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Microsoft: Kinect is exactly like Mario Bros. photo

Using the spoken word to communicate what makes a Kinect game more fun than a non-Kinect game is an uphill battle. For one, it's not terribly easy to find someone in the gaming press that likes Kinect all that much, and if you do, they may not have more to say beyond "Movearaoundalot! Movearound! Goooooood!"

Microsoft's Kudo Tsunoda has an interesting approach on to explaining what makes Kinect so great:

If you think about a game like Mario Bros., would you say Mario Bros. is a core or casual game? That's exactly what we're doing with the Kinect products. ...But if you look at River Rush, from Kinect Adventures, that in a lot of ways is like a platformer game. It's all the same things you see in platformer games. The way you summed up how you would feel about Mario Bros. is exactly the way we look at the Kinect games.

So Kinect games feel exactly like Mario Bros., Mr. Tsunoda? Exactly? That's totally weird, because most of the games I've seen for the thing look more like Wii Fit than anything else. Not that there is anything wrong with that -- I'm just saying that if you're admitting that your games are exactly like your competition's games, you might as well make sense while you're doing it.

Microsoft likens Kinect experience, games to Super Mario Bros. [GoNintendo via Videogamer]








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eddiemos's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 22:34
eddiemos
Ok, I'm convinced.
Healerdoc's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 22:38
Healerdoc
Now the thought of someone doing the Mario in front of a kinect pops into my mind, as well as an achievement that states "Rip Off!" when you do the same moves.
Toadofsky's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 22:41
Toadofsky
Do the MARIO!!

So really, does this in a sense confirm Microsoft ripped off Nintendo?
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 22:42
hpv
Kinect Adventures is a lot like the extremely crappy half the EyeToy library.
KnuxSonic's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 22:43
KnuxSonic
Let's make a deal.

If, in 10 years, "River Rush" is a household name, spawned tons of sequels, make millions, has a movie deal and Mario is a distant memory... I will eat entire left foot whole, in one bite.
Electro Lemon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 22:46
Electro Lemon
"Do The Mario" game confirmed, you guys. 2011!
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 22:48
Mr Andy Dixon
He's got a great point, when you think about it: Kinect looks lame, which is exactly what we'd all say about the original Super Mario Bros. if it were released today.
JohnMigle's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 22:51
JohnMigle
This is too funny. Mario and Kinect are exactly opposite. And actually the eye toy is a closer example to Kinect than anything else.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 22:54
manasteel88
Kinect Adventures actually looked like a fun human tetris/manic Time Trial game. Is it on Mario's level of gaming, to you and I, no. To a 7 year old, probably. To you and I entertaining a 7 year old, definitely.

Problem is if you launch a peripheral, you need something to buy it for. Kudo failed to do that this year. Harmonix fortunately picked up the slack.
Maxwell Roahrig's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 22:56
Maxwell Roahrig
And we're still calling certain games "core" and "casual"? A game's a game's a game, folks.

Also, that Kudo Tsunoda dude always looks like he's been doing blow.
benjaminajacobs's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 22:58
benjaminajacobs
This just made me realize... Kinect is exactly like that shitty old kid's gameshow Nick Arcade. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seAyeYBNijA&feature=related
Woopman's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 23:02
Woopman
Yeah, riiiight.

I'll admit it's true when Super River Rush Galaxy 2 becomes the best rated game of all time. >.<
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 23:04
The Silent Protagonist
@hpv - I wasn't aware there was a good half to the EyeToy library

Anyway, if you really wanted to say it was like Super Mario Bros, this stuff would have come as a pack-in at launch.

Funny that no one tried to make a direct copycat of Mario back then, either, mostly because games came out at a snail's pace and people played games into the ground in between releases. People would get wise to it rather fast.

But just because games come out faster now doesn't mean people don't get wise to it. Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort are rather well-known, I'd say, and Wii Sports helped illustrate the motion control standard from the start - Kinect is not a standard and four years into 360's life is too late to change that.
KINGof210's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 23:04
KINGof210


I GET IT NOW!!!
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 23:16
pokota
It's almost as if employees of a company say positive things about their products because they want them to sell.
BalloonFighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 23:17
BalloonFighter
Oh. You could have saved a little confusion if you just said that from the start baby.
Stephen De Carlo's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 23:17
Stephen De Carlo
Let the River Rush Galaxy hype begin!
Oishidesu's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 23:25
Oishidesu
@manasteel88
You want human tetris? Go to Japan. In fact, whenever you see a crazy Kinect game, think about going to Japan. Japan has the weirdest games/activities ever, I kid you not.
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 23:42
hpv
The Silent Protagonist: The other half (in reality much less than half) isn't good, they're just not extremely crappy. I'd say they're somewhere between crappy and very crappy if I had to narrow it down with one or two titles that might have been good if they had higher production values, better hardware, and lower price points.

