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Microsoft is aware of ODST unreadable disc issues photo

Microsoft has responded to the Halo: ODST disc-reading issues. In a statement given to Eurogamer, the hardware publisher as well as Halo-keeper said that it was aware people were having problems and were investigating the issue. Microsoft also noted that it wasn’t a widespread issue, which is sure make those who are experiencing the “Unreadable Disc” problem very, very happy people.

“We are aware of a very small number of people who are reporting they can’t play the game,” said a Microsoft representative. "We are looking into it, but at this point it doesn't appear to be a widespread issue."

To get you caught up with this gripping story: people are experiencing problems with their ODST discs. During stress times, like loading Chapters, the game tosses up an “Unreadable Disc” screen, thus eliminating the opportunity to play the game. As we last checked, Bungie is still collecting data, perhaps attempting to figure out and then fix whatever is causing the problem. Some folks in the lengthy thread on the game’s official message board attribute the issue to older disc drives, others think it has something to do with the hard drive.

Just for fun, we’ll ask again: can you still play ODST?







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Kif 's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 04:10
Kif
I can play it, horrendous lag and all.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 04:46
Chronic Logic
Keep those receipts folks!
Nogarda's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 04:49
Nogarda
It needs to be equally aware of its lack of matchmaking for firefight, and get on that ASAP. Seriously if they claim to of finished this back at E3 they had all that time to add it but now they are too busy working on Halo Reach to care I'd assume.
ender_x's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 05:02
ender_x
[cue self righteous (console owner) here]
TheToiletDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 05:12
TheToiletDuck
Does this mean we need to start putting our 360's upside down?
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 05:15
Sexualchocolate
This is just what happens when you make a game for a greedy evil corporation. Quality goes out of the window because you simply want to milk the franchise and get a game finished as soon as possible, no to get it released, but so that you can work on the next cash cow.

Microsoft and Bungie: leading the way in raping your wallet, slowly but surely decreasing the quality all while raising the price.

I wouldn't be surprised if Bungie have been to MS to say "Hey, we've got some issues with ODST, could do with some more time."

MS: Uh, no. You've got to get cracking with Reach! - Fuck it, you saw how we dealt with RRoD, just release the borked version, the stupid sheeple will still buy ti, and will still make out like it's the best thing since sliced bread!

Bungie: Yes boss, whatever you say boss.
Czech Monster's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 05:34
Czech Monster
@Sexualchocolate

I had to exchange my Killzone 2 disc twice. Shot happens, go troll some PS3 forums for a change.
Tarvu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 05:41
Tarvu
Though this isn't anywhere near the horrendous cock-up with Need for Speed: Shift.

I can play it fine, though not being able to play from hard drive when not connected to XBL sucks.
Czech Monster's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 05:54
Czech Monster
Remember,

anyone but Bungie and Microsoft is allowed glitches. But God help us if 3 out of 2 million discs don't work properly.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 05:58
Volomon
@Czech Monster 3 out of 2 million isn't bad however I've heard the figure is almost 30%. Don't be blinded by fanboyism. When every gaming website on the internet pops up with Killzone 2 disc error, I'd take it seriously. Just like I would take every website on the internet popping up with ODST read error news seriously as well. Guess what Killzone 2 didn't have any major disc read error. 30% of 3 million is almost 900,000 not 3.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 06:04
Volomon
@Czech Monster Also even though Sexual Chocolate is being gratuitous, he is right. This is what happens when you bid off parts of your console to different manufactures at the lowest price you get a RROD and now people making games have to take into account all the SKUs, all the different DVD drives all the different HDD. All because Microsoft had to do their console at the cheapest possible price. Now their paying for it.

