Wait, so you dont want that baby?

Above commenter is EPIC FAIL for random spam link

I saw a graph... Blu rayz had a bigger bar.

Now.. to start caring.

Just becuase Hd-DvD fails doesnt and never did mean that they would hop on the Blu-Ray train. Whereas mabey for the next system they make, if Blu-Ray does, in fact, win the Hd war, they may include a player, they have no reason to for the current system.

And since Hd-DvD isent completely dead yet, it would be foolish for Microsoft to immediatly hop on to Blu-Ray after HD-DvD died anyway, becuase it makes them look traderous and very "Me too me too"ish, and they don't want that.

Timeing is everything.

YEs M$ will have to embrace it eventually. BR add-ons for PC are going to start retailing for like $200...pretty cheap for a new format drive.

Completely committed to HD-DVD and not considering Blu-ray?
Yeah, right... either MS is outright lying or they are the greatest of fools.

Really, giving the option to consider Blu-ray, it would be foolish for MS not to consider blu-ray. Should HD-DVD fail, MS will have to either go with not Hi-def or go with Blu-ray, as the HDDVD players will no longer sell. Going with no hi-def format when their chief competator has one will only serve to hurt their sales; really, at that point, Blu-ray would only serve to help MS... really, if MS doesn't go Blu-ray after HD-DVD fails, it will hurt them and give a lot more strength to PS3 (as it will be the only console you can get a surviving format on)

And if they truly were committed to HD-DVD, then why not release a SKU with built in HD-DVD? As long as they offer a SKU without HDDVD, then they are still givign consumers a "choice". The only thing is, consumers like it when they can just have one machine instead of two; hence why their are many poeple who demand PS3 have Backwards compatibility when they can just have both a PS3 and a PS2... the way i see it, the only reason for MS not to offer such a SKU is because they are giving HD-DVD half hearted support

@ Monte

"The only thing is, consumers like it when they can just have one machine instead of two"

Yeah, and people probably like it more when they get to save money on a console by not having something in it they don't really want/need *cough*PSTriple*cough*

@ CelicaCrazed

"Please MS!! Just don't side with Blu-Ray and let this war be decided my product quality instead of marketing!!"

Fixed

on their ... sry loll

@Squeewupiwupi, product quality? What more do you want. Unless you want a new format to be created, product quality isn't going to change much. Just as much as they can afford and as much as the mainstream will adopt.

@vexed alex:

I've heard that too and it makes sense.

Let's read between the lines, here. The first statement was clearly true. Of course Microsoft would offer a Blu-Ray player, if that format became more dominant. That goes without saying. They, however, in retrospect, decided that they didn't want to sound like they were losing faith in Blu-Ray, so they retracted. Microsoft has a pattern of jumping the gun and then backpeddling -- or being asked to backpeddle.

Anyway, if anyone can save HD-DVD from total oblivion, it's the greedy, controlling bastards at MS. Ultimately, I don't really care. I think HD-DVD is the better technology, but Blu-Ray isn't exactly crap, either.

@ Sir Ireland

Bigger =/= better. HD-DVD is far more consumer friendly, costing less, being completely region free(you can buy a movie that's only on Blu-Ray in America on HD-DVD from another country and it will play fine in your player), and COMBO DVD/HD-DVD discs that let you buy your movie now to work on your non-HD setup and then not have to buy another disc when you finally upgrade to HD

I doubt it, HD-DVD is dead.
If Microsoft wants to stay in the game, they will switch.

(Winks) Suuure microsoft, I'll play my NOT blu-rays on my NOT 360

i hope they won't bring it out... it would cost me way to much money... the HD-DVD-drive is not really inticing... but a bluray one just might be...

allthough I should probably just wait untill I get a PS3 with the blurayp...

"Also, You'll be hard pressed to find an 1080 HD movie that will merit even the 15gb of a single layer HD-DVD"

Oh my god.