Kinect doesn't seem to be fixing any of those issues. The games they have shown look terrible, the price is about 5 times more than I'd be willing to pay for such a thing, and I'm not even close to convinced that the hardware is up to the task. Even if the capture works as Microsoft would have us believe I can't see how 30fps is going to deliver responsive control, especially when the input is the movement of your body, something that you literally don't think about and will be that much more noticeable when the on screen action lags behind.
LBDNytetrayn's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/24/2010 23:49
LBDNytetrayn
I thought he was trying to say that their mindset and approaching the games were like making Super Mario Bros., a game that's accessible but still all-around fun.
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 00:08
Electrium
I've heard bullshit before, but REALLY?
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 00:10
pedrovay2003
I can see what he's saying, I suppose, but I'd still rather buy Super Mario Bros. than Kinect at this point. The gameplay isn't the same at all, and I still think it all boils down to holding a controller with buttons is better.

@mrandydixon

New Super Mario Bros. Wii is pretty much Super Mario Bros., and it never looked lame even for a second.

@benjaminajacobs

NICK ARCADE WAS FUCKING AWESOME YOU SWINE. :P
CAP's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 00:48
CAP
Brings to mind that guy who beat SMB using the dance mat. (and castlevania)
Electro Lemon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 01:41
Electro Lemon
You guys understand that he's not saying it will be as popular/successful/good as SMB, right?

...Right?
spenot's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 02:35
spenot
@The Silent Protagonist:
"Funny that no one tried to make a direct copycat of Mario back then"

They did. It's called The Great Giana Sisters. We played the hell out of it when we were kids on the Commodore 64, and haven't even heard of the NES (we didn't really have those in the Eastern Bloc). Needless to say, Nintendo sued their asses... then it got remake on the DS!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Giana_Sisters
EggmaniMN's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 03:20
EggmaniMN
If you would actually say right now that Super Mario Bros looks lame, you aren't a gamer.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 03:25
Sexualchocolate
Face, meet palm. "Oh Hai there mr Palm, how are you? You seem nice, we should be frein...... Ahhhh what are you doing? Stop hitting me!"
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 06:46
EdgyDude
@The Silent Protagonist:
"Funny that no one tried to make a direct copycat of Mario back then"

?

Guess you never heard of the Great Giana Sisters, huh?.
bickle's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 06:56
bickle
@The Silent Protagonist: We've been playing copycats of SMB ever since it came out. It's strange that you haven't noticed.
menacekop's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 06:57
menacekop
Garbage article, the author pulled words for the actual quote and rearranged them to create a more "controversial" title that would generate traffic and hits.

All they are doing is pointing out that Mario is a good example of a platformer that can be enjoyed by core and casual gamers, and they want to take the same approach with Kinect Adventures, nowhere in the quote does Microsoft ever actually say "Kinect is exactly like Mario".

I'm not saying I agree with their assessment of Kinect Adventures, I'm just pointing out that this article is a good example of some pretty lame journalism.
Chad Almasy's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 07:01
Chad Almasy
please do not compare your steaming pile of mediocrity to the godliness that is Mario, you microsoft jerk.
zod000's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 07:51
zod000
I just realized that I can recite the entire Super Mario Super Show theme from when I was a kid...I had sad that my brain chose to remember THIS and not actual important things.
D-503's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 08:26
D-503
Microsoft has convinced me to buy a wii
Neo Gio's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 08:46
Neo Gio
My brain just exploded from that explanation...
yenner's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 12:28
yenner
I'm actually kinda pissed they think kinect and SMB are on the same level. Here's product that has a lot to prove and hasn't shown the public a whole lot of promise. Yet the company decided to comare it to arguably the most iconic franchise in the industry? How can say it with a straight face?
masterninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/25/2010 13:51
masterninja
But the thing is you couldnt play a super mario bros game with just kinect even if nintendo made it for wii....

You cant sacrifice precision and say you put out a hardcore product...(no matter what spin you put on it.
smurfee mcgee's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/26/2010 00:50
smurfee mcgee
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
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