For instance here's a list of all the different DVD drives the Xbox360 has had over it's life time.

http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/Xbox_360_DVD_Drive_Comparison.htm
SniperXan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 06:10
SniperXan
My copy won't play,

because it's still at the store. I will NOT pay $70cad for a standalone expansion pack. (especially since I already own all the Halo 3 map packs)
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 06:20
Jon B
@SexualChocolate
You see, you would actually be a good contributer if it weren't for the fact that you spam your pro-Sony trolling here... because although you're being a bit trollworthy with your above statements, you are correct in this case.

Yes, chances are that this game was quickly made and shipped to ride the WHAOMG HALO REACH BETA bandwagon, I personally didn't enjoy it and finished it on Legendary in one sitting - it's shamefully short.
Yes, for the price it's not worth it - most of us already own Halo 3's multiplayer and all the maps.
And yes, how the fuck do you get a party going for Firefight? Halo 3's matchmaking was fantastic, what the fuck is this replacement?
vecha's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 06:36
vecha
@sexualChocolate(or anyone else for that matter).

How is it milking when there have only been four games?

I know quite a few other franchises that are way past the four game mark.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 06:41
Chronic Logic
@SexualChocolate

Just when I thought you were starting to control your inner troll and become decent, you jump off the wagon and get drunk on fanboyism. So sad.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 06:44
Sexualchocolate
@Vecha - I'm talking FUTURE milking. It's not about the game count, it's about the trade off between creative development and financial development. Do they want to make a great game? or do they want to make a load of cash? It's a balance that a lot of devs affiliated with Microshaft seem to get wrong.

Making Reach while ODST isn't even finished is clearly not trying to make the game as good as they can. Or is it OK to leave an overpriced expansion pack unfinished to work on the next overpriced expansion pack??

Those bitching about "trolling" fuck off. Just because a comment is pro-one console or anti-another doesn't make it any less valid.

These problems are down to...

1) MS making the 360 as cheap as possible
2) Bungie being spread too thinly across multiple games (generic games at that, itterations of the same generic sci-fi FPS)

Killzone guy - that's seriously unlucky mate, I've never heard of Killzone disc problems. Weird.
Ultramonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 07:11
Ultramonkey
@Sexualchocolate: Are Squeenix not making FFXIV while FFXIII is not finished? Does that mean they won't be as good as previous titles?
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 07:11
Chronic Logic
Making two Halo games at the same time means that Bungie is being spread too thinly? I don't see the problem with that. Unless we're talking about them making three or four games at the same time, but this is not the case. As for the unreadable discs, it seems only a minority of people are experiencing that problem. So I wouldn't condemn Bungie and Microsoft for a problem affecting a small amount of people. As for Halo being generic, you're just talking out of your ass. You'd have to admit Halo was pretty unique back then. The gameplay and story was awesome. Each Halo game Bungie made turned into gold. As long as the gameplay is good, why worry about genericness? The same could be said for any cliched JRPGs, the story and setting might be just like any other JRPGs with a different coat of paint, but as long as the game was fun, did it really matter if it was generic?
GamesAreArt's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 07:13
GamesAreArt
"Just for fun, we’ll ask again: can you still play ODST?"

No, I dont have a 360. *snickers*
Doos's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 07:18
Doos
@ Volomon

The reason you see this on so many sites is because it's a story relating to 'Halo'.

Anything Halo related is bound to get some press, bad or good and is also near guaranteed to get people clicking on it. Whether you're a fan of the game or not.

Also, that 30% number as far as I can tell was gathered from Joystiq with their on site survey.

I'm not going to make a guess at how accurate or inaccurate that survey is/isn't, but it should definitely be taken with a very large grain of salt.

Just for perspectives sake, do a search of 'game breaking glitch' on google, and you'll get a nice variety of exclusives and multiplat games alike all with their very own glitches. Which is entirely too common.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with what anyone is saying about this particular glitch, I'm just saying, Perspective, people.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 07:24
Sexualchocolate
@Ultramonkey - I wouldn't make any allowances for Squeenix either.

If Final Fantasy suffers because of a rush to get into the MMO one, i will be sorely disapointed. I will have no qualms with berating them too in that situation.

