves of this offer, how about you? [Via Kombo -- Thanks, Buck F1tches]
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Aren't these systems only like 200 bucks or something now? Wouldn't that be only like 220 for a pretty much fully-functional system?
If this is true, then Xbox may have just sold itself to me.
i still wish MS would just do the sensible thing and make harddrives required, though this is a step in the right direction. Seriously how much does it cost to refurbish a 20 gig harddrive? Hell how much are they to make?
Gotta give them props for this, to be honest. Not only was this a really quick response to this problem, but it's coming out of their own pocket, realizing that they fucked up and trying to rectify the situation and do right by their customers.
Nintendo, on the other hand, has been promising everything and delivering nothing.
Really, the only one that had this issue right from the start is Sony (if only they'd just make the damn thing more affordable now instead of just upgrading it and leaving the price).
Wait, core owners can buy hard drives? I thought the core and arcade systems were incompatible with hard drives. In the past, I've always tried to keep the core owners in mind when screaming for hard drive required games, but fuck that.
@whaisdelicious:
Another good thing about Sony is they allow non-proprietary hard drives for the PS3, so even the people who got 20gig PS3s at launch and are running out of room have a relatively cheap solution.
Candy is delicious.
I second whatisdelicious. If someone told me this a year ago I would not have believed Microsoft was not screwing the consumer but with their recent behavior Microsoft (Xbox Division) has impressed the hell out of me in the past months.
!props++
I tried the serial to my old Arcade machine and it said I already had everything necessary
I wanted a free memory card too :(
Man, now if only they lowered the prices for the rest of us...
@whatisdelicious
While I commend MS for extending some help, they really had no other choice in the matter. Is the 'experience' gonna be a required download to be on live? Can you imagine them forcing millions of people to upgrade their systems to run a new interface?
On top of that, again, yes, this is a great deal that is coming out of their pockets so to speak, but don't act like they haven't been raping customers from the start with that extremely overpriced proprietary HD. I am sure they have a little expendable cash in that specific department.
thanks for nothing microsoft.
Chile is not in the list. But microsoft officially launched and support xbox 360 here. >:(
So they're going to lower the price of the Pro to $220 to compete with the Arcade, which is now basically the same machine, at that price?
"From their"
Uh ... From their what? Their != There.
Anyway, deathxrebirth is right. Not too long ago, a laptop hard drive from NewEgg was $80 as opposed to Microsoft's $129 for the same capacity. I don't remember what size that was, though.
Personally, I think that Microsoft should have gone a step farther and gave users a voucher towards a purchase of the XB360 hard drive of their choice. I don't know how much a voucher would need to be to get a refurbished 20 GB drive to $20, but I think that a lot of people would have appreciated the ability to use that as an excuse to get a larger hard drive.
@whaisdelicious:
Your right on the money, I can't believe how well they are reacting on this situation, if only their OS department would do the same... maybe give advanced users deeper and more detailed configurations like we've been asking for...
...sorry, i'm a computer repair guy, so I hate Microsoft by default!
I hate thumbs up monkey.
I have a 20gb hard drive but still its nice to see a company that thinks of its costumers.
Thumbs up to Microsoft indeed..at least one game company is offering a storage solution
So does Microsoft somehow know that I've got a HDD attached to my box? Cuz mine's a core system (I bought a 20GB drive at a later time, but it tells me that I've already got everything I need. Darn it, I wanted that free memory card.
@Swizzler:
Their 360 department doesn't dominate the console industry though. They wouldn't be offering this deal if they did. I mean, just look how many price cuts and cheap electronics Nintendo is offering for the Wii ;)
Freaken sweet nice one MS
Now if only they offered a cheaper solution for those of us with 20 gig drives to upgrade to the 60 or 120. THEN I'll be impressed.
Thanks Microsoft! Your my best friend.
not mentioned in offer: hidden shipping costs, handling, postal insurance, etc. not covered by micro$soft. i refuse to believe that MS is doing something that will take money OUT of their pockets and save it in consumers wallets
@ John B
You got me curious. Currently the Xbox 360 120GBHD retails for $149.99. There are at least 5 laptop 120GBHD's at about $50 on newegg right now. Plus quite a few 120-200GB external drives at about $60 each.