@ brainderailment

Sorry, that was supposed to read "merit more than the 15GB" my bad

1) How many stand alone Blu-Ray players are selling compared to HD-DVD?
2) How many PS3 owners actually intend to use the Blu-Ray drive for movies?

We all know that Sony LOVES to tell everyone shipping numbers of their consoles rather than the consoles sold, so I can't help but think that the Sony is using the 'We have XXX number of Blu-Ray players in place, therefore HD-DVD loses', despite that perhaps only a fraction of PS3 owners ever intend to use the Blu-Ray drive. It's like the Wii, just because 10 million people bought the thing hasn't meant much when decent third party games release.

If HD-DVD really wants to stay in the running, I think they need to start doing surveys out the wazoo showing that PS3 owner != Blu-Ray movie purchaser.

@MrHaVoC

Would you like a hug?

@MrHaVoC

The irony of your response is so thick, I'm not certain even a Ginsu knife could cut it.

I was expecting Captain Obvious to announce that.

@Squeewupiwupi
I really only see the region-free as the true advantage of HDDVD... i mean, yes HDDVD is a cheaper, but if you look at Price per GB Blu-ray gives you more for your money; so in a sense Blu-ray is cheaper. As for DVD-HDDVD combo dicks for those who do not have HDTV yet, this is only useful in the short-run... looking into the future, such a feature will end up being useless as HDTV's become more common... good idea for today, but not so much for tomorrow.

One thing poeple think about when they look at the formats is not what we need now but what we are gonna need for the future... after all, the longer the format last, the longer we can go without having to move to a new format. The new format is gonna be used for everything that DVD's are currently used for... in many cases, the more crap a consumer can fit on a single disk the better... think back to when you had to use CD's... i remember having tons of CD's worth of crap, it felt great when i was finally able to burn DVD's and able to get more stuff on one disk. really, i think disk size is the main concern for most poeple looking at the new formats and is the reason why Blu-ray is getting more support now.

Grant, the region-free is porbably the only really great thing that HDDVD has that Blu-ray doesn't... but that won't make it a winning format... afterall, it's the movies studios who will end up pushing which format wins, and they don't care about importing and exporting cross region; if they want their movies sold in another country they will just make a version for that country and send it their themselves instead of having consumers order imports. i imagine that the poeple who really need regional-free disks are in the minority... i know a few poeple who are in to importing lots of stuff, but i know a hell of a lot more that don't

@Boolean
I think Wikipedia has all the info on players sold and what not... i'd have to double check, but i think they may even separate stand alone blu-ray players and PS3's

Yes it's true, just because someone bought a PS3 doesn't mean that they are buying Blu-ray movies... however, one thing that is easy to assume is that their is a very high chance that they eventually will start buying them; they are future customers. Once HDTV's become more common place, and HD movies become cheaper to buy, those PS3 owners who never intended to use their console as a player will very likely start using them... What do you think easier, convincing poeple to buy HD movies, or convincing them to buy HD player and THEN HD movies... really, the studios consider the PS3 owners all as potential customers and will aim to push for them... Really, the arguement that "PS3 owner =! blu-ray consumer" would fall on deaf ears since the studios will still them all as potential consumers (if they aren't now, they will be; is more or less their line of thinking)... Poeple already have blu-ray players so let's give them blu-ray movies... thinking about it, considering that PS3 is hurt more by it's poor library than it's price; had the 360 included HDDVD from the start (same price as PS3 but better library), HDDVD might be winning at this point

furthermore, the studios are also looking at the sales of Blu-ray movies vs HD-DVD movies... even if their are PS3 owners that aren't buying blu-ray, the fact is that their ARE poeple buying them. And i think Blu-ray was doing better when it came to sales of Blu-ray movies

@MrHaVoC

read this

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/tech-news/?p=1163

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/tech-news/?p=1189

so you were saying again about sony for malecious software ??? lolll


next time shut the fuck up little fanboy

:(.