If a Killzone 2 expansion pack came out for £55 I certainly wouldn't buy it, if it didn't work in a large number of cases, i would certainly be saying similar things about Guerilla!

It's not trolling, it's simply stating an opinion. When a Sony exclusive fucks around like this and takes the piss i'll have the same view of them too!
Monte's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 07:33
Monte
@Ultramonkey
I'm not sure if that comparison works... I mean, i think Square-enix is a MUCH larger game developer and as such they have way more manpower which makes it easier for them to work on multiple projects at once without losing quality...
ZombiePlatypus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 07:38
ZombiePlatypus
I just beat the campaign last night, no problems at all the entire time.

On the other hand, my brothers can't play their disc, or mine, on their Xbox. Theirs gets the error while loading the first Buck mission as well as whenever they try to start up Firefight. It's pretty shitty.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 08:05
Xzyliac
@SexualChocolate
To be fair it's not even a development problem it's a manufacturing problem. Microsoft has used this manufacturer and had these problem before. And the game was finished a while ago (let's be fair here it is very much just a glorified Halo 3 mod, a kickass mod but a mod nonetheless) so I highly doubt it was a matter of rushed development.

It's just a shit happens moment. it happens a lot but this is Halo so it gets all this attention. Kinda like Paris Hilton and sex tapes. Like it's some huge and abnormal thing for someone to make a sex tape and it gets stolen and goes all over the place.
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 08:16
MechaMonkey
I'm one of the unfortunate few experiencing this error. Bungie's working on it, and are communicating with those experiencing the problem through their forum. Updates when available and all that jazz.

Oh well, there are problems with every software release in history. Gotta be someone, and this time it's me. There's no need for a pox upon Microsoft and Bungie's houses.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 08:17
Volomon
@Doos I understand what your attempting to get at (btw I did the search and oddly enough Fable 2 comes up, ironic right, another MS game), but a game glitch is a bit different than a manufacturing error. Glitches are understandable all games have some form of glitch in them it's impossible not to. The difference here is usually a company pumps out X (usually a few thousand) amount of copies to test, then they have to pass Q&A usually by multiple companies. So...you have to question how cheaply did they make this where it slipped through this deep?

Also I don't know of any in recent memory that potentially had 30% error. I'm sorry but I don't think it matter what game got screwed up this bad it would be all over the internet. Being Halo might make it worse ya maybe, but 30% is alot no matter what and ya I'm not 100% how valid it is but for the most part it could very well be.
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 08:25
Steel Brotha
And NFS SHift on the 360 is trying to access the PSN. Two game breaking glitches, one console, one month. WTF? And they say that cading fot eh PS3 is hard...
Doos's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 08:55
Doos
Volomon

Yeah, you're right.. this doesn't seem to be so much a glitch as it is a manufacturing flaw, somehow.

I remember something similar with GTA3 way back when certain PS2's wouldn't read the discs, and you had to (for whatever reason) put a piece of tape on the topside of the disc in order to make it play. Weird, yeah, but it worked.

I also remember another similar issue regarding certain games on the original Xbox not working with specific DVD drives.

Anywho.. 30% or not.. I'm pleased with my decision not to purchase this game, though this development had nothing to do with that decision.

I know a money grab when I see one.
wastedyears's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 10:03
wastedyears
Where is Jim and his 'Sony is ruining my life' post? Where is the header pic saying that Sony has screwed up yet again? Why hasn't he chimed in griping about this latest EPIC FAIL???

What's that? Sony didn't do this? Oh, well that expains why Jim isn't frothing at the mouth, screaming about the shoddy, overpriced hardware and or faulty software.