I know this is an old argument, but I still find it funny that everyone is saying how "generous" MS is being here...
@Kyousuke Nanbu
Why is it your 5th? You are happy about this?
Anyway... has the arcade ever been offered without the memory card? It could be that the core and only arcade versions that 'didn't' come with a memory card are eligible.
I don't recall if the initial ones shipped with one or not.
Eh, I don't know anybody who owns an Arcade system anyway...
Definitely a good recovery on Microsoft's part, although I really don't understand why the 360 was ever sold without a hard drive. I mean, wasn't online and downloadable content the big draw in the first place? I can see them wanting to offer a cheaper solution, but imo a 360 without a hdd is a crippled system. When I worked at a game store last holiday all of the staff discouraged people from buying the arcade bundle and always pushed the premium one for that same reason.
Here's some questions:
Does the new layout totally erase the old layout? How much space does the current XBL layout take up?, and is it more or less than the new layout? Begging the question, will more space be freed up on my 20gb HDD after I install the new XBL experience?
So it's essentially a $220 Pro system?
Hot damn, They must have dropped the price of production significantly to make this console as inexpensive as it is, even compared to the wii.
Note to Microsoft: $30 memory cards are now up in the gigabytes, let alone $50 (MSRP) for 512MB.
Proprietary, low-volume manufacturing or not... making up for loss-leading or not... a memory card really shouldn't cost as much as a wireless controller.
Most of the Arcade/Core buyers who didn't buy an HDD don't have their 360 hooked up to Live, and therefore will never get prompted to download the new dashboard.
The players that are online have a HDD.
I think this will affect very few people. I expect more people will be taking advantage of the free memory from MS even though they already have a storage solution.
This is smart as shit.
I wish I could get a free memory card.
This seems like a great move to some (namely, Arcade owners), but if you just recently bought a Pro system, that's kind of a dick move, no?
Tried my numbers from the arcade in my bedroom, and it says I have the necessary hardware, which I don't. I have hooked my hard drive into the arcade once or twice but it is not a permanent solution. Has anyone tried to contact microsoft about this yet?
I saw this and thought it was some elaborate joke. Just ordered my HDD for the arcade and I'm well pleased. Can't believe microsoft want to do something good for their customers, I can only assume the entire department in charge of this is high.
now if only they could start offering systems that dont die.
I'm glad this is happy time for everyone else, but I'm consistantly more and more pissed by these things. I bought my 360 a few years ago with a 20gb HDD. Now they come with a standard 60gb HDD and it will cost me another arm and a leg to upgrade. Why is it that the late comers and cheap ones are the people treated well, yet the pro buyers from back "in the day" are screwed over with insufficient hdd's and no cheap solution.
I NEED A BIT OF ADVICE!!!
my 360 RROD on me,it's a launch system and the warranty has been voided(added a whisper fan) so i need to buy a new rig
should i just get the arcade system or get the one above that one? i have a 1080p plasma and i've already got the component cables. i'm thinking the only reason to get the $299 360 is for the hdmi output.
is there any other reason to get the $299 360 besides hdmi or should i just go with the arcade. i already have my old hard drive to throw into the arcade one.
any opinions would be great..THANKS
Arcade people get free and cheap stuff, but the ones who bought real systems don't get anything? That's pretty lame. Yeah I might be greedy, but I want free crap too. Where's the equality?!
@ poonster
Though you have technically voided your warranty MS never seem to bother to check seeing as they get inundated with so many RODDed consoles. A mate of mine had the same problem (he was a pillock for buying a whisper fan anyway as are you but I'll let you off) but tried contacting MS anyway. He ended up with a replacement.
Basically put if you don't mention it they don't seem to notice, so you may as well give claiming one a go.
@LsTr_Of_SmG
thanks for the info but i also did a few other mods like custom paint and made the fan 12v so i'm pretty sure they would notice the paint job right away.
thanks for trying to help, i'll come to a decision just before Gears 2 comes out,until then i'll be putting my PS3 through a good workout,it's not getting alot of use since i bought it a few months ago.
Glad MS is looking out for us
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