Ya know, for a second there, I thought Jim had the day off, or maybe that he had stopped being a schill, that maybe he had stumbled upon a little batch of integrity. Then I realized that it was yet another problem with Microsoft, and not Sony. So there really is no reason for him to freak out over this. No reason at all. My bad.
Kflame210's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 10:46
Kflame210
I dont own the game but my friend does and he says that he has stopped playing it because of that. He cant even beat the campaign because of it. On a different note, wasn't this game done for like 2-3 months? They didn't test for these kind of things?
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 10:57
fetusmilk
whats halo?
ViciousBoston's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 11:02
ViciousBoston
Is Microsoft a game company anymore? Can they publish a proper game with no hitches? I don't know what is so damn hard about this. I really don't. Sort your shit out Microsoft you're on a downward spiral this entire generation (aside the units sold numbers). Faulty hardware and software. Beautiful.
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 11:05
Shadowiii
Hey, let's play the "who milked their series" game!
Halo Series (from 2001):
Halo
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo Wars
Halo ODST
Halo Reach

God of War Series (From 2005)
God of War
God of War 2
God of War: Betrayal (cell phone game)
God of War: Chains of Olympus
God of War Collection
God of War 3

Whaa? The same number of games, in HALF the time? Milking series what? And everybody is going to pay $60 for a REMAKE of PS2 games that should technically be backwards compatible with the system (didn't Sony promise that when they released the PS3)? Oh, us poor Xbox-fags, getting screwed over!
And don't even get me started on Metal Gear. Were we talking about milking series until they were dead? I would have to say Sony's exclusives are milking it far more.

Also, bought ODST. I've never liked Halo, but I really, really liked ODST. Best Halo games since the first one, and the multiplayer disc makes it a good deal. Firefight is amazing. Have had no disc problems, but installed it to the HDD just to be sure. Still no problems, though I swear lag in Firefight is actually getting worse. Hmmm...
IV Backstab MC's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 11:14
IV Backstab MC
My odst disk works fine I love firefight and campaign is badass cept for those engineers really do brutes need extra shields!!!!!
LikeaRollingStone's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 11:19
LikeaRollingStone
@SexualChocolate - No you won't. You will say "Every one makes mistakes, even Sony".
If you hate the 360 so much, can't you just leave these posts alone. I know you're just expressing your opinion, but you opinion is biased. Sony can't make a mistake, but when the 360 slips up, you start bitching about how this only happens because they're cheap, and only people on welfare buys them.

On topic, why didn't Bungie find this bug while they were testing it? They said it's been completed since May (or June), plenty of time to erase majority of the bugs.
I can see Forza 3 having a problem too. It seems like every Microsoft Games Studio game has some sort of problem. Come on guys, stop making good games, with game breaking bugs!
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 11:51
Knivy
I kept getting that error with my old 360 while playing Mass Effect because the disc drive sucked. While it might be Bungie's fault (I dunno if it's happening to everyone affected at the same points to be called a bug), I'm still kinda inclined to believe it's the 360's crap disc drive and they're just not allowed to blame it on that since it isn't covered by the warranty like the red ring is.
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 11:54
Steel Brotha
@ Shadowiii
your comparing Halo, a FPS to God of War, an action game. It's easier to call Halo milked because very little changes to the gameplay mechanics. And let's face it there were other FPSs before Halo so it wasn't all that fresh. God of War is one of the few 3D Beat em up game series that's been successful and the gameplay has actually changed a decent amount.

And calling MGS a sony series that's been milked is just plain idiotic. The Metal Gear series started on the MSX. And every Metal Gear game has been significantly upgraded. People call Halo a milked series because what the f@ck else has Bungie been praised for? Remember ONI? When a company has only concentrated on one series for 9 years that's called milking man. Especially when their a third party developer.
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 12:00
Shadowiii
@Steel Brotha

Think about God of War. Is there any real difference between those games? Even the kill combos remain the same. They added a few new weapons and moves and...oh hey, that's what they've added to the Halo series! Silly me!
Don't get me wrong, I freaking love God of War (it's the reason I haven't gotten rid of my PS2 yet), but if you honestly think they've changed a whole lot between them, you've got another thing coming. Especially since Kratos' moves haven't changed since the FIRST GAME.
With Metal Gear, I'm referring to the fact there is the Substanance versions of every freaking game, so essentially they sell the same game twice. That is the very definition of milking. Between games is usually a decent change, but making a point to re-release every game with a very slightly improved version...well, you get my point.
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 12:02
Steel Brotha
" Shadowiii
Also, Halo ODST was supposed to be an expansion for $40. They bumped up the price $20 and added nothing because they knew that mass amount of people would by it. That`s another sign of milking a series. last time I checked God Of War 1&2 will be on the same disc for $40. And it`ll stay that way.
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 12:08
Steel Brotha
@ Shadowiii
"Metal Gear, I'm referring to the fact there is the Substanance versions of every freaking game"
there's only been a Subsistance version of MGS2 and MGS3. and MGS3 added MG 1&2 as well as online. Metal Gear Intergral was for those whose wanted MGS and the VR missions in one pack. There has ne no extra version of MGS4, MG or MG2. Now Gears of War getting a Game of the Year Edition without winning a game of the year award is milking a series.
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 12:32
Shadowiii
Halo was supposed to be an expansion when they were planning on releasing it with just ODST and firefight. They added the disc with $20 of DLC on it and bumped up the price. I'd have liked the option to pick what I bought, sure, but I feel the bump was justified. Have you played ODST? It's a solid package, especially for someone who didn't have all the maps.
You argue that Metal Gear Intergral is ok for the same reason I'm arguing ODST is worth it: it's for someone who wants both. I don't know how you can take one side and not the other. And there's a hidden version of MG1&2 on my Substance version of MGS3? I own it; it isn't on there. I think you are confusing it with the MGS collection that came out shortly after.
As for the GOTY Edition of Gears, it's the same as ODST. While I can't argue the GOTY legitimacy, you are getting $20 in maps and expansions, as well as Gears 2 for $40, which means you are getting Gears for $20, which is a good deal. I fail to see the problem here.
THE POINT IS Microsoft isn't the only people to milk their series. I'm pretty sure we can agree on that. What changes is fanboys of said series will violently argue it isn't milking, while others will argue the other direction. I still think ODST was a good deal, but again I didn't have the Halo 3 maps. If I did, yeah, it would have been overpriced. But don't go saying MS is milking its exclusives and Sony isn't. They are.
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 12:35
Shadowiii
Also, that is like the most convoluted post I've ever made. I can't wait to be misinterpreted, but I guess I brought that upon myself. :/
TechnicolorDewDrop's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/29/2009 15:56
TechnicolorDewDrop
@ UltraMonkey: Square Enix deeloping multiple games at once is different because there are multiple teams at Square Enix. Thus, they can make multiple games at once and still be good. Also, FFXIII has been in development for about 6 yrs and FFXIV for about 4 yrs. I dont expect a lack of quality in either.

@ Shadowiii: Every console milks at least one franchise. For microsoft, it's Halo. For nintendo it's Mario. For sony it's maybe God of War. Metal Gear isn't SONY milking it. It's KONAMI that are milking it. This is evident from the fact that MG has been on multiple platforms. I don't have to explain how badly Mario has been milked. Halo started being milked after 3. This is because all the worthwhile story has been told. All the other Halos released since then are just trying to tell us about the uninteresting parts of the Halo universe. God of War is somewhat, but not really being milked. GoW 1,2,COO, and 3 all contribute to Kratos' story, which is kinda interesting. I don't know much about Betrayal though. But GoW Collection is just giving those who didn't play the first two or those who are fans, a chance to experience it. It's not another installment. As for ODST, the "map pack disc" has about $30 worth of maps ($40 if you assume the new three maps would be $10) so the game is really $20-30 with $30 worth of maps that people have already payed for. Again, ODST's plot was pretty useless to the main plot of the first 3 halo games.
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